Way too early NBA draft thread 2021

[TyrusRose2425]

I would absolutely love Ayo. He might not have monster upside but I still think he can be a very very good player.

[Almost Retired]

I'd rather have Kispert than Jalen Johnson. Kispert might be the best shooter in the draft, and the kid knows how to play. Great vision. He'd be a rotation guy from Day 1. He can play SG when Zach sits, and the 3 when Paw plays the #4 or sits for a rest. He's legally old enough to drink so that turns off some draftniks. But I picture him as another Mikal Bridges, perhaps with a little more offense and not as much switchability on defense. But still a guy that makes the other 4 guys on the court look better.

Kispert is a decent pick in the second round.

Kispert is a classic GarPax player. Safe. No upside.

But he fits Zach's time line. Zach is at his playing apex for the next 4 years. We need useful plug and play two way rotation players that can help immediately. Kispert is the best 3 point shooter in the draft. He has good size. He can finish through contact inside. He's not a complete stiff on defense. How much "upside" can be expected from a 12-20 pick? A solid starter with his shooting ability is a valuable player to have. I compare his utility to Mikal Bridges or especially Joe Harris. Barring injury Kispert will have a long career akin to Reddick or Korver.

[gobullschi]

Kispert is a decent pick in the second round.

Kispert is a classic GarPax player. Safe. No upside.

But he fits Zach's time line. Zach is at his playing apex for the next 4 years. We need useful plug and play two way rotation players that can help immediately. Kispert is the best 3 point shooter in the draft. He has good size. He can finish through contact inside. He's not a complete stiff on defense. How much "upside" can be expected from a 12-20 pick? A solid starter with his shooting ability is a valuable player to have. I compare his utility to Mikal Bridges or especially Joe Harris. Barring injury Kispert will have a long career akin to Reddick or Korver.

You fill holes with vets in free agency. The Bulls already made this mistake when they drafted Doug McDermott. The draft is your best chance at adding a big difference maker.

[Almost Retired]

Isaiah Livers round 2 > Kispert round 1.

Well, every single Mock Draft website thinks differently. But if we go with someone other than Kispert in the First then Livers would be a great 2nd round addition. I actually wish we had another late First or high Second round pick. This draft is deep with potential. For a lead guard running buddy with Zach I'd like to have Ayo or David Duke of Providence. We need SF help. Hutch and OPJ are gone after this season. Kispert, Livers, Benedict Mathurin or Taevion Kinsey could help there. And we need a Center with size. Cockburn would be perfect, but is he's not available then Bassey or Ibou Badji are worth a look.

[Pax for Prez]

Isaiah Livers round 2 > Kispert round 1.

Well, every single Mock Draft website thinks differently. But if we go with someone other than Kispert in the First then Livers would be a great 2nd round addition. I actually wish we had another late First or high Second round pick. This draft is deep with potential. For a lead guard running buddy with Zach I'd like to have Ayo or David Duke of Providence. We need SF help. Hutch and OPJ are gone after this season. Kispert, Livers, Benedict Mathurin or Taevion Kinsey could help there. And we need a Center with size. Cockburn would be perfect, but is he's not available then Bassey or Ibou Badji are worth a look.

Hutch will be on the team next year unless he is traded since his option was picked up. Link below

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/12/central-notes-cavs-pistons-hayes-griffin-hutchison.html

[Pax for Prez]

I would love to get some people opinions and rankings on the mid to late 1st round PGs prospects. I am having trouble with my rankings.

PG / SG D. Mitchell - Baylor
PG / SG J. Springer - Tennessee
PG J. Butler - Baylor
PG / SG A. Dosunmu - Illinios
PG D. Nix - G League

Thanks for your help !!

[LateNight]

Isaiah Livers round 2 > Kispert round 1.

Well, every single Mock Draft website thinks differently. But if we go with someone other than Kispert in the First then Livers would be a great 2nd round addition. I actually wish we had another late First or high Second round pick. This draft is deep with potential. For a lead guard running buddy with Zach I'd like to have Ayo or David Duke of Providence. We need SF help. Hutch and OPJ are gone after this season. Kispert, Livers, Benedict Mathurin or Taevion Kinsey could help there. And we need a Center with size. Cockburn would be perfect, but is he's not available then Bassey or Ibou Badji are worth a look.

Bassey is ranked way ahead of cockburn in all the mocks I have seen. I’ve also seen Badji ahead of cockburn (but far behind Bassey)

[TheSuzerain]

Pass on Cockburn. He's a poor man's version of Udoka Azubuike from last year.

I don't really see why you'd take him over Luka Garza frankly.

