Melo 15: The End Is Nigh

[consultant]

To be fair - Melo is from NY and will be getting more money there. This isn't that big of a surprise, it just stings because this always seems to happen with the Bulls.

[mostek]

The Bulls can not get Melo a salary of over $17M, without a Boozer S&T, while keeping Rose, Noah, Taj, McDermott, and Smith. If they could also dump the last two, you could get the number up to $18.4M, leaving Melo, Rose, Noah, Taj, the RMLE, and 8 minimum salary players.

Think you forgot to mention Butler? Your numbers seem to include him.

Those numbers do not include Butler, if the Bulls keep Butler, the number goes down to $15.4M

Keeping Rose, Noah, Taj, Butler, McDemott, Smith - $15.4M
Keeping Rose, Noah, Taj, McDemott, Smith - $16.9M
Keeping Rose, Noah, Taj - $18.4M

I will go back and add the calculations to my OP.

[ryannik09]

Melo's #1 choice is probably that he wants to stay in NY and win. So he should be trying to recruit people like Pau to join him; my guess is if he can't get someone like that to help him win in NY; he'll leave and join the team that gives him the best option for money and wins which is Chicago

[musketeer]

Not surprised. I've felt all along Melo was about the money.

Very, very much disagree about the people dissing Gasol. He is one of the most skilled bigs in the history of the NBA. I think you take his performance under D'Antoni with a huge grain of salt.

There's a reason that Sam Presti, Greg Popovich, Phil Jackson and Thibs are all after him in a big way. Those guys know basketball. Gasol would be a great addition and give the Bulls arguably the best group of big guys in the NBA. That counts for something.

You keep trying to add some solid guards/wing guys and hope McDermott is everything Thibs thinks he is and do the best you can.

I think deep down we all knew there wasn't some FA savior that was going to come riding in on a white horse to form a super team here. Right?

[WinCity]

You're all so gullible. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck

I was Mr optimism until now.

Its over. All over. This was all a giant jerk off. We blew our wad and got nothing...

If you think Melo recruiting Pau to NY can somehow end in Melo coming to Chicago your deluded.

Game over man. Game over.

How does opting out and going across the country meeting with rival teams improve your ability to recruit though? Other free agents don't even know if Melo's gonna stay in New York and probably wonder why he's so hesitant to just re-sign with them or just opt back in. Come on, these conspiracy theories don't make any sense. Maybe Melo really doesn't know what he wants yet but wants to have multiple strong options.

Anyway you look at this its a nail in our coffin. If he was prepared to leave he would not be trying to bring talent there. He could just as easily have opted out to create space for Gasol to sign.

[r1terrell23]

[ryan44]

It's quite amazing that no big time free agent has ever wanted to come here. My god, beautiful city, chance to win, thibs, smoking with noah, derricks crib. What's else do you need.

it's really mind boggling

You really want to stick with Ny for the rest of your career and get your ass handed to you every year by us and the Heat?

Jesus, have fun then

If Melo was always set on returning to New York, then yeah, I'd be irritated that he jerked the FO around and wasted their time. Other than that, I have no real problem with taking the money to stay. Obviously would have liked him to take a pay cut to play in Chicago, but whatever, still gotta hope Rose stays healthy or none of this will matter anyway.

[Polynice4Pippen]

I was Mr optimism until now.

Its over. All over. This was all a giant jerk off. We blew our wad and got nothing...

If you think Melo recruiting Pau to NY can somehow end in Melo coming to Chicago your deluded.

Game over man. Game over.

How does opting out and going across the country meeting with rival teams improve your ability to recruit though? Other free agents don't even know if Melo's gonna stay in New York and probably wonder why he's so hesitant to just re-sign with them or just opt back in. Come on, these conspiracy theories don't make any sense. Maybe Melo really doesn't know what he wants yet but wants to have multiple strong options.

Anyway you look at this its a nail in our coffin. If he was prepared to leave he would not be trying to bring talent there. He could just as easily have opted out to create space for Gasol to sign.

Who says he was prepared to leave? You realize it's possible that he was just undecided and wanted to see his options. And $3 million is not legit cap space for Pau Gasol. Stop it.

[DroppinDimes]

Could be a last ditch effort for melo to recruit to NyC. Makes no sense for Pau imo, might as well stay in LA.
Might just be seeing whats Pau's plan....maybe team up in Chi.

Just a guess, who knows? Tryin to be positive

Dude you are spinning. If he was planning to leave he would not be recruiting anyone to NY. Makes no sense

It makes sense if he wants to be able to walk away saying that he searched for every reason to stay and even did some recruiting of his own. I just don't know at this point.

This still doesn't mean anything. Remember he's looking for reasons to stay. Also wasn't it reported that LeBron tried to get Bosh to come to the Cavs before agreeing with the Heat back in 2010? This means nothing to me. With that said, I believe that he will go back to NY.

[kingkirk]

What's the plan if we strike out on Melo, Love, Pau, and Lance?

Well my plan is :

A. Love
B. Dragic / Mirotic
C. Ariza/Mirotic

I'm in.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

If that's true about recruiting gasol for weeks....then Melo really wasted our f****ing time

Nitetrain was right!!!!


My head is exploding

No he wasn't. Woj has been wrong before. Expect fireworks!

What did Woj say? Link meeeeeee

[Adriano]

I have something to ask. Keep in mind that I only have 26 years old (turn 27 on july 9 th).

When, in the history, the Bulls sign a big FA on the market?

Ben Wallace was once the biggest fish available. And they got him. But he sucked.

Yeah, I saw that on 2006. I saw Ron Mercer on 1999 too .

