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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#701 » by Chi town » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:24 am

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Chi town wrote:We play Saints?


Yep. Don't like our odds lol, but better than matching up with Rodgers. This was probably (and hilariously) the best outcome for the Bears.


Brees is fragile. We have to dial up the pressure. We need Jaylon Johnson and Roquan healthy
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Post#702 » by Kurt Heimlich » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:26 am

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Chi town wrote:We play Saints?


Yep. Don't like our odds lol, but better than matching up with Rodgers. This was probably (and hilariously) the best outcome for the Bears.


Brees is fragile. We have to dial up the pressure. We need Jaylon Johnson and Roquan healthy


Yep there is a glimmer of hope in this matchup vs the dark and endless void that is any matchup of the Bears vs Aaron Rodgers.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#703 » by fleet » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:27 am

I guess we need a game thread for the playoffs. Boy this defense is basically on skates for 5 or 6 weeks. I can’t remember.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#704 » by Susan » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:28 am

https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/article_58632c90-4c85-11eb-9e9a-6bbf43f5184a.html

The reason why Kamara's timeline is "a minimum of 10 days" rather than simply 10 days hinges on the presence of symptoms. If Kamara remains asymptomatic, the 10-day calendar is simply that. However, if Kamara displays symptoms, he could be unavailable for longer, depending on how long those symptoms last.

If Kamara presents symptoms, he would not only need to be away from the team for 10 days, but he would also need to be fever-free for 24 hours before returning to team activities.

Barring a setback, the first day Kamara could return to the team is Jan. 10, which is the Sunday of wild card weekend.


Let's see what they announce.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#705 » by Payt10 » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:32 am

Had Nagy stuck with the same offense he had been running the last few weeks, I would have been fine keeping him, but after seeing him go back to the 2019 ultra conservative offense in this Packers game, and getting blown out AGAIN, I'm ready to move on from everybody.

Mitch just isn't a good quarterback. He can be average under the right system, but Nagy is hell bent on running the KC offense, which doesn't suit his play style.

They're going to be stuck with this same group next year, and it's going to suck.
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Post#706 » by Chi town » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:33 am

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Post#707 » by Susan » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:34 am

Payt10 wrote:Had Nagy stuck with the same offense he had been running the last few weeks, I would have been fine keeping him, but after seeing him go back to the 2019 ultra conservative offense in this Packers game, and getting blown out AGAIN, I'm ready to move on from everybody.

Mitch just isn't a good quarterback. He can be average under the right system, but Nagy is hell bent on running the KC offense, which doesn't suit his play style.

They're going to be stuck with this same group next year, and it's going to suck.


They ran that ball 31 times.

That's VERY different than what they were doing before.

D-Line got pressure, they moved the ball well and were marching but it just slipped out of their grasp. We've got another week to keep rolling, Saints might be without Kamara.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#708 » by Chi town » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:35 am

Payt10 wrote:Had Nagy stuck with the same offense he had been running the last few weeks, I would have been fine keeping him, but after seeing him go back to the 2019 ultra conservative offense in this Packers game, and getting blown out AGAIN, I'm ready to move on from everybody.

Mitch just isn't a good quarterback. He can be average under the right system, but Nagy is hell bent on running the KC offense, which doesn't suit his play style.

They're going to be stuck with this same group next year, and it's going to suck.


That's where I'm at too. I'd clean house. We still have lots of weapons. See if you can make a move for Stafford.
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Post#709 » by chicagoballer » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:35 am

Payt10 wrote:Had Nagy stuck with the same offense he had been running the last few weeks, I would have been fine keeping him, but after seeing him go back to the 2019 ultra conservative offense in this Packers game, and getting blown out AGAIN, I'm ready to move on from everybody.

Mitch just isn't a good quarterback. He can be average under the right system, but Nagy is hell bent on running the KC offense, which doesn't suit his play style.

They're going to be stuck with this same group next year, and it's going to suck.


For me, Pace has to go. Nagy/Trubisky fates are intertwined for me. I would not let a new coach teach tru a new system, too much time lost. I would also not let Nagy work with a new QB. I think I let the new GM decide whether they want to keep Nagy/Trubisky and let them make the decision via consulting people much more knowledgeable about football than me/us.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#710 » by Chi town » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:35 am

What a throw by Tannehill!
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#712 » by Chi town » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:39 am

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Post#713 » by Kurt Heimlich » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:39 am

Payt10 wrote:Had Nagy stuck with the same offense he had been running the last few weeks, I would have been fine keeping him, but after seeing him go back to the 2019 ultra conservative offense in this Packers game, and getting blown out AGAIN, I'm ready to move on from everybody.

Mitch just isn't a good quarterback. He can be average under the right system, but Nagy is hell bent on running the KC offense, which doesn't suit his play style.

They're going to be stuck with this same group next year, and it's going to suck.


I honestly hope not. It's so blatantly obvious Ryan Pace cannot be trusted to be the decision maker of your high end draft assets, especially when you need to fill the most important single position in sports. Everyone knows he literally made the biggest blunder in modern draft history in trying to fill that aforementioned QB position. It's just so obvious it will be legitimate tragic comedy if he isn't replaced. It's shades of the dead era of GarPax every moment that Pace retains his position once this season ends.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#714 » by fleet » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:40 am

Payt10 wrote:Had Nagy stuck with the same offense he had been running the last few weeks, I would have been fine keeping him, but after seeing him go back to the 2019 ultra conservative offense in this Packers game, and getting blown out AGAIN, I'm ready to move on from everybody.

