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2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2

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Who do you want?

Ball
27
16%
Wiseman
29
18%
Deni
41
25%
Hayes
31
19%
Obi
4
2%
Vassell
14
9%
Okoro
4
2%
Haliburton
7
4%
Onyeka
3
2%
Other
4
2%
 
Total votes: 164

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#641 » by wonderboy2 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:07 am

WCJ has more upside than Okongwu. I guess I wouldn’t mind drafting Okongwu if he’s taking Markannan spot and playing alongside Carter though. Rebounding and Rim protection would be on point.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#642 » by PlayerUp » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:14 am

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TheSuzerain wrote:I want Okongwu or Hayes.

Both would immediately start and play a key role for us.

Haliburton takes the bronze.

Okongwu is the best big in the draft. If we can flip Lauri or WCJ for Okongwu, I’m all for it.


Well the jury is out on Wiseman he is the big unknown in this draft. Okongwu > Lauri/WCJ in terms of value. You have to add to move up for him which imo it's not worth doing. Okongwu shot is really really bad. It will take years to potentially fix it. He also is a poor playmaker. As many pointed out here, we badly need a playmaker or a #1/#2 option. Okongwu will be neither of these at the next level.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#643 » by Chi town » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:15 am

Yes. Please.

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#644 » by BullsFTW » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:18 am

Chi town wrote:Yes. Please.

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He’s definitely what GSW is looking for.
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Post#645 » by Chi town » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:23 am

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Chi town wrote:Yes. Please.

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He’s definitely what GSW is looking for.


And what AK is looking for too.

IMO he’s so similar to MPJ athletically and size profile.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#646 » by BullsFTW » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:27 am

Chi town wrote:
BullsFTW wrote:
Chi town wrote:Yes. Please.

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He’s definitely what GSW is looking for.


And what AK is looking for too.

IMO he’s so similar to MPJ athletically and size profile.

MPJ is a little bit more athletic and a better shooter but Deni is a better passer and defender.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#647 » by Chi town » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:29 am

Kid getting shredded and tatted.

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#648 » by BullsFTW » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:32 am

Chi town wrote:Kid getting shredded and tatted.


His athleticism is underrated.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#649 » by Chi town » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:39 am

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Chi town wrote:Kid getting shredded and tatted.


His athleticism is underrated.


Yep. I think he’s a late bloomer. Will grow into his body and still play slower and under control but will be able to use his body and strength. Think he will grow into more Harden type body then DLO.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#650 » by leo921 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:43 am

Would anyone do MPJ for 4th pick
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#651 » by TheSuzerain » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:44 am

PlayerUp wrote:
BullsFTW wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:I want Okongwu or Hayes.

Both would immediately start and play a key role for us.

Haliburton takes the bronze.

Okongwu is the best big in the draft. If we can flip Lauri or WCJ for Okongwu, I’m all for it.


Well the jury is out on Wiseman he is the big unknown in this draft. Okongwu > Lauri/WCJ in terms of value. You have to add to move up for him which imo it's not worth doing. Okongwu shot is really really bad. It will take years to potentially fix it. He also is a poor playmaker. As many pointed out here, we badly need a playmaker or a #1/#2 option. Okongwu will be neither of these at the next level.

Okongwu shot 72% from the line. His stroke certainly isn't broken.

His assists numbers aren't dreadful for his role.

But bottom line is we need a lot of things. And this draft certainly isn't overflowing with potential #1 and #2 options.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#652 » by BullsFTW » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:45 am

Chi town wrote:
BullsFTW wrote:
Chi town wrote:Kid getting shredded and tatted.


His athleticism is underrated.


Yep. I think he’s a late bloomer. Will grow into his body and still play slower and under control but will be able to use his body and strength. Think he will grow into more Harden type body then DLO.

I always thought he’s more of a Harden type because he seems more physical than D-Lo. But he has ways to go, and it depends how much work he puts in.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#653 » by BullsFTW » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:47 am

leo921 wrote:Would anyone do MPJ for 4th pick

I’d rather have Hayes or Deni than MPJ.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#654 » by PlayerUp » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:49 am

BullsFTW wrote:
Chi town wrote:Yes. Please.

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He’s definitely what GSW is looking for.


1. Edwards
2. Deni
3. LaMelo

Could see it playout this way especially if Wiseman underperforms during workouts. Leaves us with Wiseman, Hayes or we trade down.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#655 » by Leslie Forman » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:28 am

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Look at this dude. 7'10" wingspan and he's doing this? He is going to absolutely WRECK the league. Highest ceiling in the draft.

It is 2018, right?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#656 » by Chi town » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:15 am

leo921 wrote:Would anyone do MPJ for 4th pick


I threw that out when MPJ was blowing up his 30pt games preplayoffs and everyone said MOJ is worth way more than 4th pick...

Now he’s been a mixed bag and went off about his shots.

I think Hayes and Deni will be better than MPJ. If AK would make that trade I’d trust him though cuz he drafted and developed MPJ.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#657 » by kodo » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:33 am

If he had no back history, I'd do #4 for MPJ. I've been pro MPJ since the draft, but the reason he dropped is still valid, we don't know how long of a career he'll have. Even Brandon Roy got a few good years in.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#658 » by drosereturn » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:10 am

kodo wrote:If he had no back history, I'd do #4 for MPJ. I've been pro MPJ since the draft, but the reason he dropped is still valid, we don't know how long of a career he'll have. Even Brandon Roy got a few good years in.


I would even have to sacrifice future pick for mpj bc denver isnt giving up for a useless 4.
So much punishment for getting mediocre ceiling Carter. But bulls deserves to get punished.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#659 » by drosereturn » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:11 am

Chi town wrote:
BullsFTW wrote:
Chi town wrote:Kid getting shredded and tatted.


His athleticism is underrated.


Yep. I think he’s a late bloomer. Will grow into his body and still play slower and under control but will be able to use his body and strength. Think he will grow into more Harden type body then DLO.


And i hate late bloomers that takes yrs to develop. Just had one with White and Lavine.
Why cant they just perform from yr1?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2 

Post#660 » by drosereturn » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:12 am

Chi town wrote:
BullsFTW wrote:
Chi town wrote:Yes. Please.

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He’s definitely what GSW is looking for.


And what AK is looking for too.

IMO he’s so similar to MPJ athletically and size profile.


Just no. MPJ is Durant esque with more hops and bettery body. Deni imo is avg from these videos. Not limited below avg.
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