NBA Trade Thread #11

[MrSparkle]

PW barely seems like a neutral trade chip in a bad return. Not sure how GSW benefits, besides saving salary on Kuminga's potential contract or exiting Wiggins' deal (who's playing very well right now, and not getting dumped for an injured bust).

AKME at it again. Leaking the rumor as he sits with a mysterious foot injury. "We regret signing this guy to a league-low starting salary of $18M... he's not even worth that! Anyone interested?"

I guess Kuminga/Melton for Williams/Craig works. Not particularly intrigued by Kuminga, but I also can't imagine getting a better return for Pat. Rolling the dice on another struggling RFA, though. I'd be puzzled if GSW agreed.

[MrSparkle]

AKME style trade:

Gobert, Ingles, Shannon Jr. for Vuc, Pat, Craig

FWIW , Rudy is having career-low numbers, while Vuc is having career-high digits. Could be the start of Rudy's hard decline as a zero-spacing defensive specialist who entirely relied on his athleticism. Kind of rough on the salary cap too ($38M owed in 2028). Also would kinda indicate we're going for another play-in. Bad trade!

But I could see this bounced around before the deadline, if MIN and CHI stay in play-in zone.

[Guru]

Lavine to the Spurs

[Dubious Handles]

What do you guys think of a deal centered around Randle/Vucevic?

[kodo]

What do you guys think of a deal centered around Randle/Vucevic?

In general the fanbase is looking to the future so I doubt a 30 year old return is what people want for Vuc. A pick or young player for Vuc may not happen, in that case people are probably fine keeping Vuc since he's only on the books for 1 more season.

[ChettheJet]

Over on Bleacher Report there's another guy with his players every team should trade for, as unrealistic as anything you'd see here.

BOS,, Torrey Craig, sure the Celts have no $2M player that would do anything for the Bulls, Xavier Tillman, Luke Kornet not exactly the answer to any question.

CHA or NOP for Vucevic. Neither has much of a center they can send back, and they have to put together 2-3 players to match the money. Nobody that's really going to help the Bulls

LAC for Lavine. They've got the same Powell, Tucker, Mann offer that doesn't sound any better than it did

This time the adds for the Bulls could come from, Kessler UT, Claxton BRK, Stewart DET.

I don't see where the Bulls have the youth or picks to overpay what Ainge always demands.Claxton just signed so what can the Bulls offer to a rebuilding Net squad? Stewart would pair nicely with Smith but what do the Bulls have qt $15M that helps DET?

Lavine to the Spurs

That's a lot of laughter from Texas. They have Vassell at the SG and the Bulls would need to take 4-5 players back to match Zach's contract.

[Muzbar]

Over on Bleacher Report there's another guy with his players every team should trade for, as unrealistic as anything you'd see here.

BOS,, Torrey Craig, sure the Celts have no $2M player that would do anything for the Bulls, Xavier Tillman, Luke Kornet not exactly the answer to any question.

CHA or NOP for Vucevic. Neither has much of a center they can send back, and they have to put together 2-3 players to match the money. Nobody that's really going to help the Bulls

LAC for Lavine. They've got the same Powell, Tucker, Mann offer that doesn't sound any better than it did

This time the adds for the Bulls could come from, Kessler UT, Claxton BRK, Stewart DET.

I don't see where the Bulls have the youth or picks to overpay what Ainge always demands.Claxton just signed so what can the Bulls offer to a rebuilding Net squad? Stewart would pair nicely with Smith but what do the Bulls have qt $15M that helps DET?

Lavine to the Spurs

That's a lot of laughter from Texas. They have Vassell at the SG and the Bulls would need to take 4-5 players back to match Zach's contract.

Mann can't be included in any trades this season due to his extension.

I swear these 'writers' don't actually do any research when looking into their trade ideas.

I'd 100% be down in a deal that brings back Claxton, his contract declines over the years which makes it get more valuable as it goes on, could actually be a decent trade chip in the future (he can't be traded until after Dec 15 though).

[Chi town]

Lavine to the Spurs

That’s been my hope.

[sco]

Lavine to the Spurs

That’s been my hope.

For what? Would likely be something like Keldon Johnson and Barnes and a 1st and maybe out pick back.

[Chi town]

Lavine to the Spurs

That’s been my hope.

For what? Would likely be something like Keldon Johnson and Barnes and a 1st and maybe out pick back.

Yep. Need another top 20 1st in this draft.

I’d be willing to attach POR pick to Lavine or Vuc to make that happen too. Although I do think if POR get a strong player in this draft they could be conveying two years from now.

[Hangtime84]

Lavine to the Spurs

Sure we getting Altanta pick and our pick cause if not no deal.

[Chi town]

Dec 15 is when the trade window opens up with recently signed players able to be traded.

As of now…

I think Vuc will easily be traded for 2nds and expiring. To get a 1st we will have to take a bad contract.

I think Zach is in the same boat in this economic climate. Very few suitors that can pay and have an asset. Would need to take back bad money to get a 1st. DON’T see Zach getting traded this season. Summer time most likely.

I think Coby gets traded for two non lottery 1sts. His contract is easy to trade.

Giddey should be the one getting traded but AK will double down like usual to save face.

Once one of Vuc Coby Zach get traded our offense will really struggle. I expect Pat and Buz to get way more shots and be featured and stretched in their role with much more on ball opportunities.

[MrSparkle]

I think Zach/Coby/Craig for Collins/Keldon/Tre and our 1st back, along with Atlanta’s and Spurs picks (top-4 protected) would be entertained. That’s 40+ PPG and a lot of 3P spacing added to Spurs’ lineup. They’re kind of set on a young core.

