2018 Draft Thread Lucky #7

[Leslie Forman]

If Curry/Irving/Lillard/Kemba can turn into good team defenders, I don't see why a 19 year old Trae Young can't.

Forget about those guys, just look at a guy who's pretty much the same size and also was supposedly gonna be a huge liability on defense: Tyus Jones. Guy is somehow second in DRPM among point guards now. He's not that good, but he's obviously no longer a liability.

He's a one-way player today, but he could be a two-way player by the end of his rookie deal. His offensive skillset is raw, but he's shown some flashes of perimeter shooting and low-post offense. And of course, if you throw it up anywhere near the rim, he's usually coming down with it.

So Trae Young is just never gonna make improvements to his game and body, but slow, no explosion, can't score Mo Bamba is gonna go from offensive liability to two-way player? Please.

Yeah, because that's what I said about Young.

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I mean…yeah, basically.

[Benedict Miller]

Bagley's big time. Wish we had him.

Trae Young would be a good get, but still don't believe he'll be there. These so called scouts had to be full of **** saying they would not draft him in the lottery.

[Red Larrivee]

I mean…yeah, basically.

That's really convincing. I didn't realize that pointing out his strengths and weaknesses equates to having no chance of improvement.

[Red Larrivee]

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned that Bamba might turn out to be Asik 2.0. I've learned my lesson about making optimistic projections about how much players will improve.

They're really not similar though. Asik was mostly a big body who lacked a lot of athetic ability. He was a smart defender at his peak, but didn't have the advantages Bamba has. Nor did he flash much of anything on offense.

[TheSuzerain]

Of all the projections bandied about, Bamba developing range seems like one of the least likely.

[Hangtime84]

Bagley's big time. Wish we had him.

Trae Young would be a good get, but still don't believe he'll be there. These so called scouts had to be full of **** saying they would not draft him in the lottery.

Who knows what happens to the lotto balls and Lauri would have rekt

[Darius Miles Davis]

Mo Bamba will be a Chicago Bull

And how do we feel about that?

I feel good about it. High level rim protectors are rare. Centers with that length who can move their feet with fluidity are almost non existent. He seems to be a good fit with Lauri on the floor. With the potential of his shooting touch, he has offensive upside at least.

[Leslie Forman]

Asik was mostly a big body who lacked a lot of athetic ability.

Bamba is a big body who lacks a lot of athletic ability.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Asik had the worst offensive ball skills I've seen from a player. He could get a pass directly under the rim and hit the top of the backboard with the ball.

He had very little finishing ability

[Chicago-Bull-E]

If I did a top 10 ranking of my opinion the highest floors, I get some wild results.

Bagley
Bridges
Porter
Ayton
Doncic
Bamba
Carter
Sexton
JJJ
Young

Basically, at worst case scenario, due to his elite rebounding and ball skills around the rim, Bagley is going to be an 11 and 8 player. Bridges will be a role player 3 and D player.

JJJ and Young, imo, might not get second contracts in their worst case scenario.

Idk if this means anything, but I've heard one approach to drafting is this strategy, work with who you know will be decent and go from there.

[kodo]

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned that Bamba might turn out to be Asik 2.0. I've learned my lesson about making optimistic projections about how much players will improve.

They're really not similar though. Asik was mostly a big body who lacked a lot of athetic ability. He was a smart defender at his peak, but didn't have the advantages Bamba has. Nor did he flash much of anything on offense.

And Asik was 25 when he was with us.

He had already been working out with top European professionals, conditioning, and working on his skills. And we got what we got. And it was great for some 2nd round picks.

Bamba is considerably more raw, will be 20 with his new team.

[TankForAyton]

Of all the projections bandied about, Bamba developing range seems like one of the least likely.

He’s about a 70% free throw shooter that shows good, fundamental form. No hitch, won’t have to rework his shot in the nba, just needs to keep shooting and get better. He’s a real smart guy - I don’t think it’s ridiculous at all to say he’ll develop as a jump shooter from midrange in.

[StunnerKO]

I’ll take this draft very much , Mikal and Chandler


https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2764935-nba-mock-draft-2018-predictions-for-trae-young-and-full-1st-round.amp.html

[Chitownbulls]

Bamba could be Bismack Biyombo 2.0


That would be absolutely awful. Bamba has more offensive game though. It's going to take him years to really develop on the offensive end imo.

[NDave79]

IMO, Bamba's a good, fluid athlete (for his size). Additional strength and having the game slow down (assuming these things happen) will make him look like a better athlete imo.

[Red Larrivee]

Bamba is a big body who lacks a lot of athletic ability.

Not true at all.

[TankForAyton]

Bamba could be Bismack Biyombo 2.0


That would be absolutely awful. Bamba has more offensive game though. It's going to take him years to really develop on the offensive end imo.

Bis is an absolute 0 on the offensive end. Bamba is decades ahead of him offensively already.

[Davell]

I’ll take this draft very much , Mikal and Chandler


https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2764935-nba-mock-draft-2018-predictions-for-trae-young-and-full-1st-round.amp.html

Solid value, but no way do I see us taking 2 Wings. Especially if Robert Williams is sitting there with the 2nd pick. Bridges and Williams? I'm down.

[DanTown8587]

The only argument for Trae Young is that he's a system changer; his talent and ability will be so good at the NBA level that the team he goes to will be able to use his abilities offensively to change how they play offense. It's not a terrible bet, the guy is a good shooter and will obviously benefit from playing in the NBA with far better P&R options than he ever did at Oklahoma. While I understand his skills are good, none of them are truly great. His shot isn't great, his handle isn't great, his size and finishing ability at the rim isn't great, his instincts aren't great. When I say they aren't great, I'm saying in a visual kind of way. Don't show me highlights, don't show me game clips because those aren't the measure of a player's ability. When I watch Young shoot, it still needs work and refinement. His handle is really sloppy (how often is he not in control of the ball) and when he finishes at or near the rim, how often is he able to avoid/finish through contact?

Trae Young has the second most impactful ceiling of this draft, second only to Ayton. But the one thing I'd say about Young is that how he'll be good in the league and what he wants to do is so far away from how Fred wants to play and how the team is being built around him that drafting Young is almost a "retool again" move where you're going with Young/Lauri P&R as the foundation of this team. If the idea is to draft Young but then resign Zach Lavine, just kill me now watching that team trying to play within any system of how Fred wants to play.

[The Force.]

Young is an ideal fit for Hoiball and I really like his fit w/ Lauri. The issue is he's a horrible fit with Dunn and LaVine. Dunn is basically a non-factor playing off ball (which is where he would have to play) and a LaVine/Young backcourt would be epically bad defensively.

I'd be cool with taking a flyer on him but would not feel good if they also sign LaVine long term.

I think the Bulls are eying one of JJJ, Bamba, or Mikal, and they'll take whoever falls to them. If they move up, I would assume they take Bagley.



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