2019 Draft Thread Volume #6 - Post Lottery

[bad knees]

Trade down. Outside of Williamson, all of the lottery picks have unusually significant risks and red flags. Trade 7 and 38 to Boston for 14, 20 and 22. They may well be interested so they can offer whoever they draft at 7 to the Pels for AD.

[Chi town]

I think we'll get Culver and we'll sign a starting point guard in free agency with Dunn as the backup.

PG: Brogdon/Dunn
SG: Lavine/Culver
SF: Otto/Denzel/Hutch
PF: Lauri/FA
C: Wendell/FA or Lopez

I don’t see us drafting a wing and signing Brogdon. Brogdon can defend 1-3 and is a part time wing himself defensively.

Best for us would be Garland Brogdon.

I think there's a pretty low chance that we get Garland, Lakers like him and if they pass then the Suns won't.

All depends if we are ok giving up Hutch, Dunn, or 38. CLE makes too much sense. Dunn and 38 for Garland. CLE takes Reddish at 7. CLE is going nowhere so kicking the tires on Dunn makes a lot of sense.

[sco]

Sean Deveney of the Sporting News, citing NBA sources, reveals that Texas Tech guard Jarrett Culver will not drop past No. 7 in the next NBA Draft. The reporter identifies the New York Knicks (N0.3), Los Angeles Lakers (No.4) and the Cleveland Cavaliers (No.5) among the interested teams.
NBA Draft Rumors: Jarrett Culver will not drop past No. 7
Culver ended his sophomore season with the Red Raiders with averages of 18.5 points, 6.4 rebounds, 3.7 assist and 1.5 steals, shooting 52% from two points, 30% from long range and 70% from the foul line.
Before the unveiling of the lottery results, some scouts and personnel execs said that if the Hawks had won the No. 2 pick, they would focus on wing Jarrett Culver - and that the Cavaliers might have done the same, passing on outstanding guards Ja Morant and RJ Barrett.

Rumors have even cropped up about the Knicks considering Culver over Barrett with the No. 3 pick. At the least, the Knicks will weigh the option.

NBA DRAFT 2019: At least four teams exploring trading draft picks

At No. 5, though, there's a pretty good chance the Cavs can get their man, if the Lakers pass on him at No. 4 - though that is no guarantee. Culver had good numbers at the Chicago pre-draft combine, measuring 6-6.75 with a 6-9.5 wingspan.

The Hawks, having dropped to No. 8, have little chance of getting Culver without a trade up. According to sources around the league, Culver's floor - the lowest spot he'd be drafted - is the Bulls at No. 7.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-draft-2019-rumors-news-zion-williamson-agent-search-jarrett-culver-will-land/cj54bc7ppacr1o43wxer66kd7
https://sportando.basketball/en/nba-draft-rumors-jarrett-culver-will-not-drop-past-no-7/

I would cut a deal with Knicks - 7/38 for #3.

[Chi town]

If Bulls trade Dunn for Ball they save Lakers 5M.

I bet Vogel would like Dunn. I think Kidd was hired to mentor Ball though.

I could see us getting in 3 way with Lakers and Pels and somehow trading up to 4 to get Garland.

[NewEra21]

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Man he needs to get rid of that hitch in the shot.

Worst part isn’t how he brings the ball down instead up into his shooting pocket. I’ve said it before... his wide open 3s will really only be open 3s.

I really liked Culver first half of the season as he was killing it. He still finished the year strong, but the more i watched of him the more I got concerned with his shooting being issue. That hitch worries me. The dipping the ball down as you pointed worries me. Makes his whole jump shot really slow and as you said only effective when he is wide open.

Being that he is an advanced ball handler and decision maker, ideally he is your secondary creator and is able to have a pull up game. His shot mechanics dont allow for that at a high level.

[NewEra21]

Bulls should look to acquire a second first and pull the trigger on Bazley. Has the ideal physical profile with plus athleticism to play the 4 in today's league. Looks to be a pretty good ball handler for a guy his size as well. Size and athleticism allows him to get to the rim and finish very fluidly and creatively with either hand. (might be his most impressive trait). Jump shot looks like it could be good with time but will need to add range ideally. Turns 19 in June.

[Duke4life831]

Hoping De’Andre Hunter falls to #7...He’s definitely closer to being Kawhi than Little.

Little easily has more growth. Hunter is solid but will never be Kawhi like.

I don't think either will be Kawhi. But I think Hunter is probably the closest thing to Kawhi coming out of college since Kawhi. Both elite defenders with elite size for their position, Kawhi better at getting steals, while Hunter actually has the more advanced offensive game coming out of college.

I don't think either one of Hunter or Little become Kawhi because projecting Kawhi's improvement and progression in the pros for any NBA prospect would be dumb. Kawhi's progression is pretty rare.

[Chi town]

Man he needs to get rid of that hitch in the shot.

Worst part isn’t how he brings the ball down instead up into his shooting pocket. I’ve said it before... his wide open 3s will really only be open 3s.

I really liked Culver first half of the season as he was killing it. He still finished the year strong, but the more i watched of him the more I got concerned with his shooting being issue. That hitch worries me. The dipping the ball down as you pointed worries me. Makes his whole jump shot really slow and as you said only effective when he is wide open.

Being that he is an advanced ball handler and decision maker, ideally he is your secondary creator and is able to have a pull up game. His shot mechanics dont allow for that at a high level.

Maybe Otto can teach him how to shoot. Otto shot 30% from 3 as a frosh. I think Culver will iron his shot out and with less resp on offense he should blossom.

[R3AL1TY]

If the Lakers draft Reddish at 4, I think that will be a definite sign that the AD trade is happening.

No way Griffin in NOLA takes Reddish. He would take Garland at 4 and pair him with Zion. Holiday would be Garland’s mentor.

