2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added
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If Tari Eason is still there, better for us. We don't need to move any pieces to get the kid. As for poor workouts, I don't care. I saw too many actual in-game stuff that truly matter and I know what I observed.
Poor work out = bust?
Great work out = good player?
Doesn't work like that in my mind. Mark Price, Dennis Rodman, Ben Wallace, Jokic, Gilbert Arenas, and Kawhi (15th pick) would agree with me.
Poor work out = bust?
Great work out = good player?
Doesn't work like that in my mind. Mark Price, Dennis Rodman, Ben Wallace, Jokic, Gilbert Arenas, and Kawhi (15th pick) would agree with me.
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Eason’s shooting form does concern me a bit. If he’s been struggling from 3 in workouts, that’s not something I’d dismiss.
Getting him at 18 would be a great outcome though.
Getting him at 18 would be a great outcome though.
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AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:Eason’s shooting form does concern me a bit. If he’s been struggling from 3 in workouts, that’s not something I’d dismiss.
Getting him at 18 would be a great outcome though.
Do we really need to be drafting non-shooters when that is our biggest need after defense in the frontcourt? A tweener that can’t shoot is the last thing we need.
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WindyCityBorn wrote:AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:Eason’s shooting form does concern me a bit. If he’s been struggling from 3 in workouts, that’s not something I’d dismiss.
Getting him at 18 would be a great outcome though.
Do we really need to be drafting non-shooters when that is our biggest need after defense in the frontcourt? A tweener that can’t shoot is the last thing we need.
Our biggest need is BPA who is a two way guy regardless of height. Why are you talking about defense? You hate defense.
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AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:Eason’s shooting form does concern me a bit. If he’s been struggling from 3 in workouts, that’s not something I’d dismiss.
Getting him at 18 would be a great outcome though.
I wouldn't be concerned with him struggling hitting 3's. He CAN hit threes. It's all in his scouting videos. He knows how to draw fouls and hits 80% of his free throws.
I would be avoiding Tari at all cost if he couldn't dribble the basketball. If he couldn't split the defense or go iso then I wouldn't be talking about him.
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The Box Office wrote:AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:Eason’s shooting form does concern me a bit. If he’s been struggling from 3 in workouts, that’s not something I’d dismiss.
Getting him at 18 would be a great outcome though.
I wouldn't be concerned with him struggling hitting 3's. He CAN hit threes. It's all in his scouting videos. He knows how to draw fouls and hits 80% of his free throws.
I would be avoiding Tari at all cost if he couldn't dribble the basketball. If he couldn't split the defense or go iso then I wouldn't be talking about him.
He shot 35 percent on college 3s. His shooting is definitively a concern.
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WindyCityBorn wrote:The Box Office wrote:AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:Eason’s shooting form does concern me a bit. If he’s been struggling from 3 in workouts, that’s not something I’d dismiss.
Getting him at 18 would be a great outcome though.
I wouldn't be concerned with him struggling hitting 3's. He CAN hit threes. It's all in his scouting videos. He knows how to draw fouls and hits 80% of his free throws.
I would be avoiding Tari at all cost if he couldn't dribble the basketball. If he couldn't split the defense or go iso then I wouldn't be talking about him.
He shot 35 percent on college 3s. His shooting is definitively a concern.
Again, 80% free throw shooter. But hey, you're talking about offense again. That's more like it.
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The Box Office wrote:AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:Eason’s shooting form does concern me a bit. If he’s been struggling from 3 in workouts, that’s not something I’d dismiss.
Getting him at 18 would be a great outcome though.
I wouldn't be concerned with him struggling hitting 3's. He CAN hit threes. It's all in his scouting videos. He knows how to draw fouls and hits 80% of his free throws.
I would be avoiding Tari at all cost if he couldn't dribble the basketball. If he couldn't split the defense or go iso then I wouldn't be talking about him.
He slings the ball from his shoulder. That’s a tough shot to get off against NBA defenders. My guess is that if he’s going to become a guy who shoots off movement or in tight windows, he’ll have to rework that form.
And if he’s been struggling to hit 3s in empty gyms? Yeah that’s definitely something you factor into the eval.
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AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:The Box Office wrote:AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:Eason’s shooting form does concern me a bit. If he’s been struggling from 3 in workouts, that’s not something I’d dismiss.
Getting him at 18 would be a great outcome though.
I wouldn't be concerned with him struggling hitting 3's. He CAN hit threes. It's all in his scouting videos. He knows how to draw fouls and hits 80% of his free throws.
I would be avoiding Tari at all cost if he couldn't dribble the basketball. If he couldn't split the defense or go iso then I wouldn't be talking about him.
