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[Jeffster81]

If he's truly available, we gotta go for him. Lauri + White + #4 + future 1st (s)? Then go find star #3 in FA.

Right now the Bulls are no position to acquire talents like Harden, nor do I want them to acquire a very expensive post 30 yr old ball dominant guard. Going for a guy like Paul is one thing but Harden....no.

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He’s ours.

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[rtblues]

Don't think that the Lakers should have given up their pick in the trade for Schroeder. In-fact, they may have been able to find a low-budget version of Schroeder at #28. Let's be honest, looking at Schroeder's stats and meh... Especially if you look at the advanced stats, he's pretty unreliable from 3 historically, with last season showing a slight uptick again, but especially on catch-and-shoot 3s, he's bad. Not really a facilitator either, but more of a shoot-first guy.

If you don't trust getting a worthy Rondo-Replacement, Schroeder-Alternative at 28, then maybe they could have waited and looked at other available trades. Just not sure on how and why they decided Schroeder was "their guy". Does he really give them the things that they're going to be lacking and looking for next season, a secondary distributor and more three-point shooting? Not sure they couldn't do better. And again, if it was Green straight-up for Schroeder, I'd be okay with that. That's just my thinking about trading 1st round picks. I still think that the #28 pick has value and may have filled the need in a better and cheaper way, and still looked for a deal for Green.

Conclusion: L.A. overpaid by including the #28 pick*

*Possibilities at 28 to fill the same need: Isaiah Joe, Malachi Flynn. Or to add shooting, maybe Killian Tillie, although his injury history is a bit dubious. Or Tyler Bey, who besides 3pt shooting, rebounds at a high rate. But, Schroeder he just "Ain't all dat"...

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Don't think that the Lakers should have given up their pick in the trade for Schroeder. In-fact, they may have been able to find a low-budget version of Schroeder at #28. Let's be honest, looking at Schroeder's stats and meh... Especially if you look at the advanced stats, he's pretty unreliable from 3 historically, with last season showing a slight uptick again, but especially on catch-and-shoot 3s, he's bad. Not really a facilitator either, but more of a shoot-first guy.

If you don't trust getting a worthy Rondo-Replacement, Schroeder-Alternative at 28, then maybe they could have waited and looked at other available trades. Just not sure on how and why they decided Schroeder was "their guy". Does he really give them the things that they're going to be lacking and looking for next season, a secondary distributor and more three-point shooting? Not sure they couldn't do better. And again, if it was Green straight-up for Schroeder, I'd be okay with that. That's just my thinking about trading 1st round picks. I still think that the #28 pick has value and may have filled the need in a better and cheaper way, and still looked for a deal for Green.

Conclusion: L.A. overpaid by including the #28 pick*

*Possibilities at 28 to fill the same need: Isaiah Joe, Malachi Flynn. Or to add shooting, maybe Killian Tillie, although his injury history is a bit dubious. Or Tyler Bey, who besides 3pt shooting, rebounds at a high rate. But, Schroeder he just "Ain't all dat"...

IDK, I think a vet in his prime is what they need to win now. Even the best rookies are not really going to help this year, and it's all about this year for the Lakers.

[FriedRise]

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[MisterRoy]

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[Southpaw]

Don't think that the Lakers should have given up their pick in the trade for Schroeder. In-fact, they may have been able to find a low-budget version of Schroeder at #28. Let's be honest, looking at Schroeder's stats and meh... Especially if you look at the advanced stats, he's pretty unreliable from 3 historically, with last season showing a slight uptick again, but especially on catch-and-shoot 3s, he's bad. Not really a facilitator either, but more of a shoot-first guy.

If you don't trust getting a worthy Rondo-Replacement, Schroeder-Alternative at 28, then maybe they could have waited and looked at other available trades. Just not sure on how and why they decided Schroeder was "their guy". Does he really give them the things that they're going to be lacking and looking for next season, a secondary distributor and more three-point shooting? Not sure they couldn't do better. And again, if it was Green straight-up for Schroeder, I'd be okay with that. That's just my thinking about trading 1st round picks. I still think that the #28 pick has value and may have filled the need in a better and cheaper way, and still looked for a deal for Green.

Conclusion: L.A. overpaid by including the #28 pick*

*Possibilities at 28 to fill the same need: Isaiah Joe, Malachi Flynn. Or to add shooting, maybe Killian Tillie, although his injury history is a bit dubious. Or Tyler Bey, who besides 3pt shooting, rebounds at a high rate. But, Schroeder he just "Ain't all dat"...

I have to disagree because they need players who can contribute now and Schroder fits that better than whoever they could've drafted at 28. Rookies usually don't contribute in the playoffs and it's in the back end of a weak draft as well.

[kodo]

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Excellent package who someone who generated no interest last season. Presti is still in my mind one of the best GMs in the league. He pumped the value on CP3 extremely well.

CP3's value was almost zilch over a year ago.

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[MGB8]

I think the Ricky Rubio / Oubre for CP3 trade explains why the (not very good) Schroeder trade was made.

Denny Green is near done and at 15M for this season is overpaid. The #28 has marginal value - barely better than a 2nd round pick - and this isn't a great draft. Dennis Schoeder, while an expiring, was the 2nd leading scorer on the Thunder (18.9 ppg, 22.1/36m), 2nd leading passer (4 apg) on high averages (47% overall, 39% from 3). While that's a jump up from his 44 and 34% career averages, it's not that unusual for guys to become somewhat better shooters as they age (until a certain point), and Schroeder just turned 27.

