PG: 1-2-3 Cancun

[GoBlue72391]

Still not sure Giddey is a piece. He needs the ball a lot to effective and he's not good enough to be the primary.

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He had 25 points 10 rebounds and 4 assists with an injured hand.

Some people were waiting for him stink it up to complain, but it didn’t happen. He didn’t have a great game, but it was far from bad enough to be questioning him. And as you said we have no one idea how injured his arm is. 25/10/4 in an off game. Ship the bum off. /s

The only reason I'm being even remotely critical of him is he's going to want the bag. We have to talk about his negatives as much as his positives if we're going down that road.

[Indomitable]

We have two players to build with. Buzelis and Giddey. The rest can go.

I don’t care if it makes us worse I never want to see Vuc play for this team again. Possibly the worst defender in Bulls history.

Coby is completely useless if he isn’t scoring at an elite level…bye.

Sell high

[Dan Z]

Hate Zach playing hot right now with the Kings!

The Mavs aren't very good. The Luka head is still a head scratcher.

[ScrantonBulls]

It was a miracle we won 39 games

We lack talent a lot.

The bench is awful

Need wholesale changes. I'd only keep Giddey for the right price. Vuc better not be here next season.

I'm surprised you actually watched the game

Stop pretending to be a Bulls fan

Ive posted in 96 different threads on the Bulls subforum based on a basic search. But that won't stop you from crying about how I'm not a Bulls fan It's all a ruse!

[dukeespn]

Despite of playing really nicely after all-star break Giddey still ranks at the 110th in EPM this season.

Yet some keep talking like he's our savior and sure-fire cornerstone who's worth to build around.

[Dan Z]

We have two players to build with. Buzelis and Giddey. The rest can go.

I don’t care if it makes us worse I never want to see Vuc play for this team again. Possibly the worst defender in Bulls history.

Coby is completely useless if he isn’t scoring at an elite level…bye.

Sell high

Is this a time when his value is it's highest?

[waffle]

THis was my breakdown a while back in another thread - I stand by my premise, we have too many so so bodies who will ALREADY be on this team next year... Unless we get crazy lucky in the draft (even if, frankly) moves are needed, and some might be pretty close to salary dumps

We have too many players. We have 2 highish picks. That's 2 more bodies. Without some consolidating trades we don't have that much flexibility going into next year

The way I think about it is players we know are here next year, including likelihood for being traded

WILL BE HERE (not that they are the best, but realistically....they'll be on the team)
Matas
Ball
Pwill
Smith
Terry
Phillips

PROBABLY will be here
Collins - we need bigs he is under contract he's GOOD...
White - you ABSOLUTELY could see the logic of trading white, but again, AK likes his own toys best
Ayo - Should make the team. Cheap flexible plays D

That's already 9 bodies!

50/50 IFFY
Vuch - Probably 50/50 at season's start
Huerter - like him but he's tradable
Tre Jones - HOPE TO HECK they sign him

So there are potentially 2 or 3 MORE BODIES

So that's already a pretty packed roster, not a winning roster.

Oh yeah, 2 high draft picks. AK doesn't seem to value picks that much? But there is the potential for 2 more bodies

Now....Giddey. History would suggest AK will just sign him. He likes his own toys better than the next kids toys. The logical thing would be to let him get an offer....but that offer could be SIGNIFICANT... big big big

That is alot of potential bodies.

Yes, they will probably try to move Vuch. I could see a package of picks, Vuch and another decent body or 2 for a big. Not naming names. And if it were a 3 for 1 or thereabouts that wouldn't be a bad thing

Without a consolidating trade even if Giddey goes elsewhere we still have lots and lots of bodies that will likely already be on the roster.

And part of the worry here is that AK has not shown he has a clue on how to build a roster. It's very worrying

[Indomitable]

We have two players to build with. Buzelis and Giddey. The rest can go.

I don’t care if it makes us worse I never want to see Vuc play for this team again. Possibly the worst defender in Bulls history.

Coby is completely useless if he isn’t scoring at an elite level…bye.

Sell high

Is this a time when his value is it's highest?

Coby is at his highest.

[TheGOATRises007]

I'm surprised you actually watched the game

Stop pretending to be a Bulls fan

Ive posted in 96 different threads on the Bulls subforum based on a basic search. But that won't stop you from crying about how I'm not a Bulls fan It's all a ruse!

Okay good for you

Stop quoting me and keep doing what you're doing

[Indomitable]

I really enjoyed the final 25 games of the season.

Having said that tonight was a brutal way to go out and a nice reminder on how far away we actually are. I am glad Williams scored a big fat zero, it matches his contribution to the team this season.

A lot of those games were fools gold. They should be open to moving everyone.

Only Giddey and Matas should be held in reserve.

[meekrab]

White - you ABSOLUTELY could see the logic of trading white, but again, AK likes his own toys best

Coby is the last remaining survivor from the GarPax days, gotta keep him for the continuity.

[ScrantonBulls]

Sell high

Is this a time when his value is it's highest?

Coby is at his highest.

For sure. I don't expect his value to be that high though. His affordable contract helps though. Maybe they get a mid round 1st for him?

[DuckIII]

This was a blessing. The fans needed to understand just how far away we are, as does AK.

It’s also better for negotiating with Giddey that we got spanked quick. Not that he’s losing money, but had he played great and lead us into a decent round against Cleveland his value would have gone way up.

And it’s better for our lottery odds. Which we very clearly need.

[Ccwatercraft]

Tough ending to the season.

The only bright spot is a slim hope of a lotto miracle and some retooling.

Fun season people, I enjoyed it!

[Dan Z]

Sell high

Is this a time when his value is it's highest?

Coby is at his highest.

This game didn't help.

I have no idea what they can get for him.

[Dan Z]

This was a blessing. The fans needed to understand just how far away we are, as does AK.

It’s also better for negotiating with Giddey that we got spanked quick. Not that he’s losing money, but had he played great and lead us into a decent round against Cleveland his value would have gone way up.

And it’s better for our lottery odds. Which we very clearly need.

You think AK will really understand how far away we are? I have my doubts.

[Dan Z]

Is this a time when his value is it's highest?

Coby is at his highest.

For sure. I don't expect his value to be that high though. His affordable contract helps though. Maybe they get a mid round 1st for him?

Do you mean something like Orlando's pick (#16) in the draft? That's not very exciting.

[GoBlue72391]

Coby is at his highest.

For sure. I don't expect his value to be that high though. His affordable contract helps though. Maybe they get a mid round 1st for him?

Do you mean something like Orlando's pick (#16) in the draft? That's not very exciting.

It's probably a better outcome than giving him the bag, though.

[WindyCityBorn]

This was a blessing. The fans needed to understand just how far away we are, as does AK.

It’s also better for negotiating with Giddey that we got spanked quick. Not that he’s losing money, but had he played great and lead us into a decent round against Cleveland his value would have gone way up.

And it’s better for our lottery odds. Which we very clearly need.

You think AK will really understand how far away we are? I have my doubts.

We got absolutely obliterated at home by a very middling Miami team. All of our weaknesses were on full display. Especially defensively and the lack of #1 or #2 scorer.

[ScrantonBulls]

For sure. I don't expect his value to be that high though. His affordable contract helps though. Maybe they get a mid round 1st for him?

Do you mean something like Orlando's pick (#16) in the draft? That's not very exciting.

It's probably a better outcome than giving him the bag, though.

Yep, this. Stack picks and stay flexible with your cap. Coby long-term would be terrible IMO.