Way too early NBA draft thread 2021

[TheSuzerain]

Some mocks are updating in advance of the Tourney. FoxSports now has Josh Giddey going #12 - to the Bulls. 6’8 point forward it says. In my view that’s basically exactly what the Bulls need.

I think I may irrationally and with virtually no scouting just go all in on Giddey and declare him my draft boo.

P.S. This mock has some outlier entries, such as Ayo going 8th.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.foxsports.com/stories/nba/mock-draft-jalen-green-cade-cunningham-evan-mobley-jalen-suggs-jason-mcintrye

I'm right there with you. Based on that video, he looks more intriguing than anyone we've drafted in years. I'm all in. At 6'8" he theoretically fits in perfectly with a Zach/Coby backcourt. Big enough to defend three's, while being talented enough to take the ball-handling duties away from White. That's exactly what we need.

The insistence people have in starting Coby despite him being probably the worst player in the rotation is so bizarre to me.

[HomoSapien]

Some mocks are updating in advance of the Tourney. FoxSports now has Josh Giddey going #12 - to the Bulls. 6’8 point forward it says. In my view that’s basically exactly what the Bulls need.

I think I may irrationally and with virtually no scouting just go all in on Giddey and declare him my draft boo.

P.S. This mock has some outlier entries, such as Ayo going 8th.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.foxsports.com/stories/nba/mock-draft-jalen-green-cade-cunningham-evan-mobley-jalen-suggs-jason-mcintrye

I'm right there with you. Based on that video, he looks more intriguing than anyone we've drafted in years. I'm all in. At 6'8" he theoretically fits in perfectly with a Zach/Coby backcourt. Big enough to defend three's, while being talented enough to take the ball-handling duties away from White. That's exactly what we need.

The insistence people have in starting Coby despite him being probably the worst player in the rotation is so bizarre to me.

That doesn't apply to me. I'm not insisting on keeping him or starting him. But if we're trying to build with him as part of the team (early reports were that AK was a big fan) then that's the way to do it. I will say that I think he can develop into a useful scorer if the PG duties are almost completely eliminated from his game.

[TheSuzerain]

I'm right there with you. Based on that video, he looks more intriguing than anyone we've drafted in years. I'm all in. At 6'8" he theoretically fits in perfectly with a Zach/Coby backcourt. Big enough to defend three's, while being talented enough to take the ball-handling duties away from White. That's exactly what we need.

The insistence people have in starting Coby despite him being probably the worst player in the rotation is so bizarre to me.

That doesn't apply to me. I'm not insisting on keeping him or starting him. But if we're trying to build with him as part of the team (early reports were that AK was a big fan) then that's the way to do it. I will say that I think he can develop into a useful scorer if the PG duties are almost completely eliminated from his game.

Unless AK is an idiot (and I'm hopeful he's not), we are not building with Coby White.

I don't really care what he said at a press conference or about this song and dance with starting the young core together. The results of that lineup speak for itself.

[qianlong]

Cooper. These videos of playmakers make me sad.

And Mobley has bust written all over him. I don’t like the way his free throws hit the back of the rim before going in.

Mobley is pretty special. His quickness and handles for his size is impressive, great touch and already has that fadeaway. Elite defender, great passer for a 7 footer. Nothing he can’t do really.

Only one big has had better defensive metrics than him, which was Anthony Davis. Better than Embiid, JJJ, etc.

Good write up and analysis.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nba/2021/1/13/22226644/2021-nba-draft-evan-mobley-usc

mobley la a franchise player in the making. It will take some years but he is impressive.
Giddey looks good from those highlights.

[TheSuzerain]

I like Giddey, but 12 is creeping up a bit high for my taste.

[HouseOfLight]

The insistence people have in starting Coby despite him being probably the worst player in the rotation is so bizarre to me.

That doesn't apply to me. I'm not insisting on keeping him or starting him. But if we're trying to build with him as part of the team (early reports were that AK was a big fan) then that's the way to do it. I will say that I think he can develop into a useful scorer if the PG duties are almost completely eliminated from his game.

Unless AK is an idiot (and I'm hopeful he's not), we are not building with Coby White.

I don't really care what he said at a press conference or about this song and dance with starting the young core together. The results of that lineup speak for itself.

You've been warned about insulting posters. Get it together. -Ashy.

[HomoSapien]

The insistence people have in starting Coby despite him being probably the worst player in the rotation is so bizarre to me.

That doesn't apply to me. I'm not insisting on keeping him or starting him. But if we're trying to build with him as part of the team (early reports were that AK was a big fan) then that's the way to do it. I will say that I think he can develop into a useful scorer if the PG duties are almost completely eliminated from his game.

Unless AK is an idiot (and I'm hopeful he's not), we are not building with Coby White.

I don't really care what he said at a press conference or about this song and dance with starting the young core together. The results of that lineup speak for itself.

