Bears 11.0: Free Agency, College Pro days, Draft & beyond

[patryk7754]

Ultimately, I think if it’s not jeanty or Warren, then the bears take OT or DE. trade back or not

[patryk7754]

Saw we sign Nick Mcloud. DB. Played for the giants last year. I believe he was primarily a corner with snaps at safety. I already thought it was unlikely we make a significant investment in the secondary (if any) but I think this signing basically means no more moves in the secondary. He had solid production with the giants.

[molepharmer]

Bears B Johnson and D Allen, among others, were at Michigan's pro day. Neither M Graham or W Johnson (CB) worked out but supposedly Grant looked really good. Grant has been mocked all over the first round, from top 10 to mid-20's. If Bears really like Grant, he's a possibility at #10 as well, all depends upon who is available and who Bears want most. No way of knowing.

i saw a composite mock of all the most accurate "mockers" that had the bears taking best available OT almost universally. they also all had membou gone by #10

NFLmockdraftdatabase has Membou to Jets at #7 as a 'trendy' pick and Campbell to Bears, which fits what you saw. FantasyPros best mockers has the same top 9, but they have Bears picking Banks. Top 8 picks seem to contain some combination of Carter, Ward, Hunter, Sanders, Graham, an O-linemen, an Edge and usually Jeanty. Probably why the Saints mocked pick at #9 is all over the place.

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Bears B Johnson and D Allen, among others, were at Michigan's pro day. Neither M Graham or W Johnson (CB) worked out but supposedly Grant looked really good. Grant has been mocked all over the first round, from top 10 to mid-20's. If Bears really like Grant, he's a possibility at #10 as well, all depends upon who is available and who Bears want most. No way of knowing.

i saw a composite mock of all the most accurate "mockers" that had the bears taking best available OT almost universally. they also all had membou gone by #10

I just don’t know if there’s an “OT” in this draft that’s a clear upgrade to Braxton Jones without question, or not a medical risk. Drafting a prospect at the position is fine, but not really the best move you could make at #10 considering the strengths of this draft. Those mockers seem to be weighing OT need over BPA quite heavily over anything else for the Bears. Yet the OT’s at 10 are questionable. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bears draft is going in a different direction after free agency closed down “need” at the guard positions.

[patryk7754]

Bears B Johnson and D Allen, among others, were at Michigan's pro day. Neither M Graham or W Johnson (CB) worked out but supposedly Grant looked really good. Grant has been mocked all over the first round, from top 10 to mid-20's. If Bears really like Grant, he's a possibility at #10 as well, all depends upon who is available and who Bears want most. No way of knowing.

i saw a composite mock of all the most accurate "mockers" that had the bears taking best available OT almost universally. they also all had membou gone by #10

I just don’t know if there’s an “OT” in this draft that’s a clear upgrade to Braxton Jones without question, or not a medical risk. Drafting a prospect at the position is fine, but not really the best move you could make at #10 considering the strengths of this draft. Those mockers seem to be weighing OT need over BPA quite heavily over anything else for the Bears. Yet the OT’s at 10 are questionable. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bears draft is going in a different direction after free agency closed down “need” at the guard positions.

Basically, how I feel about the LT situation. If I had to pick someone who is a "clear" upgrade over joned I would be Simmons but his injury issues are concerning. Which is why I am in favor in passing on a OT in the 1st.

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i saw a composite mock of all the most accurate "mockers" that had the bears taking best available OT almost universally. they also all had membou gone by #10

I just don’t know if there’s an “OT” in this draft that’s a clear upgrade to Braxton Jones without question, or not a medical risk. Drafting a prospect at the position is fine, but not really the best move you could make at #10 considering the strengths of this draft. Those mockers seem to be weighing OT need over BPA quite heavily over anything else for the Bears. Yet the OT’s at 10 are questionable. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bears draft is going in a different direction after free agency closed down “need” at the guard positions.

Basically, how I feel about the LT situation. If I had to pick someone who is a "clear" upgrade over joned I would be Simmons but his injury issues are concerning. Which is why I am in favor in passing on a OT in the 1st.

We need to know if Jones will recover full mobility on that leg, and if the Bears are ready to pay Jones market value next season. If either of these are no, then the Bears could conceivably draft an OT for need in the FR. Other than that, imo they should go BPA at a different position

[jnrjr79]

I just don’t know if there’s an “OT” in this draft that’s a clear upgrade to Braxton Jones without question, or not a medical risk. Drafting a prospect at the position is fine, but not really the best move you could make at #10 considering the strengths of this draft. Those mockers seem to be weighing OT need over BPA quite heavily over anything else for the Bears. Yet the OT’s at 10 are questionable. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bears draft is going in a different direction after free agency closed down “need” at the guard positions.

Basically, how I feel about the LT situation. If I had to pick someone who is a "clear" upgrade over joned I would be Simmons but his injury issues are concerning. Which is why I am in favor in passing on a OT in the 1st.

We need to know if Jones will recover full mobility on that leg, and if the Bears are ready to pay Jones market value next season. If either of these are no, then the Bears could conceivably draft an OT for need in the FR. Other than that, imo they should go BPA at a different position

I have also heard reports that it’s questionable about whether Jones will be ready to start the season, so it would be nice to see a depth piece at OT beyond Kiran, IMO.

[Dresden]

It makes sense to draft an OT, who we can then have on a rookie deal, rather than pay Braxton next year 20-25M or whatever. If you add in the concerns about his injury, I think the probability of us taking an OT is pretty high. I think it might be Jeanty #1, OT #1a.

