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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#681 » by fleet » Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:29 pm

_txchilibowl_ wrote:Will Levis... C'MON DOWN!

Thats funny. I’d be terrified. Then again Justin terrifies me too. But I wonder if Levis is like a Tony Romo type of prospect. More likely, Jameis Winston, Wentz. I watch highlights and he does some damage with a nice release from the pocket and some escapability. Kiper’s number 1. I have a feeling the Colts are smoke-screening their interest in Stroud with the Levis leaks
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#682 » by chitownsports4ever » Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:39 pm

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Montgomery might seek $12 million annually, which is what running backs Aaron Jones (Packers) and Joe Mixon (Bengals) receive from their teams. That figure is tied for the seventh-highest annual salary for a running back. It would be a reasonable request from Montgomery, though the Bears might be more inclined to want to pay something like the $7 million annually that Leonard Fournette (Buccaneers) and James Conner (Cardinals) make. Those two running backs pull in the ninth-highest salaries at their position.


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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#683 » by fleet » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:12 pm

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Montgomery might seek $12 million annually, which is what running backs Aaron Jones (Packers) and Joe Mixon (Bengals) receive from their teams. That figure is tied for the seventh-highest annual salary for a running back. It would be a reasonable request from Montgomery, though the Bears might be more inclined to want to pay something like the $7 million annually that Leonard Fournette (Buccaneers) and James Conner (Cardinals) make. Those two running backs pull in the ninth-highest salaries at their position.


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I think he’s talking, but not correcting the figure with a figure. I wouldn’t sign him for much of anything. Second contract running backs drop like flies, and their are tons of good backs in this draft much cheaper than his lowest figure.
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#684 » by chitownsports4ever » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:30 pm

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I think he’s talking, but not correcting the figure with a figure. I wouldn’t sign him for much of anything. Second contract running backs drop like flies, and their are tons of good backs in this draft much cheaper than his lowest figure.


Nothing but speculation

Montgomery might seek $12 million annually, which is what running backs Aaron Jones (Packers) and Joe Mixon (Bengals) receive from their teams.



You dont think Monty and his agent knows there is a strong market for running backs this year why would he choose a number that would knock him off of most teams lists before free agency even began ? If he returns to the Bears it would be in the range of 6-8 million range which by the end of free agency wont even have him in the top in salary.

Dont know why we would waste a pick on a ANOTHER running back when we have so many holes and could simply use our huge cap space to throw a frontloaded contract at a good back who we know is also a capable blocker.
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#685 » by fleet » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:41 pm

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I think he’s talking, but not correcting the figure with a figure. I wouldn’t sign him for much of anything. Second contract running backs drop like flies, and their are tons of good backs in this draft much cheaper than his lowest figure.


Nothing but speculation

Montgomery might seek $12 million annually, which is what running backs Aaron Jones (Packers) and Joe Mixon (Bengals) receive from their teams.



You dont think Monty and his agent knows there is a strong market for running backs this year why would he choose a number that would knock him off of most teams lists before free agency even began ? If he returns to the Bears it would be in the range of 6-8 million range which by the end of free agency wont even have him in the top in salary.

Dont know why we would waste a pick on a ANOTHER running back when we have so many holes and could simply use our huge cap space to throw a frontloaded contract at a good back who we know is also a capable blocker.


Poles believes in building his team through the draft. Which is how most good teams are built. That’s why. Spending money on running backs is the most wasteful way to spend the cap. Especially a bad team that might get good by the time Montgomery’s body clock stops.

Priorities in free agency:

D line
O line
Receivers
Cornerback
Linebacker
U Tight End for 12 personnel


Veteran running back is gonna be last on the list if it is ever on the list. Other than SB.
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#686 » by _txchilibowl_ » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:47 pm

I wonder if Bijan Robinson is on their radar? I could see it if they traded down to a suitable draft slot. Probably the most dynamic offensive player they could draft.
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#687 » by fleet » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:49 pm

_txchilibowl_ wrote:I wonder if Bijan Robinson is on their radar? I could see it if they traded down to a suitable draft slot. Probably the most dynamic offensive player they could draft.

He would supercharge the offense. Play anywhere on the field. There isn’t a receiver in the draft that could help Fields as much. Gibbs seems like Dalvin Cook.
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#688 » by Jcool0 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:48 pm

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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#689 » by madvillian » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:48 am

_txchilibowl_ wrote:I wonder if Bijan Robinson is on their radar? I could see it if they traded down to a suitable draft slot. Probably the most dynamic offensive player they could draft.


I'm hoping he falls to Detroit at 18 personally. He's a dynamic player. Reminds me a bit of this years Kenneth Walker.
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#690 » by _txchilibowl_ » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:13 am

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_txchilibowl_ wrote:I wonder if Bijan Robinson is on their radar? I could see it if they traded down to a suitable draft slot. Probably the most dynamic offensive player they could draft.


I'm hoping he falls to Detroit at 18 personally. He's a dynamic player. Reminds me a bit of this years Kenneth Walker.



Has Detroit given up on Swift being a feature back? I always assumed it was health that was holding him back but maybe they prefer him in a more evenly distributed timeshare role.
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#691 » by madvillian » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:17 am

_txchilibowl_ wrote:
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_txchilibowl_ wrote:I wonder if Bijan Robinson is on their radar? I could see it if they traded down to a suitable draft slot. Probably the most dynamic offensive player they could draft.


I'm hoping he falls to Detroit at 18 personally. He's a dynamic player. Reminds me a bit of this years Kenneth Walker.



Has Detroit given up on Swift being a feature back? I always assumed it was health that was holding him back but maybe they prefer him in a more evenly distributed timeshare role.


