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[Dresden]

Lakers did really well. That’s the favorite in the west for sure and clearly better than the Clippers at the moment

Clearly? Nah, I'll take the Clippers roster and fit over the Lakers. Outside of LeBron and AD they have question marks and players that don't fit with LeBron (guys like McGee, Cousins, and Rndo).

We'll see what happens when the season gets under way but the Clippers kept their depth and added 2 superstars. Basically added Kawhi and PG13 to a 48 win team.

I agree. The Lakers look really old to me, with Rondo and Lebron, and who knows what they'll get from Cousins. He can still score, but he's not quick enough to switch onto faster players on defense. That's a big reason the Warriors kept Looney instead of Cousins. Kuzma is another guy who will be a defensive liability. Plus you have several non-scorers in Rondo and Danny Green.

I see them as no better than a 4th or 5th seed in the West.

The Clippers will be a hell of a defensive squad with Leonard, Kawhi, Beverly, Montrezl Harrell. I think they are clearly superior to the Lakers right now.

[Indomitable]

Lakers did really well. That’s the favorite in the west for sure and clearly better than the Clippers at the moment

Clearly? Nah, I'll take the Clippers roster and fit over the Lakers. Outside of LeBron and AD they have question marks and players that don't fit with LeBron (guys like McGee, Cousins, and Rndo).

We'll see what happens when the season gets under way but the Clippers kept their depth and added 2 superstars. Basically added Kawhi and PG13 to a 48 win team.

I agree. The Lakers look really old to me, with Rondo and Lebron, and who knows what they'll get from Cousins. He can still score, but he's not quick enough to switch onto faster players on defense. That's a big reason the Warriors kept Looney instead of Cousins. Kuzma is another guy who will be a defensive liability. Plus you have several non-scorers in Rondo and Danny Green.

I see them as no better than a 4th or 5th seed in the West.

The Clippers will be a hell of a defensive squad with Leonard, Kawhi, Beverly, Montrezl Harrell. I think they are clearly superior to the Lakers right now.

The Lakers is a bunch of guys being thrown together. The Lakers are loaded with bad defenders. The Lakers will be less the the Clips.

[RakimAbdulJabar]

Wizards getting Bertrans from Spurs for nothing, would have liked him on the Bulls. Every time I’ve watched him play he looks decent

Bertans is nothing worth sweating about.

He's a good role player and I would have preferred to add him than Kornet if the goal was to add a big that predominantly jacks up 3's. He knocked down 43% from 3 last season, 7% more than Kornet.

I also prefer a guy coming from 2 years in the Spurs system opposed to the Knicks system, which may be meaningless bias but I just hate Knicks players

[MrFortune3]

Lakers did really well. That’s the favorite in the west for sure and clearly better than the Clippers at the moment

Better at what exactly?

FO? Nope. Coach? Nope. Starting 5? Nope.
The Clippers have the superior coach, they are younger, more versatile and better constructed than the Lakers.

The rivalry will be fun to watch.

[PrimzyBulls81]

Lakers did really well. That’s the favorite in the west for sure and clearly better than the Clippers at the moment

Better at what exactly?

FO? Nope. Coach? Nope. Starting 5? Nope.
The Clippers have the superior coach, they are younger, more versatile and better constructed than the Lakers.

The rivalry will be fun to watch.

Yep, Clippers are obviously better than Lakers, better managed, better coached, better more balanced and younger team.. Defensive monster with Beverley, Kawhi, George, Harkless, Harrell!
But also with some nice shooting options.. Clips are no. 1 in West, Lakers are in 3-5 range

[BigJimFinn]

Wizards getting Bertrans from Spurs for nothing, would have liked him on the Bulls. Every time I’ve watched him play he looks decent

Bertans is nothing worth sweating about.

He's a good role player and I would have preferred to add him than Kornet if the goal was to add a big that predominantly jacks up 3's. He knocked down 43% from 3 last season, 7% more than Kornet.

I also prefer a guy coming from 2 years in the Spurs system opposed to the Knicks system, which may be meaningless bias but I just hate Knicks players

Bertans is basically a 6'10" shooting guard. Great catch-and-shoot guy from 3, good off-ball movement, does not play like a big at either end. 5 rebs per 36, 11% of shots taken at the basket. Could maybe work as a back-up for Lauri, but not as 5. Bulls clearly wanted a rim protector with true C size, so Kornet fits.

