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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#701 » by dice » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:38 am

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dice wrote:i do think that popovich might have hired her not entirely based on her merits as a coach. he's a progressive guy and seems to enjoy rocking the boat of tradition. plus, he knows that the culture that he has in place in san antonio insulates her to some degree. she is getting more latitude to prove herself there than she would anywhere else in the league


She got hired just to be an assistant coach. I'm not sure you would think she was unqualified for an entry level coaching position after having a HOF type career in the WNBA and college basketball playing as a PG (which typically is the more cerebral position on the floor), especially as one whom didn't blow you away with athleticism.

I would think it's fairly common for people to have any type of general experience with basketball as a gateway to that job. She's since been promoted to Spurs lead assistant. One would think that's because she's done a good job while there and isn't for show (as there's really no reason to do that for show).

I still agree with everything else you said outside of merit though. I do think it's a move a lot of other people wouldn't have wanted to risk regardless of her merits.

i didn't say she was unqualified. i said that that might not have been the entirety of the basis for her hire. there are countless similarly qualified individuals (more so if you consider playing mens basketball at a high level more of a qualification for coaching mens basketball)
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#702 » by dice » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:31 am

harden 1 for 17 from 3 pt range in loss to cp3. meanwhile, ben simmons has best game of his career in carving up dinwiddie and the nets
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#703 » by Dresden » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:51 am

Michael Porter Jr had another type of game tonight that reminds people why he was once so highly thought of- 20/14/4 in 30 minutes on 7/12 shooting, going 4/8 on 3's. He's exactly the type of player the Bulls should have taken a chance on, rather than playing it safe with Wendell Carter.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#704 » by MrFortune3 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:03 am

dice wrote:harden 1 for 17 from 3 pt range in loss to cp3. meanwhile, ben simmons has best game of his career in carving up dinwiddie and the nets


The Rockets keep trying to mesh ball dominant players with Harden and it's not going to work.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#705 » by MrFortune3 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:04 am

Dresden wrote:Michael Porter Jr had another type of game tonight that reminds people why he was once so highly thought of- 20/14/4 in 30 minutes on 7/12 shooting, going 4/8 on 3's. He's exactly the type of player the Bulls should have taken a chance on, rather than playing it safe with Wendell Carter.


Wouldn't matter. This FO does not do well with that type of player.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#706 » by jc23 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:59 am

this is around the time of year lebron tends to put it into cruise control. I can see the lakers dropping out of the top 4 in the west at some point.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#707 » by Ice Man » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:10 pm

dice wrote:meanwhile, ben simmons has best game of his career in carving up dinwiddie and the nets


He's been freed from the shackles of Joel Embiid. What a shame that duo is, each genuinely great players, but they also each make the other worse.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#708 » by DASMACKDOWN » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:32 pm

The Lakers better leave my D-Rose alone.

They dont have anything to trade unless its Kuz and the Lakers wont do that. The Sixers don't have much to offer either.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#709 » by MrFortune3 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:15 pm

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dice wrote:meanwhile, ben simmons has best game of his career in carving up dinwiddie and the nets


He's been freed from the shackles of Joel Embiid. What a shame that duo is, each genuinely great players, but they also each make the other worse.


They don't make each other worse but their game is not complimentary of one another. They don't play off one another well.
But most of that is due to them making Embiid shoot 3's and SImmons being poor at it.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#710 » by Ice Man » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:27 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:They don't make each other worse but their game is not complimentary of one another. They don't play off one another well. But most of that is due to them making Embiid shoot 3's and SImmons being poor at it.


Also, there's room down low for Simmons with Embiid gone, and SImmons is an absurdly good post scorer.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#711 » by SfBull » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:48 pm

Dresden wrote:Michael Porter Jr had another type of game tonight that reminds people why he was once so highly thought of- 20/14/4 in 30 minutes on 7/12 shooting, going 4/8 on 3's. He's exactly the type of player the Bulls should have taken a chance on, rather than playing it safe with Wendell Carter.

Our conservative FO wouldn't take that risk.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

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Post#713 » by MrSparkle » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:51 pm

I’d love to see MIL figure out a way to bring Rose. They have enough deep bench salaries to do it with a 1st pick - something like Bender and Connaughton.

It’d be such a golden scenario cause we could possibly catch him in a finals game at the Forum. Bucks would have to put a ban on Bulls #1 jerseys though.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#714 » by jc23 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:16 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:The Lakers better leave my D-Rose alone.

They dont have anything to trade unless its Kuz and the Lakers wont do that. The Sixers don't have much to offer either.


Derrick went from having a nice stint in New York to playing poorly alongside lebron and since has got his groove back in Minny and Detroit. I dont think it will happen, i do want him on a contender tho. It would be exciting to see Derrick in games that matter again.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#715 » by Ice Man » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:26 pm

jc23 wrote:Derrick went from having a nice stint in New York to playing poorly alongside lebron and since has got his groove back in Minny and Detroit. I dont think it will happen, i do want him on a contender tho. It would be exciting to see Derrick in games that matter again.


Rose played better in NY than he did for us post-injury, but he wasn't really good. This year he truly is. It would not be a joke to put him on the All-Star team. The man is averaging 25/8 per 36 on 56.5% TS%. By way of comparison, Zach is 26/4 on 57.0%.

He's back to bricking his 3s, though, which doesn't surprise me, because few veterans significantly improves their 3-point game. Which makes Derrick's achievement that much more impressive, as he is basically match Zach's scoring numbers while only making 31% of his 3 point attempts.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#716 » by Ugly Duckling » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:21 pm

Gotta say, you guys were right about MPJ. I def saw his talent and upside, but the back surgery and subsequent med report were scary. Damn I wish we took a flier on him. We could've gotten rid of Lauri's weak ass
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#717 » by fleet » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:59 pm

So Michael Porter Jr. Yeah.......
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#718 » by AKfanatic » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:59 pm

Ugly Duckling wrote:Gotta say, you guys were right about MPJ. I def saw his talent and upside, but the back surgery and subsequent med report were scary. Damn I wish we took a flier on him. We could've gotten rid of Lauri's weak ass


I’m with ya, I saw the talent also and was extremely concerned with his injury history. Honestly, his injury history still scares me. I hope he can stay healthy and continue to play well, but I wouldn’t be sold on him until he’s played multiple healthy seasons.

It’s nice to see the Nuggets succeed as I’ve had a soft spot for them since the Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (Chris Jackson), McDyess, Mutumbo days... as a kid I loved the Lever/English Nugz. It’s nice to see them finding talent.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#719 » by fleet » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:01 pm

Ugly Duckling wrote:Gotta say, you guys were right about MPJ. I def saw his talent and upside, but the back surgery and subsequent med report were scary. Damn I wish we took a flier on him. We could've gotten rid of Lauri's weak ass

Hey some folks made fun of his talent against shorties in HS, at least you didn’t. The thing is, we got “The promise”, out of little league state.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#720 » by dumbell78 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:12 am

I was one of the vocal guys in the draft thread that wanted no part of MPJ. I wasn't sold and if I'm proven wrong then so be it.

I will say he went to a perfect spot to come along slowly and be mentored with the right amount of talent, coaching, vet leadership etc. No way that happens here with the likes of Hoiberg and Jimbo, with the GarPax FO. Denver and MPJ were made for each other. Denver could afford to take a swing on him and bring him along slowly, they are already a solid playoff team. He could take his sweet time and find some health and his groove. None of that happens here and we probably are hating on him because of it.
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