I think most people here actually overwhelmingly agree that Coby's hurt us a bunch this season and that his future as a primary ball-handler is bleak. I also think that most people would be very open to parting with him in a trade. That said, I think that there's also a group of people who okay being patient with a 20-year-old who clearly still needs to learn how to play. As a 7th pick he's a little disappointing, but if he can become a more consistent scorer/shooter then it's not too hard envisioning him become a Jason Terry type, and that in itself has value for us.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Oklahoma State vs Baylor in the Big 12 semi is on ESPN today.

This could be our last look at Cade in college bc OKST is barred from this year’s NCAA tourney? Do I have that right?

[Dan Z]

That doesn't apply to me. I'm not insisting on keeping him or starting him. But if we're trying to build with him as part of the team (early reports were that AK was a big fan) then that's the way to do it. I will say that I think he can develop into a useful scorer if the PG duties are almost completely eliminated from his game.

Unless AK is an idiot (and I'm hopeful he's not), we are not building with Coby White.

I don't really care what he said at a press conference or about this song and dance with starting the young core together. The results of that lineup speak for itself.

I think most people here actually overwhelmingly agree that Coby's hurt us a bunch this season and that his future as a primary ball-handler is bleak. I also think that most people would be very open to parting with him in a trade. That said, I think that there's also a group of people who okay being patient with a 20-year-old who clearly still needs to learn how to play. As a 7th pick he's a little disappointing, but if he can become a more consistent scorer/shooter then it's not too hard envisioning him become a Jason Terry type, and that in itself has value for us.

You can't just look at him as being the 7th pick because you have to take that specific draft into account. Who should the Bulls have drafted in 2019 over White?

He's been streaky so I can understand why the opinion on him has been divided. Overall I think he's done well for a 20 year old and would like to see him continue to develop here in Chicago.

[HomoSapien]

Unless AK is an idiot (and I'm hopeful he's not), we are not building with Coby White.

I don't really care what he said at a press conference or about this song and dance with starting the young core together. The results of that lineup speak for itself.

I think most people here actually overwhelmingly agree that Coby's hurt us a bunch this season and that his future as a primary ball-handler is bleak. I also think that most people would be very open to parting with him in a trade. That said, I think that there's also a group of people who okay being patient with a 20-year-old who clearly still needs to learn how to play. As a 7th pick he's a little disappointing, but if he can become a more consistent scorer/shooter then it's not too hard envisioning him become a Jason Terry type, and that in itself has value for us.

You can't just look at him as being the 7th pick because you have to take that specific draft into account. Who should the Bulls have drafted in 2019 over White?

He's been streaky so I can understand why the opinion on him has been divided. Overall I think he's done well for a 20 year old and would like to see him continue to develop here in Chicago.

I wanted Brandon Clarke and still prefer him to Coby, but you're right. As far as that draft goes, he's performing somewhere near the top 10, so it's not like he was disappointing in that regard.

[TheSuzerain]

Unless AK is an idiot (and I'm hopeful he's not), we are not building with Coby White.

I don't really care what he said at a press conference or about this song and dance with starting the young core together. The results of that lineup speak for itself.

I think most people here actually overwhelmingly agree that Coby's hurt us a bunch this season and that his future as a primary ball-handler is bleak. I also think that most people would be very open to parting with him in a trade. That said, I think that there's also a group of people who okay being patient with a 20-year-old who clearly still needs to learn how to play. As a 7th pick he's a little disappointing, but if he can become a more consistent scorer/shooter then it's not too hard envisioning him become a Jason Terry type, and that in itself has value for us.

You can't just look at him as being the 7th pick because you have to take that specific draft into account. Who should the Bulls have drafted in 2019 over White?

He's been streaky so I can understand why the opinion on him has been divided. Overall I think he's done well for a 20 year old and would like to see him continue to develop here in Chicago.

I mean there are tons of players drafted after White who are better than White, so I'm a bit taken aback by the question.

[HomoSapien]

I think most people here actually overwhelmingly agree that Coby's hurt us a bunch this season and that his future as a primary ball-handler is bleak. I also think that most people would be very open to parting with him in a trade. That said, I think that there's also a group of people who okay being patient with a 20-year-old who clearly still needs to learn how to play. As a 7th pick he's a little disappointing, but if he can become a more consistent scorer/shooter then it's not too hard envisioning him become a Jason Terry type, and that in itself has value for us.

You can't just look at him as being the 7th pick because you have to take that specific draft into account. Who should the Bulls have drafted in 2019 over White?

He's been streaky so I can understand why the opinion on him has been divided. Overall I think he's done well for a 20 year old and would like to see him continue to develop here in Chicago.

I mean there are tons of players drafted after White who are better than White, so I'm a bit taken aback by the question.