I still think that the Thunder could have gotten more (a higher first, in the 15 to early 20s) in return for Schroeder, either now or at the deadline.

But I could see Schroeder being somewhat bitter about Rubio being brought in to be the PG of the near term - so I get a desire to move him early. I also could see the Thunder viewing Danny Green as a "stable veteran presence" to help younger players develop.

[MGB8]

Don't think that the Lakers should have given up their pick in the trade for Schroeder. In-fact, they may have been able to find a low-budget version of Schroeder at #28. Let's be honest, looking at Schroeder's stats and meh... Especially if you look at the advanced stats, he's pretty unreliable from 3 historically, with last season showing a slight uptick again, but especially on catch-and-shoot 3s, he's bad. Not really a facilitator either, but more of a shoot-first guy.

If you don't trust getting a worthy Rondo-Replacement, Schroeder-Alternative at 28, then maybe they could have waited and looked at other available trades. Just not sure on how and why they decided Schroeder was "their guy". Does he really give them the things that they're going to be lacking and looking for next season, a secondary distributor and more three-point shooting? Not sure they couldn't do better. And again, if it was Green straight-up for Schroeder, I'd be okay with that. That's just my thinking about trading 1st round picks. I still think that the #28 pick has value and may have filled the need in a better and cheaper way, and still looked for a deal for Green.

Conclusion: L.A. overpaid by including the #28 pick*

*Possibilities at 28 to fill the same need: Isaiah Joe, Malachi Flynn. Or to add shooting, maybe Killian Tillie, although his injury history is a bit dubious. Or Tyler Bey, who besides 3pt shooting, rebounds at a high rate. But, Schroeder he just "Ain't all dat"...

IDK, I think a vet in his prime is what they need to win now. Even the best rookies are not really going to help this year, and it's all about this year for the Lakers.

Not to mention that no #28 pick rookie is going to give a team anything close to the 19 ppg or 4 apg that Schroeder brought to the Thunder. It's a terrible trade value wise; but I could see it as a chemistry move (though surprised that there wouldn't be someone else willing to provide a better asset in return - Minny; Boston; etc.).

[MrFortune3]

Hell of a trade for OKC. Damn. Oubre who fits with their rebuild and is young plus a likely 20ish pick and losing Paul's contract...

[Kurt Heimlich]

Presti is insane. He took Russell Westbrook who is now considered a bottom 5 NBA contract and turned him into 3 1sts, 2 pick swaps with a team heading down the toilet in Houston and a playoff run with CP3 not to mention Rubio and Oubre. And of course he also has their insane haul for Paul George. Their future picks list is hilarious and impressive.

[MrSparkle]

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Boy did the Rockets play their hand poorly.

I think Nets can pull it off. Honestly, if I was BRK, I'd send Kyrie out, keep Dinwiddie and LeVert. Their size and defense are better than Kyrie's cartwheels and drama, if you bring in a high-usage Harden.

[MisterRoy]

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Boy did the Rockets play their hand poorly.

I think Nets can pull it off. Honestly, if I was BRK, I'd send Kyrie out, keep Dinwiddie.

I think it depends on how Durant feels. Didn't he go to the Nets with Kyrie?

I do agree, though. Kyrie seems to keep teams from being a team.


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[DuckIII]

If he's truly available, we gotta go for him. Lauri + White + #4 + future 1st (s)? Then go find star #3 in FA.

Right now the Bulls are no position to acquire talents like Harden, nor do I want them to acquire a very expensive post 30 yr old ball dominant guard. Going for a guy like Paul is one thing but Harden....no.

1. I don’t see either the Bulls or Harden being interested in this.

2. If it happens, I won’t be able to watch games until he leaves the team. Unless he were to completely change his style of play, which he is clearly not the type to do.

[MrFortune3]

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Boy did the Rockets play their hand poorly.

I think Nets can pull it off. Honestly, if I was BRK, I'd send Kyrie out, keep Dinwiddie and LeVert. Their size and defense are better than Kyrie's cartwheels and drama, if you bring in a high-usage Harden.

KD wanted to team with Kyrie. No Kyrie, no KD.

I wanna see how the Nets pull this off. Though I get the feeling that he ends up with a different team.

[MrSparkle]

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Boy did the Rockets play their hand poorly.

I think Nets can pull it off. Honestly, if I was BRK, I'd send Kyrie out, keep Dinwiddie.

I think it depends on how Durant feels. Didn't he go to the Nets with Kyrie?

I do agree, though. Kyrie seems to keep teams from being a team.


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Ha yeah, the whole team recruited Kyrie (Dinwiddie too). I can't see into locker-rooms, but the fact that Kyrie skipped the bubble, threw more than half the team under the bus by saying they need more pieces, and despite being relatively healthy all year , only played 20 games... he just seems like a head-ache that'll sour on any new team.

[ImSlower]

I am absolutely all for getting all three of those guys on the Nets. I haven't had a team I could so openly loathe since - well, actually the last few years have had plenty of those in the sports I watch.

[Andi Obst]

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This is probably going to happen, but Scoop B is not a reliable source for anything. Waiting for the real reports on that.

[sco]

No way the Nets deal Kyrie, but they have a ton of young talent to make the deal..not sure how to make the $ work though.