What I think is... there's something wrong with the way this maneagement runs this team. If the Bulls don't get D-Rose on the draft, we will be whithout an all star caliber player since MJ. And c'mon, this is Chicago, is not a Milwauke or Sacramento. We have the third big market in the USA. Just imagine the damage that a Mark Cuban type of owner will do in Chicago.

I think the changes in the Bulls has to start with Jerry Reinsdorf, John Paxson and Gar Forman. Is to much mistakes and strikes out: T-Mac, Kobe, Pau Gasol (still on top of his game), KG, LeBron, Wade, Bosh. All of them are especulated here in Chicago and none of them come. Instead of that, we get Ron Mercer, Ben Wallace (a DPOY at the time but not what we looking for in 06. we need scoring back then - and now, by the way) and Carlos Boozer. And we lose Ben Gordon, Luol Deng and Kirk Hinrich (in 2010) for cap relief or for not go over the top (being cheap).

In the main time, the Lakers get Gasol, Dwight Howard (ok, just for one year, still they have the balls to try something) and keep Kobe. Miami get LeBron and Bosh. Knicks get Melo and Amare. New Jersey get Vince Carter. Dallas get Monta Ellis (not a superstar, but a great offensive player) Even the Raptors get a Rudy Gay type of player via trade.

What I want to say is: Gar, Pax and Reinsdorf doesn't have the balls to run a franchise in a big market city like Chicago. Is time to change everything.

[musiqsoulchild]

I have something to ask. Keep in mind that I only have 26 years old (turn 27 on july 9 th).

When, in the history, the Bulls sign a big FA on the market?

Big FA's yes......good ones ...NEVER!

Thats not an indictment of the Bulls....its the reality of the FA process.

[SteelerSpartan]

if Woj is right, who is the bigger scumbag in your guys opinion,

Melo needing an ego stroke tour to get his max

Or

Leon Rose for leading on Thibs and the Bulls like this?????

derricks probably like ....f*** it man, this is why I don't do this sh**

i hope this isn't how it really went down, I really don't want to put Melo in that same slime ball category as Lebron

hope I'm overreacting and Woj and everybody else for that matter still don't know what dafuq is going on

[Tenchi Ryu]

How does opting out and going across the country meeting with rival teams improve your ability to recruit though? Other free agents don't even know if Melo's gonna stay in New York and probably wonder why he's so hesitant to just re-sign with them or just opt back in. Come on, these conspiracy theories don't make any sense. Maybe Melo really doesn't know what he wants yet but wants to have multiple strong options.

Anyway you look at this its a nail in our coffin. If he was prepared to leave he would not be trying to bring talent there. He could just as easily have opted out to create space for Gasol to sign.

Who says he was prepared to leave? You realize it's possible that he was just undecided and wanted to see his options. And $3 million is not legit cap space for Pau Gasol. Stop it.

If anything, this thread is pretty easily weeding out who didn't want Melo in the first place. The quickness some folks are giving up is just too easy. Like just too damn easy.

[bullslas]

People! Calm down! He is NOT going to the Knicks!

[singal3]

if Woj is right, who is the bigger scumbag in your guys opinion,

Melo needing an ego stroke tour to get his max

Or

Leon Rose for leading on Thibs and the Bulls like this?????

derricks probably like ....f*** it man, this is why I don't do this sh**

i hope this isn't how it really went down, I really don't want to put Melo in that same slime ball category as Lebron

hope I'm overreacting and Woj and everybody else for that matter still don't know what dafuq is going on

I'm going to guess that Leon Rose will make a bigger commission off Melo's contract, so there you go.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

I have something to ask. Keep in mind that I only have 26 years old (turn 27 on july 9 th).

When, in the history, the Bulls sign a big FA on the market?

Ben Wallace was once the biggest fish available. And they got him. But he sucked.

Yeah, I saw that on 2006. I saw Ron Mercer on 1999 too .

What I think is... there's something wrong with the way this maneagement runs this team. If the Bulls don't get D-Rose on the draft, we will be whithout an all star caliber player since MJ. And c'mon, this is Chicago, is not a Milwauke or Sacramento. We have the third big market in the USA. Just imagine the damage that a Mark Cuban type of owner will do in Chicago.

I think the changes in the Bulls has to start with Jerry Reinsdorf, John Paxson and Gar Forman. Is to much mistakes and strikes out: T-Mac, Kobe, Pau Gasol (still on top of his game), KG, LeBron, Wade, Bosh. All of them are especulated here in Chicago and none of them come. Instead of that, we get Ron Mercer, Ben Wallace (a DPOY at the time but not what we looking for in 06. we need scoring back then - and now, by the way) and Carlos Boozer. And we lose Ben Gordon, Luol Deng and Kirk Hinrich (in 2010) for cap relief or for not go over the top (being cheap).

In the main time, the Lakers get Gasol, Dwight Howard (ok, just for one year, still they have the balls to try something) and keep Kobe. Miami get LeBron and Bosh. Knicks get Melo and Amare. New Jersey get Vince Carter. Dallas get Monta Ellis (not a superstar, but a great offensive player) Even the Raptors get a Rudy Gay type of player via trade.

What I want to say is: Gar, Pax and Reinsdorf doesn't have the balls to run a franchise in a big market city like Chicago. Is time to change everything.

Deng and Noah were two-time all stars in Chicago.

[TheStig]

Eh if there is no Melo for us, I say we sign Lance and push hard for Love.

[Michael Jackson]

It's amazing isn't. Westbrook has three surgeries on the same knee comes back fine no worries. Rose has one surgery with the same injury as Westbrook yet Rose is DONE. LOL

Not exactly apples to apples.

How so?

Westbrook and Rose both had MCL's which are less serious. Rose also had an acl. West rooks surgeries were just cleaning up his knee not additional injuries.