Ehh... He's outperforming Culver and Jaxson Hayes who were drafted ahead of him. After him, Tyler Herro is absolutely a miss on our part. I like Clarke better and Keldon Johnson is doing better as well. After those three, guys like PJ Washington, Rui, and Bazely are all fairly close to White. I'd like to see how they are all doing in year three before deciding where Coby ranks, but it's certainlly not feeling like a Kittles over Bryant type of situation.

[TheSuzerain]

You can't just look at him as being the 7th pick because you have to take that specific draft into account. Who should the Bulls have drafted in 2019 over White?

He's been streaky so I can understand why the opinion on him has been divided. Overall I think he's done well for a 20 year old and would like to see him continue to develop here in Chicago.

I mean there are tons of players drafted after White who are better than White, so I'm a bit taken aback by the question.

Ehh... He's outperforming Culver and Jaxson Hayes who were drafted ahead of him. After him, Tyler Herro is absolutely a miss on our part. I like Clarke better and Keldon Johnson is doing better as well. After those three, guys like PJ Washington, Rui, and Bazely are all fairly close to White. I'd like to see how they are all doing in year three before deciding where Coby ranks, but it's certainlly not feeling like a Kittles over Bryant type of situation.

I'd take Hayes over White.

Clarke was the obvious miss. And that was obvious on draft night.

[StunnerKO]

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[Chicago-Bull-E]

Ayo looking great out there.

If the refs let Kofi bang down low and he doesn’t get in foul trouble and their other guards are draining their shots, which they’re more than capable of, this Illini team is almost unstoppable. Really are one of the teams that could win it all, so well rounded.

[DuckIII]

Cooper. These videos of playmakers make me sad.

And Mobley has bust written all over him. I don’t like the way his free throws hit the back of the rim before going in.

Mobley is pretty special. His quickness and handles for his size is impressive, great touch and already has that fadeaway. Elite defender, great passer for a 7 footer. Nothing he can’t do really.

Only one big has had better defensive metrics than him, which was Anthony Davis. Better than Embiid, JJJ, etc.

Good write up and analysis.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nba/2021/1/13/22226644/2021-nba-draft-evan-mobley-usc

I was just joking. Despite being a huge fan of this draft, he’s the only one to me that screams can’t miss. I’d take him #1 based on what I’ve seen. But I’ve seen him more than some of the others.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Oklahoma State vs Baylor in the Big 12 semi is on ESPN today.

This could be our last look at Cade in college bc OKST is barred from this year’s NCAA tourney? Do I have that right?

I think the NCAA still has to rule on the appeal and hasn’t. They may wait until after the tournament, because let’s be honest, money is what matters to them and Cade is a big name.

That being said, Oklahoma state is that 4/5 seed that no 1 seed wants in their bracket. They continue to give Baylor fits, who dismantled Illinois earlier in the year (that was a while ago though)

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Cooper. These videos of playmakers make me sad.

And Mobley has bust written all over him. I don’t like the way his free throws hit the back of the rim before going in.

Mobley is pretty special. His quickness and handles for his size is impressive, great touch and already has that fadeaway. Elite defender, great passer for a 7 footer. Nothing he can’t do really.

Only one big has had better defensive metrics than him, which was Anthony Davis. Better than Embiid, JJJ, etc.

Good write up and analysis.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nba/2021/1/13/22226644/2021-nba-draft-evan-mobley-usc

I was just joking. Despite being a huge fan of this draft, he’s the only one to me that screams can’t miss. I’d take him #1 based on what I’ve seen. But I’ve seen him more than some of the others.

My bad, tough to tell these days. Even got me watching his free throws closely.

[DuckIII]

Mobley is pretty special. His quickness and handles for his size is impressive, great touch and already has that fadeaway. Elite defender, great passer for a 7 footer. Nothing he can’t do really.

Only one big has had better defensive metrics than him, which was Anthony Davis. Better than Embiid, JJJ, etc.

Good write up and analysis.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nba/2021/1/13/22226644/2021-nba-draft-evan-mobley-usc

I was just joking. Despite being a huge fan of this draft, he’s the only one to me that screams can’t miss. I’d take him #1 based on what I’ve seen. But I’ve seen him more than some of the others.

My bad, tough to tell these days. Even got me watching his free throws closely.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Oklahoma State vs Baylor in the Big 12 semi is on ESPN today.

This could be our last look at Cade in college bc OKST is barred from this year’s NCAA tourney? Do I have that right?

I think the NCAA still has to rule on the appeal and hasn’t. They may wait until after the tournament, because let’s be honest, money is what matters to them and Cade is a big name.

That being said, Oklahoma state is that 4/5 seed that no 1 seed wants in their bracket. They continue to give Baylor fits, who dismantled Illinois earlier in the year (that was a while ago though)

Didn’t know they hadn’t made a ruling. Thanks.

And yeah, Cade has OKST winning games they have no business winning. The impact is undeniable.