[Almost Retired]

Pass on Cockburn. He's a poor man's version of Udoka Azubuike from last year.

I don't really see why you'd take him over Luka Garza frankly.

I think Cockburn is a better athlete with more upside. I looked at most of the Mocks and almost all of them have Kofi going higher than Garza. As a U of I Alum maybe I'm biased. I watched no Iowa games this year. But Garza can score inside pretty efficiently. He certainly has size. He's be a big upgrade over Felecio. I've also been noticing the mention of Ariel Hukporti playing in Germany. One Mock has the Bulls taking him in the 2nd Round. I know nothing about him I only know we need a big big to help Carter with all the big Centers that keep killing us.

[Almost Retired]

Isaiah Livers round 2 > Kispert round 1.

Well, every single Mock Draft website thinks differently. But if we go with someone other than Kispert in the First then Livers would be a great 2nd round addition. I actually wish we had another late First or high Second round pick. This draft is deep with potential. For a lead guard running buddy with Zach I'd like to have Ayo or David Duke of Providence. We need SF help. Hutch and OPJ are gone after this season. Kispert, Livers, Benedict Mathurin or Taevion Kinsey could help there. And we need a Center with size. Cockburn would be perfect, but is he's not available then Bassey or Ibou Badji are worth a look.

Hutch will be on the team next year unless he is traded since his option was picked up. Link below

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/12/central-notes-cavs-pistons-hayes-griffin-hutchison.html

What's the deal with him right now? Medical issue? Mental health issue? Longhaulers syndrome from the Covid infection? If he doesn't make it back this year the Bulls should buy him out. He's doing nothing for us.

[Almost Retired]

Isaiah Livers round 2 > Kispert round 1.

I watched the Michigan v MSU game today. Livers doesn't move the needle for me at all. And Wagner was not impressive either, though he was better the previous game between the 2 Teams. MSU was fighting for their lives and it wasn't a must game for Michigan. But Livers had 9 points in both games. Kispert could probably score that many left handed. AK likes shooters. And Kispert is the best of the crop. In the marquis games Gonzaga played against Kansas, Auburn, W. Virginia, Iowa and Virginia he hit on 52.5% from "3". He's close to 50% for the season. The Stepien has an excellent article about Kispert that I highly recommend, emphasizing "shooting gravity" and what that does to open up an offense. Kispert has great range well beyond the college 3 point line. Kispert has been working with Joe Harris in the off season. They are highly comparable players. And I've always like Harris. I wanted the Bulls to pursue him when he came up as a RFA a few years back. Kispert projects to be as valuable as JJ Reddick or Kyle Korver, and they both have had long and successful careers. I say we draft Kispert is he's availble. Pursue Lonzo Ball as a RFA. Pick up a big big in the 2nd Round. And then do a little Free agent shopping to round out the roster.

Starters: Ball, Zach, Paw, Lauri, Carter. Bench: Sato, Coby, Kispert, Thad, A Big Big. Keep Temple and maybe Gafford. Add some Free agent vets.

[Rose2Boozer]

I would draft this kid over Scottie Barnes in a heartbeat.

Isaiah Todd

Watch on YouTube

[Almost Retired]

I would draft this kid over Scottie Barnes in a heartbeat.

Isaiah Todd

Watch on YouTube

Another interesting prospect that is going to be available in the 2nd Round. I wonder if he could play the "3" early on until he adds maturity muscles and bulk? He's very fluid, has a nice stroke, and good length. But at 210 I'm not sure if he can play PF at the next level until he adds 20 pound of functional core strength. I wish AK could unload some dead weight and pick up even a couple of high 2nd rounders. This draft is not only stacked at the top, it is also very deep. I can see 3 or 4 projected 2nd rounders that I'd like to add to our roster to replace the dead weight.

[DroseReturnChi]

Pass on Cockburn. He's a poor man's version of Udoka Azubuike from last year.

I don't really see why you'd take him over Luka Garza frankly.

I think Cockburn is a better athlete with more upside. I looked at most of the Mocks and almost all of them have Kofi going higher than Garza. As a U of I Alum maybe I'm biased. I watched no Iowa games this year. But Garza can score inside pretty efficiently. He certainly has size. He's be a big upgrade over Felecio. I've also been noticing the mention of Ariel Hukporti playing in Germany. One Mock has the Bulls taking him in the 2nd Round. I know nothing about him I only know we need a big big to help Carter with all the big Centers that keep killing us.

Ayo and burn are pretty much college version of kobe and shaq it would be crazy not to snag them at late first and early 2nd.
Flying illini are a garbage team without those 2 its a miracle they are a top 5 team and favorites to win it all.
Trading mediocre Carter or RFA Lauri should easily get both.

