The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall.

[Jcool0]

Wrong...

JL was 21yr old when he transferred to a D1 school, UNLV, and average 20 and 11.

Pat Williams was 18yr old when he started his D1 career at Florida State.

And made no impact.

Pat made no impact? Great argument.

Based on his on court play. He really didnt do much.

[fleet]

Watch on YouTube

dont know if this was already posted...but this is a very good deep dive on his game.

He doesn’t appear very confident in his shots, and his offense is forced much if the time. A lot of work to do just getting a feel for the game.

[Bankshot]

Williams probably needs to lose some of that weight in his quads. Looks too big there.

If Williams is going to hit on his upside, he's going to need to be capable of playing the 3. He can be a potential mismatch as a 3 if he can add the requisite ball skills/shooting. As a pure 4, he feels like more of a role-player to me.

Did you actually say he needs to loose weight in his quads.....dude you have to be **** me....I swear 2020 has people loosing their minds

[chicago paxsons]

AK made it very clear that he got his guy...no equivocation. He clearly said that he didn't really pursue trading up. He was happy with the 4th pick and who he got. Honestly, I can't ever recall a management group more committed to a first round pick.

I'm glad he got his guy. The fact that ak picked a high character, high work ethic, high iq defense player with offensive potential is exciting to me. It's just nice to see our front office be gung ho about a player with potential, instead of how garpax would be all in on a player who is good, but has pretty much reached his potential.

The bolded is what GarPax got ripped for, even though they had a successful overall drafting track record.

They would draft players with those traits, but would more often than not draft guys who could win now and had reached their ceiling. They also had the issue of, at the top of the draft, pretty much always drafting the consensus best player and not swinging for the fences, like when they drafted the consensus pick marquis teague without ever working him out. It seemed, to me, they must have put more energy into scouting players outside the lottery because of how many times they nailed those picks as opposed to how many successful lottery picks they had.

[SfBull]

Some ofPW's skills and weaknesses showed in this game against Louisville.Watch number 4 , clearly not a starter .But I liked what I saw from him .

Watch on YouTube

[tedwilliams1999]

I watched the full FSU vs UNC game that's floating around YouTube, and focused exclusively on Patrick Williams. Here are some random rambling thoughts, from a non-expert.

1. The first thing that stands out is the size of Williams... He's huge.

2. Regarding athleticism, here is my take: physical size is obviously again elite, as his frame has room to grow. Hands seem massive and strong. His top end to end speed in a straight line looks solid for a wing, and his vertical leap looks great off two feet. I don't remember seeing any obvious one foot jumps. Very coordinated but not the most fluid athlete we've seen at his size.

His defensive stance is excellent, and he shuffles his feet very well, which allows him to move laterally plenty quick enough. Does have seemingly heavy feet, which means he's slow to change directions. His hips may also hinder him here, as they seem stiff. Acceleration seems good at times, and labored at other times, so this was confusing. Not that great at changing directions, and yet he didn't seem to need to very often. I couldn't gauge his center of gravity too well, but he really got low in his stance.

3. For most of the game, Williams appears visually slow and lumbering. Despite this, he rarely was beat laterally all game. Always seems just as athletic as he needs to be.

4. Occasionally his reaction times and athleticism were just breath taking, generally in help defense. He doesn't rely on his athleticism but seems to tap into it whenever he needs to, similar to WCJ.

5. Defensively, FSU had Williams press the ball at 3/4 court, and he only guarded the perimeter in this game. He switched basically everything, so it was hard to assess PnR defense, but his man to man defense seemed fine to me and help defensive instincts seem to be off the charts. He has clearly been coached well, as his stance and fundamentals are extremely solid.

I couldn't really assess his interior defense, given that he was only on the perimeter.

6. If Williams plays defense like this in every game, I can understand why his rebounding numbers might be low - he just wasn't around the paint at all on defense. He did show great instincts on the offensive glass though. Poorly timed jumps on 1 or 2 rebounds. Does seem to box out guys pretty well.

7. Offensively, Williams was definitely not a focal piece. His shot release looks a little slow, but form is solid without a hitch. He nailed two catch and shoot threes that I saw, and a smooth off the dribble jumper. He hangs around the perimeter mostly, and takes opportune cuts. I didn't see much dribbling but he appears very comfortable handling the ball. Makes very quick offensive reads when he needs to. Solid free throw form.

