Waived players tracking thread

[DuckIII]

Signing D-Rose is the next embarrassment.

“Hey don’t look over here . . . Look over there!!!! It’s Pooh!!! He’s from Chicago!!!!”

Duck, you’re on a roll. I wish I had an automated script to +1 all of your post deadline, sarcasm-laden posts.

I’m in my unhappy place.

[fleet]

Signing D-Rose is the next embarrassment.

“Hey don’t look over here . . . Look over there!!!! It’s Pooh!!! He’s from Chicago!!!!”

Duck, you’re on a roll. I wish I had an automated script to +1 all of your post deadline, sarcasm-laden posts.

I’m in my unhappy place.

I think they all but told us this is definitely happening. If not that, then some other futile and stupid gesture to paper over the terrible failure.

[drosestruts]

I would rather simply give minutes to a 2-way guy like Carlick Jones over signing and playing any of these scrap heap point guards? What does Wall or Westbrook even do for us? What problems do they solve?

Jones is scoring 20 points and dishing out 7 assists a game while shooting 42% from three.

That would be the highest 3P% on our entire team, and his 5 attempts per game would be second most.

[Michael Jackson]

I would rather simply give minutes to a 2-way guy like Carlick Jones over signing and playing any of these scrap heap point guards? What does Wall or Westbrook even do for us? What problems do they solve?

Jones is scoring 20 points and dishing out 7 assists a game while shooting 42% from three.

That would be the highest 3P% on our entire team, and his 5 attempts per game would be second most.

He very well might get a shot with the team... that being said he just is one of them guys that looks good at that level but I don't think he is NBA level.

[holv03]

Two players the Bulls should go after in my opinion are Carmelo Anthony and John Wall. I know people don't want John Wall but he could still provide help at the point. What else do we have to lose? The whole NBA is basically laughing at us already. Melo could provide scoring for our 2nd unit maybe he could help out Williams too.

[Red8911]

Two players the Bulls should go after in my opinion are Carmelo Anthony and John Wall. I know people don't want John Wall but he could still provide help at the point. What else do we have to lose? The whole NBA is basically laughing at us already. Melo could provide scoring for our 2nd unit maybe he could help out Williams too.

Carmelo is 38 turning 39 and hasn’t played in the NBA in a while. He’s done. Maybe he can still shoot but that’s about it, doing only that won’t get him on the court and all NBA teams seem to agree. Barton is probably the shooter they should go after, was in Denver so AK knows him.

On John Wall sure why not,he’s better than the guys they have now so wouldn’t hurt. I say the same for Russ and Beverley, any one of them is an upgrade.

[drosestruts]

I would rather simply give minutes to a 2-way guy like Carlick Jones over signing and playing any of these scrap heap point guards? What does Wall or Westbrook even do for us? What problems do they solve?

Jones is scoring 20 points and dishing out 7 assists a game while shooting 42% from three.

That would be the highest 3P% on our entire team, and his 5 attempts per game would be second most.

He very well might get a shot with the team... that being said he just is one of them guys that looks good at that level but I don't think he is NBA level.

He's almost assuredly a guy that looks good in the g-league but can't hang in the NBA, as that's what 98% of g-leaguers are. But I'm not sure what we have to lose by finding out. If nothing else he seems capable of taking and making a 3-point shot.

[GoBlue72391]

Don't know why anyone would want Rose other than for the warm and fuzzies. He has most of the same problems that Russ does, except he's worse.

[biggestbullsfan]

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[MGB8]

Don't know why anyone would want Rose other than for the warm and fuzzies. He has most of the same problems that Russ does, except he's worse.

While he is only shooting 32% from 3 this season (in very limited action, and still better than Russ's 30%), he shot 40% from 3 last season (Russ shot... 30%). And he's shooting 92% from the line (and shot a kinda-crazy 97% from the line last year). He's never been a "true PG" and I don't know how much he defends at this point, but I do think he's different than Russ. Russ is almost certainly a better overall player, but needs a larger role to do so - and the non-shooting doesn't mesh with DDR. As a DDR replacement (if he had come with a bunch of picks) - that would have made more sense.

But I'd take either 10 out of 10 over John Wall. Wall is done. No defense, shooting 30% from 3 but that seems to overstate his shooting (despite volume), - 7.3 +/-. And he plays with a duo in Leonard and George who, like LaVine and DeRozan, are very ball dominant. Which is why they went out and got Eric Gordon (who will end up playing the quasi 1 for them, along with Hyland).

