chitowndish wrote:Taikuri wrote:
Yeah you probably read my post. We got similar kind of parents for sure. Stubborn and old fashioned in some ways. They could live for 10-30 years more each if they listened but they decide to gamble and I don't like that very much. If covid-19 becomes a yearly thing, then next year there will be some kind of medicine for it for sure based on some of the reports I read. Maybe it's too early for vaccines but some kind of medicine that helps against the symptoms and we are all more wiser about this diesease later on.
If this thing is permanently circulating amongst us, then with medicine we will reduce the fatality rate not far from the flu fatality rates (0.1%) eventually I hope. So it is the wrong time to gamble with this disease right now and some of the stubborn elderly people should wake up already. They think that they or their bodies are younger than they really are. A reality check is what they need.
I wish they'd just chill in their homes for some months and watch TV and make time run for a while if they can financially afford it that is. Losing their jobs isn't really a problem if they worked their entire lives unless they are having huge debts or bank loans going on.
Yep it was your post and Homosapian's I was thinking of them when I was having the conversation with him and I think that's what got me to write it out was that it seemed like there were others going through the same thing. It seems like a pride in everything they've been through will help them get through this but it's like everything you've been through makes this particular thing tougher so maybe just sit this one out. I did give him a reality check though I thought that was pretty important and it was kind of painful at parts but I basically told him what was going on in Italy and what their calculation was to determine if they give someone care. And when he said he didn't get pneumonia as a kid I told him the percentages were the complete opposite now he's on the other end of the spectrum of the age range. It was hard but I agree they need a reality check so they can make up their own mind. I also didn't push too hard in what he should do about it but I did kind of lay out what was happening in as straightforward way as possible and asked him to look up what was going on in Italy for himself.
I agree it's a very bad time for him to be out there and we just had everyone make a run on the stores in big crowds so I'm worried that our healthcare system is going to start getting taxed in the next week when all the people lining up to get TP at costco start showing symptoms. That would be a really bad time to be an elderly patient is in that main crush of people and he's been out the same times. I posted this earlier but it was probably a while ago but I'm really trying to get them to do oil pulling if they get sick (
https://www.webmd.com/oral-health/features/oil-pulling) I did this when I had a flu with coconut oil and it seemed like it kept my mouth nose and throat pretty healthy and limited congestion (which seems like the bad part of this if it gets to your lungs) and then a friend told me about Manuka Honey which you eat with oatmeal and has antibacterial effects. Also nobody seemed to buy the Sudifed congestion/mucus and flu medication so I ordered one of each and I'm just hoping if he does get sick it's kind of about just trying to help him not go serious in the first place so maybe if you can help fight the mucus and congestion it would never get to the lungs type thing. Who knows but I'm trying to do both convince him to stop going out and then just in case get some stuff that may be able to help him in case.
Interesting idea and it could work. How does the saying go "what doesn't harm you,can't kill you" or something. Also that vitamin C suggestion that someone posted here could be useful. Oranges or frozen berries give that I believe. I mean don't know if it works but it can't hurt and people just need to have their immunity system as strong as they can if they are going that route where they are basically willing to get infected and run the dice. So take all the vitamins, omega 3 etc.
It is also important not to get an additional small illness like flu to make the immune system weak just before getting corona so must avoid small diseases any way possible and then not going out to public after a small disease. Those are a few good basic things to follow I'd say.
I had to take drastic measures and try to scare my stubborn mother a little bit by telling her that if she gets infected and has to go to a hospital there will be some really ill people making noises through the night in those hospital rooms and she won't be sleeping much. Actually it's a really bad thing to battle serious diseases while not being able to sleep at all. Reduces the chances of survival for sure. I also reminded her that in Finland they have said that they won't be allowing much visitation to the hospital so that would kinda suck.
Maybe the non stop Corona programs in the TV will eventually brainwash her and make her use her summer vacation earlier and after some weeks it might be that even some work places will tell their employees to not come to work once the situation everywhere gets that bad and I do believe that it will get there.
is that picture a joke or what, considering what we know about the virus so far
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He also get more than 100 thumbs in FB when he take a flight. Well he is business owner and not coming back soon so...