Overall, the one thing I was most struck by was the few times when Williams really did turn on the jets and tap into some of his athleticism. His body just gobbles up space on the court, and he seems to get every where he needs to, and as quickly as he needs to. His reaction times on help defense also seemed special on 1 or 2 plays. If this is the sort of athlete he is - that is to say, a highly functional one - then I can easily see why he may have jumped up draft boards with more intense work outs.

I think give his ability to protect the rim from the weak side, I'd like to have him as a 4 next to WCJ. Our defensive IQ as a team and rim protection would be excellent and we'd be highly switchable. With that said, on switches (and FSU switched everything), Williams looks completely comfortable, and his body is so wide that it takes some of the little guys an extra half step to get around. Notably, Cole Anthony never actually beat Williams off the dribble. He can certainly hold his own I think as a 3, though my personal feeling is that he is more of a 4. Either way, it's hard to imagine him being a defensive liability at either position based on what I've seen so far.

Offensively his position seems to be that of a true wing, since he mostly hung around the perimeter. He spaced the floor, but not a high volume shooter. Not a movement shooter like JJ Reddick, needs a half second to get set and then shoot. Off the dribble game is extremely raw, but I was encouraged by the comfort with his handle. He also moves the ball quickly, and doesn't seem to think the game slowly, ala Lavine or Kris Dunn.

Williams' athleticism is certainly a swing skill for me - if there is more to his athletic reserve than meets the eye, then he should have a high ceiling. Otherwise, I am quite comfortable with a high floor as well. I didn't scout or watch film on any of the other players, so I don't have any regrets of missing out on any one, and I'm willing to trust AKME for at least this one year. I'm sure the trade down possibilities just weren't there for them to be sure they'd get their guy - if they were, then a trade obviously would have happened. So though Williams was a slight reach at 4, I'm okay with it to draft the BPA on our draft board.

I'm excited to see more in a few short weeks!

[fleet]

Williams probably needs to lose some of that weight in his quads. Looks too big there.

If Williams is going to hit on his upside, he's going to need to be capable of playing the 3. He can be a potential mismatch as a 3 if he can add the requisite ball skills/shooting. As a pure 4, he feels like more of a role-player to me.

Did you actually say he needs to loose weight in his quads.....dude you have to be **** me....I swear 2020 has people loosing their minds

There’s a YouTube out there where a guy is going over PW highlight film, and was concerned to the point of distraction about Williams’quads. It was awkward

[kulaz3000]

Williams probably needs to lose some of that weight in his quads. Looks too big there.

If Williams is going to hit on his upside, he's going to need to be capable of playing the 3. He can be a potential mismatch as a 3 if he can add the requisite ball skills/shooting. As a pure 4, he feels like more of a role-player to me.

Did you actually say he needs to loose weight in his quads.....dude you have to be **** me....I swear 2020 has people loosing their minds

Yeah, that was a ridiculous comment.

[Fastbrk4brkfast]

AK made it very clear that he got his guy...no equivocation. He clearly said that he didn't really pursue trading up. He was happy with the 4th pick and who he got. Honestly, I can't ever recall a management group more committed to a first round pick.

I'm glad he got his guy. The fact that ak picked a high character, high work ethic, high iq defense player with offensive potential is exciting to me. It's just nice to see our front office be gung ho about a player with potential, instead of how garpax would be all in on a player who is good, but has pretty much reached his potential.

The bolded is what GarPax got ripped for, even though they had a successful overall drafting track record.

You're just going to pretend like the rest of what he wrote isn't there? His point was that GarPax would always take track record over upside. Of course that approach makes more sense when instead of a player development staff you have a player development guy.

[Bankshot]

Williams probably needs to lose some of that weight in his quads. Looks too big there.

If Williams is going to hit on his upside, he's going to need to be capable of playing the 3. He can be a potential mismatch as a 3 if he can add the requisite ball skills/shooting. As a pure 4, he feels like more of a role-player to me.

Did you actually say he needs to loose weight in his quads.....dude you have to be **** me....I swear 2020 has people loosing their minds

There’s a YouTube out there where a guy is going over PW highlight film, and was concerned to the point of distraction about Williams’quads. It was awkward

Yes I saw that.... absolutely ridiculous...now these you tube locked in their basement alleged experts are doctors or physical trainers.

[Just_Bullz]

Williams probably needs to lose some of that weight in his quads. Looks too big there.