Generally, for 15 years this rule has been true: limited roleplayers look better with the Spurs than with any other team. There are tons of who? players who have made most of their career earnings on the first contract after leaving SA. Pop gets his bench guys paid, and he is happy to see them leave and get paid knowing he can always replace them. Conversely, role players who can look good in a bad team lacking structure may have more potential. The exception are high-volume, low-efficiency chuckers, the Blakeneys of the world, who can get theirs and stand out in a street-ball chaos with other bad players, but would never be tolerated with the Spurs.

[RakimAbdulJabar]

Bertans is nothing worth sweating about.

He's a good role player and I would have preferred to add him than Kornet if the goal was to add a big that predominantly jacks up 3's. He knocked down 43% from 3 last season, 7% more than Kornet.

I also prefer a guy coming from 2 years in the Spurs system opposed to the Knicks system, which may be meaningless bias but I just hate Knicks players

Bertans is basically a 6'10" shooting guard. Great catch-and-shoot guy from 3, good off-ball movement, does not play like a big at either end. 5 rebs per 36, 11% of shots taken at the basket. Could maybe work as a back-up for Lauri, but not as 5. Bulls clearly wanted a rim protector with true C size, so Kornet fits.

Generally, for 15 years this rule has been true: limited roleplayers look better with the Spurs than with any other team. There are tons of who? players who have made most of their career earnings on the first contract after leaving SA. Pop gets his bench guys paid, and he is happy to see them leave and get paid knowing he can always replace them. Conversely, role players who can look good in a bad team lacking structure may have more potential. The exception are high-volume, low-efficiency chuckers, the Blakeneys of the world, who can get theirs and stand out in a street-ball chaos with other bad players, but would never be tolerated with the Spurs.

I agree that role players outside the Spurs system don't usually translate the same level of success outside it, however being that he's mostly a spot up 3 point shooter, I feel that he's more likely to be able to translate in another system (assuming they have the personnel and coaching to utilise him the right way.

As far as not playing like a big at either end, he's certainly capable of finishing strong inside, he has some impressive dunks on his resume.

You said 5 rebs per 36, it was actually 5.8 last season which isn't impressive but to be accurate and Kornet was at 6.2 so I don't see much of a difference there.

Bertrans attempted about 74% of his shots from 3 point range and Kornet attempted about 68% of his shots from 3, the difference is Davis had better numbers all around in that regard
FG% - 45 vs 38
2pt% - 51 vs 41
3pt% - 43 vs 36
EFG% - 61 vs 50
FT% - 88 vs 82

What Kornet does better is as you said as a rim protector, however considering how little minutes each will get and with the drafting of Gafford, I figure Bertrans would be a more valuable player off the bench

[rtblues]

The Thadeus Young and Tomas Satoransky signings just got better.
The final years of the contracts are not guaranteed/fully guaranteed apparently, and
the advantages written in are all on the side of the team and not the players.

To me, that simply seals it as great free-agency. Low risk. no long-term deals, and in the end,
not a huge amount of dough, and quality players, and in the case of Satoransky he's still fairly young.
Young may have been a bit of an overpay, but not too bad or for too long. At the end of his contract,
Young would still have some value to salvage as well.

At any rate, when these contracts end and decisions/moves are to be made, Sato will either be considered longer-term depending on his performance in the next 2 seasons go, or, still have some trade value. But yeah, those third years not being guaranteed, or at least not fully guaranteed is the kicker. I didn't any hear anything about the details involving Kornet's deal, but sort of hoping it's been structured in a similar fashion. F/O finally learning and gaining some chops...

[sco]

While we may just go with a 3 guard rotation for the most part, I'd love adding another guy who can play SG who I could count on more than Valentine or Dunn. I'm rooting for Avery Bradley or Shumpert or Thabo as a 3-D wing.

[WindyCityBorn]

He's a good role player and I would have preferred to add him than Kornet if the goal was to add a big that predominantly jacks up 3's. He knocked down 43% from 3 last season, 7% more than Kornet.