Mitch just isn't a good quarterback. He can be average under the right system, but Nagy is hell bent on running the KC offense, which doesn't suit his play style.

They're going to be stuck with this same group next year, and it's going to suck.

The better teams are probably always gonna be able to let Mitch complete his little passes and keep the Bears offense in check. Unless the Bears completely overperform in the running game.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#715 » by Susan » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:41 am

chicagoballer wrote:
Payt10 wrote:Had Nagy stuck with the same offense he had been running the last few weeks, I would have been fine keeping him, but after seeing him go back to the 2019 ultra conservative offense in this Packers game, and getting blown out AGAIN, I'm ready to move on from everybody.

Mitch just isn't a good quarterback. He can be average under the right system, but Nagy is hell bent on running the KC offense, which doesn't suit his play style.

They're going to be stuck with this same group next year, and it's going to suck.


For me, Pace has to go. Nagy/Trubisky fates are intertwined for me. I would not let a new coach teach tru a new system, too much time lost. I would also not let Nagy work with a new QB. I think I let the new GM decide whether they want to keep Nagy/Trubisky and let them make the decision via consulting people much more knowledgeable about football than me/us.


Montgomery, Kmet and Mooney are all looking like studs. Bars and Mustipher were UDFA brought in by Pace. Graham is washed but he had a freaking ton of TDs and helped pave the way for Kmet. Mingo and Jaylon Johnson were good to great pickups as well.

Another offseason like that (we'll have our 1st rounder again) and things keep going in the right direction.

Montgomery/Cohen is going to be dynamic, we just need a bridge QB. This situation is significantly better than Philly or the Rams situation.
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Post#716 » by chicagoballer » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:47 am

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Montgomery, Kmet and Mooney are all looking like studs. Bars and Mustipher were UDFA brought in by Pace. Graham is washed but he had a freaking ton of TDs and helped pave the way for Kmet. Mingo and Jaylon Johnson were good to great pickups as well.

Another offseason like that (we'll have our 1st rounder again) and things keep going in the right direction.

Montgomery/Cohen is going to be dynamic, we just need a bridge QB. This situation is significantly better than Philly or the Rams situation.


you are bound to have some good moves, but his negative moves outweigh the positive ones. Kmet is ok for a second round pick... He has less than 300 yards on the year. Montgomery is finally having a good stretch, but still need to see consistency. Mooney is a value grab, but not a star. No one who will alter your trajectory as a team. The large defensive contracts will come back to bite you. I made a list of his errors a few weeks back on this thread.
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Post#717 » by fleet » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:51 am

One thing you don’t want Pace doing. 2 things really, draft in the first round, and make a quarterback decision. Those are priority skills for the job he does not have. Find players in the middle rounds? Again, and we keep having to mention this, all teams do that, or most teams have, you know, found players after round 1.
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Post#718 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:51 am

Payt10 wrote:Had Nagy stuck with the same offense he had been running the last few weeks, I would have been fine keeping him, but after seeing him go back to the 2019 ultra conservative offense in this Packers game, and getting blown out AGAIN, I'm ready to move on from everybody.

Mitch just isn't a good quarterback. He can be average under the right system, but Nagy is hell bent on running the KC offense, which doesn't suit his play style.

They're going to be stuck with this same group next year, and it's going to suck.


I think the personnel just isn’t good enough, and that’s on Pace.

I would like to fire Pace, draft a new QB this draft, and start over. I’m on the fence on Nagy, the play calling is junk sometimes, but his record is pretty solid. It’s kind of like Maddon when he led the Cubs, some of the day to day decisions were questionable, but he did the behind the scenes stuff pretty well and big picture stuff really well, and that matters.

If you fire Nagy, make sure you have a head coach lined up that will be better. And that’s hard to do. Everyone was waiting for Lovie to get fired, and he got replaced with a decade of junk.
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Post#719 » by Chi town » Mon Jan 4, 2021 12:59 am

I think Nagy is a good HC that hasn't had a QB and has had to coach around it. Nagy with a QB and the Bears are on the right track He never chose Mitch. Pace drafted Mitch before Nagy arrived.

I'd like to see a new GM that wants to keep Nagy and find a QB. I want that QB to play early like Watson.
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Post#720 » by Susan » Mon Jan 4, 2021 1:05 am

fleet wrote:One thing you don’t want Pace doing. 2 things really, draft in the first round, and make a quarterback decision. Those are priority skills for the job he does not have. Find players in the middle rounds? Again, and we keep having to mention this, all teams do that, or most teams have, you know, found players after round 1.


Roquan is a pro bowl level player.
Leonard Floyd just had a 9.5 sack season, he struggled with injuries here and was a good starter in his time.
Mitch isn't Johnny Manziel, he's won a lot of games as a QB
Kevin White was destroyed by injuries.

The QB he drafted is a flawed starter but somebody you can win with. He's got no crazy longterm contracts at the QB position.

Look at the rest of the NFL - Baker Mayfield is in Mitch's tier (drafted 1st overall), there's COUNTLESS QBs who aren't franchise QBs and there's plenty of QBs getting paid big money to produce at roughly Mitch's level.

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