That is a good question. I think they have. I think Campbell and Deuce soured on him in the 2nd half of the year. He will make an absolutely amazing play but then fail to make the basic run to get a 1st down in short yardage when the cut was there to make.

They have a decision on Williams as well. If they let him go, they def need to draft a RB.
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#692 » by CjayC » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:34 am

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If they're THAT sure of 'their' guy that they trade Fields, they need to take him #1. God I hate this time of the year. Most likely Poles or someone in the organization floating this out there to inflate the value of the #1 pick.
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Post#693 » by fleet » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:17 pm

If you want to get very exited about drafting Jalen Carter, listen to these PFF guys talk about him 50:50.

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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#694 » by madvillian » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:27 pm

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_txchilibowl_ wrote:Will Levis... C'MON DOWN!

Thats funny. I’d be terrified. Then again Justin terrifies me too. But I wonder if Levis is like a Tony Romo type of prospect. More likely, Jameis Winston, Wentz. I watch highlights and he does some damage with a nice release from the pocket and some escapability. Kiper’s number 1. I have a feeling the Colts are smoke-screening their interest in Stroud with the Levis leaks


He reminds me of Wentz. A guy the draftniks will fall in love with because of all the measurables. Big guy, big arm, fast for his size. Personally I think it's crazy to have Levis ahead of Stroud or Young given production, but there's always the QB some coaches and scouts think is a lump of clay they can mold into a MVP type.
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#695 » by fleet » Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:46 pm

Bears may have less money to spend that thought

OverTheCap.com came through with an update to their 2023 Bears projected salary cap. But before we get to it, let be warned: The Bears are expected to have much *LESS* cap space than previously forecasted ($110-$120M!). They still have the *MOST* cap space in the league. By far. They just won’t wind up in triple digits, as we expected.

OverTheCap.com’s most recent estimates have the Bears at $92,033,199 under the projected salary cap for 2023.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2023/01/27/the-chicago-bears-actually-have-a-lot-less-cap-space-than-initially-projected/
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#696 » by dice » Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:26 am

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I think he’s talking, but not correcting the figure with a figure. I wouldn’t sign him for much of anything. Second contract running backs drop like flies, and their are tons of good backs in this draft much cheaper than his lowest figure.

pff's top 20 RBs heading into this season along with their ages:

23 taylor
27 chubb
28 henry
26 mccaffrey
27 cook

27 kamara
28 jones
27 ekeler
26 mixon
24 jacobs

24 harris
22 j. williams
25 barkley
27 carson
27 elliott

27 conner
25 harris
25 sanders
25 monty
25 singletary

average age a shade under 26. players tend to start their 2nd contract in their age 26 season. not a single player on the list over age 28. so it can be expected that a RB will be fading away by the end of contract #2, but you should also get 2 peak years out of them. what that's worth is obviously situational and debatable
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#697 » by Bandit King » Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:04 am

Don't be disappointed if they select the better passer in Bryce Young then trade Fields to some team like the redskins. Justin fans forget he was poor at passing the ball and his oline was not that bad as the rest of the NFL, plus they gave him decent receivers wiith Claypool and Mooney. It is a fact they need a speedy or another tall WR to help whoever is QB this year.

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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#698 » by Dresden » Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:22 am

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Michael Jackson wrote:Rumors have it that Purdy is the guy going forward.... What is trading Trey Lance worth for SF?


San Fran cannot be that stupid to even remotely entertain the idea that Nick Foles 2 (aka Brock Purdy) is the guy going forward? Best thing for San Fran is to trade Purdy while he has value.


Then I think SF probably is that stupid, because the vast majority of people in SF think Purdy is better than either Jimmy G or Trey Lance. Most likely scenario is that Jimmy leaves, and they let Purdy and Trey battle it out next season. And that's a battle Purdy will easily win, IMO. So Purdy will have at least one more full year to prove himself. If he starts to unravel, they have Trey waiting in the wings. If he continues to win, they'd likely start listening to offers for Trey. Although it would not shock me if he was dealt this off season, if some team is willing to give up a FRP for him.
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#699 » by Dresden » Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:25 am

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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Future Bears RT McGlinchey here :lol:

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Says more about Parsons, but damn.

Orlando Brown gets some crap, but I think he's probably the top tackle out there.

Not opposed to not signing a top tackle though (maybe land a cheaper established vet in the interior of the O-Line instead). And then we draft a tackle in the 2nd or top of the 3rd.


It's one play. That would be like showing a video of Justin Fields throwing a pass into the back of a teammates helmet and saying "and this is your franchise QB?". McGlinchey got off balance and Parsons threw him. McGlinchey overall has had a solid year and a solid career. Bears would be lucky to get him.
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Re: Bears: 1st pick in 23 draft 

Post#700 » by Dresden » Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:29 am

molepharmer wrote:I would prioritize center over tackle, but that's just me. Having d-linemen come up the middle unblocked, thanks to Mustipher's complete incompetence, was a nightmare. I'm not sure there's much FA wise for center. Supposedly the draft has some decent center prospects in rounds 2-4, though I know one prospect (Georgia's ???) decided to stay in school another year.


I would prioritize just about the whole O line, and I would rather do it in FA than via the draft, although getting a good young lineman to develop in rounds 3-5 would be fine, too. But I would hope they can pick up several O line pieces in FA, so they have some veterans in there that know what they are doing and can protect Justin this year.

The only O lineman that seems like a for sure keeper is Teven. Everyone else is a question mark. Although I guess if he's healthy, and won't break the bank, then bringing back Whitehair seems like a pretty reasonable thing to do.

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