He slings the ball from his shoulder. That’s a tough shot to get off against NBA defenders. My guess is that if he’s going to become a guy who shoots off movement or in tight windows, he’ll have to rework that form.
If Tari is going to rework the form, it's something that looks so small to us, but it's actually a big deal. Personally, as long as he makes his shots then that's all that matters. I have all the confidence in the world because I looked at his first college season. He was abysmal 57%.
Then in his 2nd college year, he catapults to 80%. WTF
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Position versatility. I expect AKME to continue that approach.
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The Box Office wrote:AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:Eason’s shooting form does concern me a bit. If he’s been struggling from 3 in workouts, that’s not something I’d dismiss.
Getting him at 18 would be a great outcome though.
I wouldn't be concerned with him struggling hitting 3's. He CAN hit threes. It's all in his scouting videos. He knows how to draw fouls and hits 80% of his free throws.
I would be avoiding Tari at all cost if he couldn't dribble the basketball. If he couldn't split the defense or go iso then I wouldn't be talking about him.
This. Exactly.
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Eason and PW would have elite athleticism and size/length/strength on the frontline with alot of skill.
Biggest issue w Eason is inbetween the ears. I watched alot of his games and his IQ and motor are high but he gets down on himself and gets frustrated with teammates that don’t pass. His guards at LSU were awful. With a PG he would be a top 5 pick.
Any of Sochan Eason or Dieng at 18 would be a huge win. If they aren’t there I’d look to trade down.
deanondraft.com is super high on Wendell Moore with some great reasoning. Plug and play 2 way 3D. He’s our floor player after a trade back IMO.
Biggest issue w Eason is inbetween the ears. I watched alot of his games and his IQ and motor are high but he gets down on himself and gets frustrated with teammates that don’t pass. His guards at LSU were awful. With a PG he would be a top 5 pick.
Any of Sochan Eason or Dieng at 18 would be a huge win. If they aren’t there I’d look to trade down.
deanondraft.com is super high on Wendell Moore with some great reasoning. Plug and play 2 way 3D. He’s our floor player after a trade back IMO.
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JohnnyTapwater wrote:Position versatility. I expect AKME to continue that approach.
I believe the same too. I think it's very clear what type of player he's after. Just look at DJJ, Javonte, Ayo, TBJ, and of course PWill. He's basically going to draft those players, but either higher ceiling or higher floor. Same role, but looking to fill it with better talent.
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What an impressive kid. He's got the NBA body and then some. Good leaper. High motor. Very High BBIQ. Comes with 3 years experience in a tough league. He's ready to step in as a 3/4 off the bench in Year 1. Has enough of a jump shot that he won't be a black hole on offense. But obviously he would be a 4th or 5th option in his first couple of years. He has great switchability defensively. He can guard 1-4. Maybe even small ball Centers. After he gets his feet wet I can envision him in a defensive lineup of Ayo, Caruso, Ball, Patrick and Liddell. They'd smother teams that don't have a big "all league" center.
For me it's a matter of what fits us best. I think Kendall Brown has the athleticism to be a very good 3 & D wing. He's only 19. Tremendous leaper. Gets after it defensively. But realistically he'd probably barely get playing time in Year 1 unless we have another season of injuries and Covid cases.
Brown has a higher ceiling, but a lower floor. Liddell fits our time frame better with the current roster, and he comes with a higher floor for sure. But if Zach walks away we'd be in a rebuilding mode yet again. Then Brown would make more sense. Either guy though would make a nice addition to our roster. Just no Patrick Baldwin. Too un-athletic. I'm 65 years old and I probably have a higher vertical than he measured at the combine.
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Eason shot 80% from the line at high volume. On the basis of that alone, I think he certainly CAN become a solid enough shooter.
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This is my second favorite prospect for the Bulls. He reminds me of Iggy, but his shooting is already better.
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I understand that he's not a "sexy" pick because there's no chance of him being a superstar, but I see very little chance of EJ Liddell not turning into a useful rotation player. Picking 18th, it's hard to ask for much more. Watching the playoffs, I think I'd put him in the same level as Mark Williams (who might be a beast, but maybe more of a 82 games than a 16 games kinda player).
Even thought I'd draft Eason ahead of him, I believe his median outcome might be lower than Liddell's.
I'm early on my (very shallow) scouting, but from our range, I'm currently at 1- Eason, 2 - Liddell, 3 - Jalen Williams, 4 - Mark Williams
Even thought I'd draft Eason ahead of him, I believe his median outcome might be lower than Liddell's.
I'm early on my (very shallow) scouting, but from our range, I'm currently at 1- Eason, 2 - Liddell, 3 - Jalen Williams, 4 - Mark Williams
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It feels like EJ Liddell can have a Portis level impact.
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Pass on Liddell. You can sign a Daniel Theis with an exception if you want that.