I don’t see how else we get multiple picks. Could end up with a pair of mid 1sts for all our trouble, though. Guarantee 3 top-18 picks though. Could risk giving Spurs way too much talent.

[Chi town]

I think Zach/Coby/Craig for Collins/Keldon/Tre and our 1st back, along with Atlanta’s and Spurs picks (top-4 protected) would be entertained. That’s 40+ PPG and a lot of 3P spacing added to Spurs’ lineup. They’re kind of set on a young core.

I don’t see how else we get multiple picks. Could end up with a pair of mid 1sts for all our trouble, though. Guarantee 3 top-18 picks though. Could risk giving Spurs way too much talent.

You don’t really want 3 1sts in the same draft. Too many guys to develop at the same time.

No way Spurs would give us 3 1sts. Maybe one for Coby. Worst of ATL Spurs picks. I don’t think Coby will get us a lottery pick. Maybe on draft day he does.

[MrSparkle]

I think Zach/Coby/Craig for Collins/Keldon/Tre and our 1st back, along with Atlanta’s and Spurs picks (top-4 protected) would be entertained. That’s 40+ PPG and a lot of 3P spacing added to Spurs’ lineup. They’re kind of set on a young core.

I don’t see how else we get multiple picks. Could end up with a pair of mid 1sts for all our trouble, though. Guarantee 3 top-18 picks though. Could risk giving Spurs way too much talent.

You don’t really want 3 1sts in the same draft. Too many guys to develop at the same time.

No way Spurs would give us 3 1sts. Maybe one for Coby. Worst of ATL Spurs picks. I don’t think Coby will get us a lottery pick. Maybe on draft day he does.

Well, the ATL/SAS picks can be futures, although I’d fight for one in the 2025 draft. And we’re not getting a 3rd pick, we’d be getting our own protected pick back (which ultimately Spurs aren’t getting, unless AK decides to be an idiot and “compete” his way into giving SAS the best possible 11-13th pick, or 9-12 next year). With a little effort to tank for 2 hopeless seasons, Bulls can basically ensure Spurs get a 2nd rounder (much how we’ve gotten hosed by Portland).

I don’t think I care about getting a lot of picks at once. Neither of them are going to play any way, for Donovan. Might as well win a G-League championship. This FO’s hit rate is so low right now, I’m pretty sure they need 3 darts to land a starter.

Plus in this good draft, you might want to trade up. But also, Coby/Zach/Craig is a lot of win-now talent in exchange for essentially 2 bad contracts and a handsomely paid bench player.

[ChettheJet]

You're word playing. Ruling out a complete collapse to the top 10 the Bulls would go into the next draft with no picks. So their own, plus 2 makes it getting 3 picks because they end up with 3 picks.

Yes like the others I would want to end up with 1 for sure in 2025. possibly 2 when you sort out just who on the present roster you're building around. You might be able to force a rookie into the rotation but after the proposed trade

you're adding Collins one more year to Vucevic with one more year and Smith long term
Johnson signed 2 more years Jones UFA
Williams signed, Matas and Dosunmu here, Phillips and Carter another year
Giddey coming back? resigned?
Ball FA, Duarte RFA

The guys you don't want aren't going to just disappear and depending on what position your 1 or 2 rookies play, do they get in the rotation?

[Muzbar]

I think Zach/Coby/Craig for Collins/Keldon/Tre and our 1st back, along with Atlanta’s and Spurs picks (top-4 protected) would be entertained. That’s 40+ PPG and a lot of 3P spacing added to Spurs’ lineup. They’re kind of set on a young core.

I don’t see how else we get multiple picks. Could end up with a pair of mid 1sts for all our trouble, though. Guarantee 3 top-18 picks though. Could risk giving Spurs way too much talent.

Why would the Spurs add Coby and Zach to a backcourt that already includes Vassell, Castle, Paul, Branham and Wesley and then there's Barnes and Champagnie as wings.

Zach to SA is never going to happen.

[Chi town]

Per WT… What?!?!

In order for the Bulls to unload any player, rival teams will be seeking Dalen Terry and Julian Phillips to be included.

[ChettheJet]

That article is nothing but aged wishes that didn't happen at the deadline last year or over the summer. Yeah they want to trade Zach, is anybody coming up with something besides Rui, DLo, JHS and Vincent from the Lakers? The same for Vuc, notice they don't mention his stellar defense this year? So who wants him? There's no point to trading Lonzo Ball, any team has got to see him as an injury risk as he tries to get more minutes. The Bulls do nothing by clearing his expiring contract, are they going to get some kid with potential and a pick in return? No. In fact I may be the only one thinking if Lonzo is healthy and plays well the res of the season he might come back to the Bulls at a minimum price tag.

[Chi town]

That article is nothing but aged wishes that didn't happen at the deadline last year or over the summer. Yeah they want to trade Zach, is anybody coming up with something besides Rui, DLo, JHS and Vincent from the Lakers? The same for Vuc, notice they don't mention his stellar defense this year? So who wants him? There's no point to trading Lonzo Ball, any team has got to see him as an injury risk as he tries to get more minutes. The Bulls do nothing by clearing his expiring contract, are they going to get some kid with potential and a pick in return? No. In fact I may be the only one thinking if Lonzo is healthy and plays well the res of the season he might come back to the Bulls at a minimum price tag.

I think Zo does come back.

I agree that there is no traction to a trade for Vuc or Zach. I think Vuc goes first and then Zach or Coby at the deadline.