I also prefer a guy coming from 2 years in the Spurs system opposed to the Knicks system, which may be meaningless bias but I just hate Knicks players

Bertans is basically a 6'10" shooting guard. Great catch-and-shoot guy from 3, good off-ball movement, does not play like a big at either end. 5 rebs per 36, 11% of shots taken at the basket. Could maybe work as a back-up for Lauri, but not as 5. Bulls clearly wanted a rim protector with true C size, so Kornet fits.

Generally, for 15 years this rule has been true: limited roleplayers look better with the Spurs than with any other team. There are tons of who? players who have made most of their career earnings on the first contract after leaving SA. Pop gets his bench guys paid, and he is happy to see them leave and get paid knowing he can always replace them. Conversely, role players who can look good in a bad team lacking structure may have more potential. The exception are high-volume, low-efficiency chuckers, the Blakeneys of the world, who can get theirs and stand out in a street-ball chaos with other bad players, but would never be tolerated with the Spurs.

I agree that role players outside the Spurs system don't usually translate the same level of success outside it, however being that he's mostly a spot up 3 point shooter, I feel that he's more likely to be able to translate in another system (assuming they have the personnel and coaching to utilise him the right way.

As far as not playing like a big at either end, he's certainly capable of finishing strong inside, he has some impressive dunks on his resume.

You said 5 rebs per 36, it was actually 5.8 last season which isn't impressive but to be accurate and Kornet was at 6.2 so I don't see much of a difference there.

Bertrans attempted about 74% of his shots from 3 point range and Kornet attempted about 68% of his shots from 3, the difference is Davis had better numbers all around in that regard
FG% - 45 vs 38
2pt% - 51 vs 41
3pt% - 43 vs 36
EFG% - 61 vs 50
FT% - 88 vs 82

What Kornet does better is as you said as a rim protector, however considering how little minutes each will get and with the drafting of Gafford, I figure Bertrans would be a more valuable player off the bench

Could be getting a lot of minutesof Carter can't stay healthy. Give me the rim protector and I'm not counting on Gafford to be ready as rotation player right away.

[RakimAbdulJabar]

Bertans is basically a 6'10" shooting guard. Great catch-and-shoot guy from 3, good off-ball movement, does not play like a big at either end. 5 rebs per 36, 11% of shots taken at the basket. Could maybe work as a back-up for Lauri, but not as 5. Bulls clearly wanted a rim protector with true C size, so Kornet fits.

Generally, for 15 years this rule has been true: limited roleplayers look better with the Spurs than with any other team. There are tons of who? players who have made most of their career earnings on the first contract after leaving SA. Pop gets his bench guys paid, and he is happy to see them leave and get paid knowing he can always replace them. Conversely, role players who can look good in a bad team lacking structure may have more potential. The exception are high-volume, low-efficiency chuckers, the Blakeneys of the world, who can get theirs and stand out in a street-ball chaos with other bad players, but would never be tolerated with the Spurs.

I agree that role players outside the Spurs system don't usually translate the same level of success outside it, however being that he's mostly a spot up 3 point shooter, I feel that he's more likely to be able to translate in another system (assuming they have the personnel and coaching to utilise him the right way.

As far as not playing like a big at either end, he's certainly capable of finishing strong inside, he has some impressive dunks on his resume.

You said 5 rebs per 36, it was actually 5.8 last season which isn't impressive but to be accurate and Kornet was at 6.2 so I don't see much of a difference there.

Bertrans attempted about 74% of his shots from 3 point range and Kornet attempted about 68% of his shots from 3, the difference is Davis had better numbers all around in that regard
FG% - 45 vs 38
2pt% - 51 vs 41
3pt% - 43 vs 36
EFG% - 61 vs 50
FT% - 88 vs 82

What Kornet does better is as you said as a rim protector, however considering how little minutes each will get and with the drafting of Gafford, I figure Bertrans would be a more valuable player off the bench

Could be getting a lot of minutesof Carter can't stay healthy. Give me the rim protector and I'm not counting on Gafford to be ready as rotation player right away.

Give me the better overall player personally. I don’t think the Bulls need to be cautious with Gafford, let him play if there’s a chance, what do you have to lose?

They’re not contending this year, might sneak into the playoffs if everything goes right for them and at best win a game or 2 in the first round.

I’d rather give minutes to Gafford and see what he has, he could surprise us. I wouldn’t be shocked if he ends up more valuable than Hutchison and Valentine.