That just may be the case too, but I'm going by the hole in their 3 pt shooting at the SF spot + you got a guy in Reddish that has all the tools but just need the decision making and assertiveness to go with it. Plus, he already got some chemistry with Zion.

[Chi town]

If the Lakers draft Reddish at 4, I think that will be a definite sign that the AD trade is happening.

No way Griffin in NOLA takes Reddish. He would take Garland at 4 and pair him with Zion. Holiday would be Garland’s mentor.

That just may be the case too, but I'm going by the hole in their 3 pt shooting at the SF spot + you got a guy in Reddish that has all the tools but just need the decision making and assertiveness to go with it. Plus, he already got some chemistry with Zion.

Griffin is top 5 GM in the league. He won’t be suckered but reddish. He’d go Culver or Hunter before Reddish.

[Jcool0]

No way Griffin in NOLA takes Reddish. He would take Garland at 4 and pair him with Zion. Holiday would be Garland’s mentor.

That just may be the case too, but I'm going by the hole in their 3 pt shooting at the SF spot + you got a guy in Reddish that has all the tools but just need the decision making and assertiveness to go with it. Plus, he already got some chemistry with Zion.

Griffin is top 5 GM in the league. He won’t be suckered but reddish. He’d go Culver or Hunter before Reddish.

I guess really LeBron really is the goat to have made him a top 5 GM.

[Repeat 3-peat]

I keep reading on twitter from fans that the Bulls should take a wing to replace OPJ in 2 years, why would anyone think he can't be apart of the future of this team?

He is literally a perfect fit how this team is constructed. Also has the abilty to play the 4 when Lauri is at the 5. He keeps playing well he's going to be kept long term Imo.

[Chi town]

I keep reading on twitter from fans that the Bulls should take a wing to replace OPJ in 2 years, why would anyone think he can't be apart of the future of this team?

He is literally a perfect fit how this team is constructed. Also has the abilty to play the 4 when Lauri is at the 5. He keeps playing well he's going to be kept long term Imo.

Pax has said we are set 2-5. My guess is they trade up for Garland, stay put and take White if there, or trade the pick for a vet PG.

[Repeat 3-peat]

I keep reading on twitter from fans that the Bulls should take a wing to replace OPJ in 2 years, why would anyone think he can't be apart of the future of this team?

He is literally a perfect fit how this team is constructed. Also has the abilty to play the 4 when Lauri is at the 5. He keeps playing well he's going to be kept long term Imo.

Pax has said we are set 2-5. My guess is they trade up for Garland, stay put and take White if there, or trade the pick for a vet PG.

Have to hope that the reports of a promise isn't from LA, so a trade with Cleveland could maybe happen.

26 more days till the draft. A lot can happen.

[Dresden]

I keep reading on twitter from fans that the Bulls should take a wing to replace OPJ in 2 years, why would anyone think he can't be apart of the future of this team?

He is literally a perfect fit how this team is constructed. Also has the abilty to play the 4 when Lauri is at the 5. He keeps playing well he's going to be kept long term Imo.

Pax has said we are set 2-5. My guess is they trade up for Garland, stay put and take White if there, or trade the pick for a vet PG.

What Paxson said has very little impact on who we draft. We'll take the BPA, period. If it's close, and one is a pg, they'll get the nod. But otherwise, at that point in the draft you just look for talent and someone that can play in your system.

[Payt10]

I don't know if it's just me, but Coby White looks like the shortest 6'5 guy I have ever seen. He looks so tiny in all the highlights I've watched. I would have been less shocked to find out he was closer to 6'0.

[NDave79]

This isn't a 100 percent draft related, but enough imo (since we are debating point guards a lot here) that I preferred to post here than start a new thread.

I'm kinda confused what direction we want to go with PG.

On one hand there is all this talk about this new offense about the sharing of ball handling and creation. Boylen said his biggest regret of his rookie head coaching season was that he didn't incorporate the new system sooner. Lauri and Lavine seemed to thrive and for a stretch we had the best offense in the NBA according to certain stats.

Obviously Dunn struggled as would be expected as his offensive strengths relate to things he does with the ball in his hands (unfortunately, his strengths don't really justify catering your offense around him so far. He just hasn't been good enough to warrant that).

But Pax keeps talking about bringing in a PG that has the ability to find and pass the ball to our elite shooters; basically a guard that needs the ball in his hands to play to his strengths. There are rumors about Lonzo Ball and I get the feeling they were infatuated with Morant.

These guys need the ball in there hands to be effective, but Boylen talks about a system that is very different from a ball dominant PG system. I guess I'm just confused and it seems like maybe there isn't an exact consensus within the Bulls about the best way to go forward.

I'm a fan of the multiple ball handler system and feel like we have seen enough success (in the short span where we had some offensive success) to go forward down this path, but from interviews and stuff, Pax seems set on finding a traditional PG imo, even though he already played and had success in a multi ball handler system.

I feel like a player like with the theoretical skills of Garland would be ideal, but Pax talks like the Bulls need a more traditional elite passer like Ball or Morant. I guess, I feel like Boylen wants the off ball player and Pax wants the on ball player. Obviously, in perfect world you would get someone who excels at both, but that doesn't seem to be a realistic option.

What is our plan, lol?

[holv03]

Bulls could move up to 5th and draft Garland if the Lakers pick someone else.

[Chi town]

Bulls could move up to 5th and draft Garland if the Lakers pick someone else.

Was hoping you would drop this info on us. Tyrus said the same.

1. I think Garland will be there at 5 because Lakers want a player that can play right away and that is Culver or Hunter. Also think Kidd is there to groom Lonzo.

2. What would it cost Bulls to move up with CLE? Dunn and #38?

[bearadonisdna]

The bulls multi ball handler system predates Boylen