[sco]

I'd be fine with Russ or Rose added. Ayo looks like a$$ this season.

[MGB8]

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Neither is going to be a great landing spot for him. If he goes to the Heat, I really can't see him meshing well with Jimmy on the Court. You'd have to stagger them.

Ditto Derozan on the Bulls, though DeRozan isn't the same level of Alpha - so maybe personality wise it works better.

The only way that I could see Russ really working on the Bulls is if either (1) DeRozan went back to what we saw with Lonzo - before he became the primary offensive option - including taking a lot more 3s (and making a higher rate, which he did with Lonzo); OR, possibly (2) they largely stagger DeRozan and Westbrook to minimize the non-shooting lineups.

Bulls need another good shooting guard or wing (who can defend decently) in the worst possible way.

That said, you could theoretically add both. And one thing Russ could also possibly do is at least shake-up what appears to be a moribund player culture / dynamic.

[Muzbar]

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I'm only going to be OK with Russ in Chicago is if he accepts the playmaker/energy role, he's not OKC Russ anymore, hell, he's not even Washington Russ anymore.

If he comes in and becomes the 3rd/4th option whilst drive and dishing and running the pick and role with Vuc and Drum then it may work out.

But we all know that's not what he's going to do, he still thinks he's OKC Russ.

[sco]

What about James Johnson?

[MikeDC]

I'm completely unworried about the shooting. In fact, Westbrook, despite being a bad shooter himself, is likely to make the team shoot more and better 3s.

The reason is because Ayo is the guy Westbrook would be replacing in the lineup, and he can't shoot for ****. He also can't break anyone down off the dribble. He does absolutely nothing, which is why Zach, Vuc, Pat and Coby so rarely get open catch and shoot 3s. We need more firepower, not less. Westbrook is going to give it by collapsing the defense and making passes to open guys that nobody on this team currently has the ability to try.

[biggestbullsfan]

If we do sign someone from the buyout market. I think the biggest question is who we cut. Idk if it’s Tony since we need a 3rd big in case Vuc or Andre get hurt.

[Darius Miles Davis]

If we sign a buyout player, am I correct that if we sign them for the minimum, we are actually only paying them a prorated portion of the minimum as it applies to the number of games left in the season. Because we have only 1.7 million or so left under the luxury tax line, and we're not going to go over the luxury tax line to sign Russell Westbrook, are we?

[Muzbar]

I'm completely unworried about the shooting. In fact, Westbrook, despite being a bad shooter himself, is likely to make the team shoot more and better 3s.

The reason is because Ayo is the guy Westbrook would be replacing in the lineup, and he can't shoot for ****. He also can't break anyone down off the dribble. He does absolutely nothing, which is why Zach, Vuc, Pat and Coby so rarely get open catch and shoot 3s. We need more firepower, not less. Westbrook is going to give it by collapsing the defense and making passes to open guys that nobody on this team currently has the ability to try.

Haven't you said that trading for somebody that isn't a shooter is a non-starter? Unless it's Westbrook? A little contradictory but ok.

You should be worried about Westbrooks shooting, he's not just shooting bad from the floor, but also from the free throw line (65%).

Russ would definitely bring some positives to the team by pushing the pace, rebounding and bring energy but he gives up almost as much by being a terrible shooter/scorer, defender and turning the ball over quite a bit.

Plus if Russ does make this team better by being a PG and makes the playoffs then the front office may just want to stay with this group a bit longer.

I'm definitely see-sawing on whether I want Westbrook on this team.

[Muzbar]

If we do sign someone from the buyout market. I think the biggest question is who we cut. Idk if it’s Tony since we need a 3rd big in case Vuc or Andre get hurt.

We've got DJJ, we don't need Tony.

[Wingy]

I'm completely unworried about the shooting. In fact, Westbrook, despite being a bad shooter himself, is likely to make the team shoot more and better 3s.

The reason is because Ayo is the guy Westbrook would be replacing in the lineup, and he can't shoot for ****. He also can't break anyone down off the dribble. He does absolutely nothing, which is why Zach, Vuc, Pat and Coby so rarely get open catch and shoot 3s. We need more firepower, not less. Westbrook is going to give it by collapsing the defense and making passes to open guys that nobody on this team currently has the ability to try.

U bum @russwest44 already said he ain't going to Chicago! So therefore ain't no invite. Going to Chicago was a great honor until AK showed up!