[WindyCityBorn]

I agree that role players outside the Spurs system don't usually translate the same level of success outside it, however being that he's mostly a spot up 3 point shooter, I feel that he's more likely to be able to translate in another system (assuming they have the personnel and coaching to utilise him the right way.

As far as not playing like a big at either end, he's certainly capable of finishing strong inside, he has some impressive dunks on his resume.

You said 5 rebs per 36, it was actually 5.8 last season which isn't impressive but to be accurate and Kornet was at 6.2 so I don't see much of a difference there.

Bertrans attempted about 74% of his shots from 3 point range and Kornet attempted about 68% of his shots from 3, the difference is Davis had better numbers all around in that regard
FG% - 45 vs 38
2pt% - 51 vs 41
3pt% - 43 vs 36
EFG% - 61 vs 50
FT% - 88 vs 82

What Kornet does better is as you said as a rim protector, however considering how little minutes each will get and with the drafting of Gafford, I figure Bertrans would be a more valuable player off the bench

Could be getting a lot of minutesof Carter can't stay healthy. Give me the rim protector and I'm not counting on Gafford to be ready as rotation player right away.

Give me the better overall player personally. I don’t think the Bulls need to be cautious with Gafford, let him play if there’s a chance, what do you have to lose?

They’re not contending this year, might sneak into the playoffs if everything goes right for them and at best win a game or 2 in the first round.

I’d rather give minutes to Gafford and see what he has, he could surprise us. I wouldn’t be shocked if he ends up more valuable than Hutchison and Valentine.

Sure if Gafford can handle it. Bulls will be playing to win though so I don't expect see much in the way of entitlement minutes. And you say huge you the guy that is better, but you wouldn't be saying that when he is trying to play center and it's a layup line. We needed a backup center, not another stretch 4.

[VolumePoster]

I really like gaffords energy level and attitude. I’m ambivalent on his potential.

He’s big and athletic but he’s not the same length as players like Mitchell Robinson, Clint capela and deandre jordan. Maybe his hops and energy make up it, and I hope they do. Will be watching tonight, obviously rooting for the young man.

[VolumePoster]

Also I just love the clippers team. Those are tough two way players who will get in a stance and put you through hell. They’ve got scorers off the bench and a brilliant coach too. I want to see doc rivers lift the trophy.

I’d also like to see the warriors buried. Broke the game my ass. Basketball still is about being an athletic, determined SOB.

Now get off my lawn.

[RakimAbdulJabar]

you wouldn't be saying that when he is trying to play center and it's a layup line. We needed a backup center, not another stretch 4.

I'm not going to pretend like he's Mark Eaton or Mutombo but I disagree that it would be a layup line, he hustles and even if he doesn't get the block the guy makes the effort

Recovers and contests dunks, unlike so many players that don't want to be on the end of a highlight reel

Watch on YouTube

From a few years ago, he's gotten better since then

Watch on YouTube

I also love that he's always running the floor after a block, rebound or steal, he doesn't stand there flexing for the crowd, just get on with the play and try and create an advantage on the other end

Watch on YouTube

Anyway none of this matters as he's not an option, I just think he would have been a nice addition for the bench

[dckingsfan]

I think you guys might be the front runner for Russel Westbrook.

Coby White + Kris Dunn + how many draft picks are you willing to give up?

[TheFinishSniper]

I think you guys might be the front runner for Russel Westbrook.

Coby White + Kris Dunn + how many draft picks are you willing to give up?

lol
nothing. our front office doesnt believe in trading 1sts.

[dckingsfan]

I think you guys might be the front runner for Russel Westbrook.

Coby White + Kris Dunn + how many draft picks are you willing to give up?

lol
nothing. our front office doesnt believe in trading 1sts.

Ouch...

[sco]

I think you guys might be the front runner for Russel Westbrook.

Coby White + Kris Dunn + how many draft picks are you willing to give up?

lol
nothing. our front office doesnt believe in trading 1sts.

Ouch...

As much as I'd like to see what would happen, I don't thing the FO would take Russ if he was given to them. They are about development and team culture this season, playoffs are something they don't expect but don't want to get in the way of (for a change).

[RakimAbdulJabar]

I think you guys might be the front runner for Russel Westbrook.

Coby White + Kris Dunn + how many draft picks are you willing to give up?