[othawhitemeat]

Meanwhile, Curbelo just pops. Not a candidate for our range but his speed / coordination looks legit.

Hopefully he’s not entering the draft. He’s not ready. But he’ll be an NCAA superstar next year. The Illini will be his team and he’s going to put on a show. He’ll be a Sports Center darling.

As a fellow Illini Fan, I agree. He just needs some weight, experience, and a 3 point jumper and watch out. I think by staying one more year for Illinois and if he can develop that shot, he will be a lottery pick even being that small. He is just so skilled and has that ball on a string. Someone mentioned Tony Parker with Steve Nash passing and I can totally see that. It is just hard though to play many minutes in NBA without a 3 point shot.

[VolumePoster]

I would draft this kid over Scottie Barnes in a heartbeat.

Isaiah Todd

Watch on YouTube

That’s a good call. I’ve seen a bunch of ignite games and he pops. Not the same level as Kuminga or Green, but closer than people think. Certainly has the athletic gifts of an NBA player and the stroke is nice. Intensity level is strong as well I would say a better prospect than Nix.

[Almost Retired]

I would draft this kid over Scottie Barnes in a heartbeat.

Isaiah Todd

Watch on YouTube

That’s a good call. I’ve seen a bunch of ignite games and he pops. Not the same level as Kuminga or Green, but closer than people think. Certainly has the athletic gifts of an NBA player and the stroke is nice. Intensity level is strong as well I would say a better prospect than Nix.

He seems quick enough and fluid enough to play the "3" early on in his career. At 6-9" or 6-10" he'd be a nightmare matchup for a lot of opponents. I could see him with a bench mob lineup of Sato, Coby, Todd, Thad and a Drafted big (like Cockburn).

[Almost Retired]

Pass on Cockburn. He's a poor man's version of Udoka Azubuike from last year.

I don't really see why you'd take him over Luka Garza frankly.

I think Cockburn is a better athlete with more upside. I looked at most of the Mocks and almost all of them have Kofi going higher than Garza. As a U of I Alum maybe I'm biased. I watched no Iowa games this year. But Garza can score inside pretty efficiently. He certainly has size. He's be a big upgrade over Felecio. I've also been noticing the mention of Ariel Hukporti playing in Germany. One Mock has the Bulls taking him in the 2nd Round. I know nothing about him I only know we need a big big to help Carter with all the big Centers that keep killing us.

Ayo and burn are pretty much college version of kobe and shaq it would be crazy not to snag them at late first and early 2nd.
Flying illini are a garbage team without those 2 its a miracle they are a top 5 team and favorites to win it all.
Trading mediocre Carter or RFA Lauri should easily get both.

The last time we drafted a home town hero it worked out alright until injuries happed. I would be excited to add Ayo, and you know the kid would be thrilled as hell to be drafted by his home town team. I think he'd be a good fit with Zach.

[StunnerKO]

Read on Twitter

?s=21

[sco]

Isaiah Livers round 2 > Kispert round 1.

I watched the Michigan v MSU game today. Livers doesn't move the needle for me at all. And Wagner was not impressive either, though he was better the previous game between the 2 Teams. MSU was fighting for their lives and it wasn't a must game for Michigan. But Livers had 9 points in both games. Kispert could probably score that many left handed. AK likes shooters. And Kispert is the best of the crop. In the marquis games Gonzaga played against Kansas, Auburn, W. Virginia, Iowa and Virginia he hit on 52.5% from "3". He's close to 50% for the season. The Stepien has an excellent article about Kispert that I highly recommend, emphasizing "shooting gravity" and what that does to open up an offense. Kispert has great range well beyond the college 3 point line. Kispert has been working with Joe Harris in the off season. They are highly comparable players. And I've always like Harris. I wanted the Bulls to pursue him when he came up as a RFA a few years back. Kispert projects to be as valuable as JJ Reddick or Kyle Korver, and they both have had long and successful careers. I say we draft Kispert is he's availble. Pursue Lonzo Ball as a RFA. Pick up a big big in the 2nd Round. And then do a little Free agent shopping to round out the roster.

Starters: Ball, Zach, Paw, Lauri, Carter. Bench: Sato, Coby, Kispert, Thad, A Big Big. Keep Temple and maybe Gafford. Add some Free agent vets.

Yeah, I'm a huge big blue fan and I get what you're saying. I see both Livers and Wagner as glue/3&D guys...neither have an alpha scorer mentality. That's not to say they won't have NBA value, but neither is likely a future allstar.