If Williams is going to hit on his upside, he's going to need to be capable of playing the 3. He can be a potential mismatch as a 3 if he can add the requisite ball skills/shooting. As a pure 4, he feels like more of a role-player to me.

Did you actually say he needs to loose weight in his quads.....dude you have to be **** me....I swear 2020 has people loosing their minds

Exactly, its like telling Bron to lose weight and drop to 230lbs.

PWill is fine, he is a man child for his age and this is what differentiates him from his peers. We ain't looking for some marathon runners here.

[Fastbrk4brkfast]

Williams probably needs to lose some of that weight in his quads. Looks too big there.

If Williams is going to hit on his upside, he's going to need to be capable of playing the 3. He can be a potential mismatch as a 3 if he can add the requisite ball skills/shooting. As a pure 4, he feels like more of a role-player to me.

Did you actually say he needs to loose weight in his quads.....dude you have to be **** me....I swear 2020 has people loosing their minds

There’s a YouTube out there where a guy is going over PW highlight film, and was concerned to the point of distraction about Williams’quads. It was awkward

lol you gotta post it now. I need the memes bro!

[TheFinishSniper]

Good thing Youtube already decided what's his nickname in NBA. So no need for RealGM to try it.

[TheSuzerain]

Williams probably needs to lose some of that weight in his quads. Looks too big there.

If Williams is going to hit on his upside, he's going to need to be capable of playing the 3. He can be a potential mismatch as a 3 if he can add the requisite ball skills/shooting. As a pure 4, he feels like more of a role-player to me.

Did you actually say he needs to loose weight in his quads.....dude you have to be **** me....I swear 2020 has people loosing their minds

Yeah, that was a ridiculous comment.

It's definitely not, but you do you. You can 100% over-bulk.

[TheSuzerain]

Williams probably needs to lose some of that weight in his quads. Looks too big there.

If Williams is going to hit on his upside, he's going to need to be capable of playing the 3. He can be a potential mismatch as a 3 if he can add the requisite ball skills/shooting. As a pure 4, he feels like more of a role-player to me.

Did you actually say he needs to loose weight in his quads.....dude you have to be **** me....I swear 2020 has people loosing their minds

Exactly, its like telling Bron to lose weight and drop to 230lbs.

PWill is fine, he is a man child for his age and this is what differentiates him from his peers. We ain't looking for some marathon runners here.

lol PWill isn't LeBron James.

[Leslie Forman]

People aren't gonna want to hear it but this guy is clearly supposed to be Markkanen's eventual replacement.

The power forward position is dead. The 4 is just a wing who's strong enough to handle himself inside.

[Ugly Duckling]

I think his butt is a little small for his frame. He needs to do more squats to hit his Kyle Lowry potential
.

[Chi town]

People aren't gonna want to hear it but this guy is clearly supposed to be Markkanen's eventual replacement.

The power forward position is dead. The 4 is just a wing who's strong enough to handle himself inside.

Have thought and posted about Lauri not fitting the modern nba at all. I thought about PW being his replacement right away. Or Lauri becomes a stretch 5 and WCJ goes.

Only thing that changes this is if Lauri can create off the dribble especially 3s. Maybe this new system will help him. I’m not thinking it will be enough though.

[Mbrahv0528]

Williams probably needs to lose some of that weight in his quads. Looks too big there.

If Williams is going to hit on his upside, he's going to need to be capable of playing the 3. He can be a potential mismatch as a 3 if he can add the requisite ball skills/shooting. As a pure 4, he feels like more of a role-player to me.

Did you actually say he needs to loose weight in his quads.....dude you have to be **** me....I swear 2020 has people loosing their minds

Lol. That was a suppper hot take, my goodness.

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[MrSparkle]

Honestly, as I watch PW tape, it's deja vu to Marquette Jimmy. I'm watching highlight videos of highly correct defensive tendencies, often very far from the ball (which says even more about a guy's level of focus and discipline). He's always hawking loose balls and rebounds. Nothing eye popping, but if you pay attention to him, he's extremely mobile, tough and versatile. And then in the few chances he handled a break, made a pass, or shot a contested shot, he looked totally competent.

But I'm not expecting anything but motor for 2 seasons. He will be a project. With a good floor and a good ceiling. Which is basically the exact type of player you want to draft, if not a rare super prospect like Lebron/Luka/Zion.

He looks like a 70% PF & 30% SF to me.