[patryk7754]

Basically, how I feel about the LT situation. If I had to pick someone who is a "clear" upgrade over joned I would be Simmons but his injury issues are concerning. Which is why I am in favor in passing on a OT in the 1st.

We need to know if Jones will recover full mobility on that leg, and if the Bears are ready to pay Jones market value next season. If either of these are no, then the Bears could conceivably draft an OT for need in the FR. Other than that, imo they should go BPA at a different position

I have also heard reports that it’s questionable about whether Jones will be ready to start the season, so it would be nice to see a depth piece at OT beyond Kiran, IMO.

I would like to add a vet at LT as well. Long term, I think we're better off passing on drafting a LT of the future and prioritize that next offseason. But that plan would be dependant on who is available for us in the 2nd round or beyond. If Banks drops to the 2nd for whatever reason, I'd jump on that right away. I also like Jack Nelson out of Winsonsin who can probably be had in the 3rd or later.

Tyron Smith might be the answer as a stopgap. played 10 games and was pretty decent. Nootboom and DJ Humphries, have had pretty good experience as starters. Isiaha Wynn and Adrus Peat are also option. Wynn is more of hope he gets it together type of signing. Peat is primarily an OG with experience as a RT. Not sure if he has experience as a LT.

[patryk7754]

It makes sense to draft an OT, who we can then have on a rookie deal, rather than pay Braxton next year 20-25M or whatever. If you add in the concerns about his injury, I think the probability of us taking an OT is pretty high. I think it might be Jeanty #1, OT #1a.

Theoretically, it makes sense to take an OT. My concern is if there is a 1st round LT in this draft. If not, we'd be stuck with an underwhelming LT for 4/5 years.

[Dresden]

It makes sense to draft an OT, who we can then have on a rookie deal, rather than pay Braxton next year 20-25M or whatever. If you add in the concerns about his injury, I think the probability of us taking an OT is pretty high. I think it might be Jeanty #1, OT #1a.

Theoretically, it makes sense to take an OT. My concern is if there is a 1st round LT in this draft. If not, we'd be stuck with an underwhelming LT for 4/5 years.

I know you don't like him, but Brad Biggs endorsed Will Campbell, and most mock drafts have him going in the top 10, so I think there probably is value in taking him at 10 if he's still there, short arms or not.

A lot also depends on who the Bears think will be there at 39 and 41. Maybe they think there's an OT that will be on the board for those picks, and they could get their LT there, and use 10 on Jeanty or Warren or someone. I would prefer that scenario- if we can get Jeanty at 10. I would even consider McMillan at 10 if he's there.

[patryk7754]

It makes sense to draft an OT, who we can then have on a rookie deal, rather than pay Braxton next year 20-25M or whatever. If you add in the concerns about his injury, I think the probability of us taking an OT is pretty high. I think it might be Jeanty #1, OT #1a.

Theoretically, it makes sense to take an OT. My concern is if there is a 1st round LT in this draft. If not, we'd be stuck with an underwhelming LT for 4/5 years.

I know you don't like him, but Brad Biggs endorsed Will Campbell, and most mock drafts have him going in the top 10, so I think there probably is value in taking him at 10 if he's still there, short arms or not.

A lot also depends on who the Bears think will be there at 39 and 41. Maybe they think there's an OT that will be on the board for those picks, and they could get their LT there, and use 10 on Jeanty or Warren or someone. I would prefer that scenario- if we can get Jeanty at 10. I would even consider McMillan at 10 if he's there.

I’ve accepted the fact that Campbell is one of the top options for us so I won’t be too upset since I’m a little prepared.

As for McMillan, I’d be surprised if we went WR anywhere in the draft at this point. I could see us going WR in the first before we added our WR3 but it Seems to me like the WR room is set. I can still see us going wr a little later and maybe having that person compete for WR3/4 but I think it’s unlikely

[JohnnyKILLroy]

It would be foolish to think we’re done with the offensive and defensive lines. Hitting on lineman for the next decade is more important than luxury skill positions. It’s like people didn’t even watch last season and were oblivious to what injuries did to our lines.

[Dresden]

Theoretically, it makes sense to take an OT. My concern is if there is a 1st round LT in this draft. If not, we'd be stuck with an underwhelming LT for 4/5 years.

I know you don't like him, but Brad Biggs endorsed Will Campbell, and most mock drafts have him going in the top 10, so I think there probably is value in taking him at 10 if he's still there, short arms or not.

A lot also depends on who the Bears think will be there at 39 and 41. Maybe they think there's an OT that will be on the board for those picks, and they could get their LT there, and use 10 on Jeanty or Warren or someone. I would prefer that scenario- if we can get Jeanty at 10. I would even consider McMillan at 10 if he's there.

I’ve accepted the fact that Campbell is one of the top options for us so I won’t be too upset since I’m a little prepared.

As for McMillan, I’d be surprised if we went WR anywhere in the draft at this point. I could see us going WR in the first before we added our WR3 but it Seems to me like the WR room is set. I can still see us going wr a little later and maybe having that person compete for WR3/4 but I think it’s unlikely

If we took McMillan, then he and Odunze would be our WR1/2 fairly soon and we'd look to trade DJ.

[Dresden]

It would be foolish to think we’re done with the offensive and defensive lines. Hitting on lineman for the next decade is more important than luxury skill positions. It’s like people didn’t even watch last season and were oblivious to what injuries did to our lines.

I agree we still have work to do, but we do have 3 picks in the 2nd and 3rd round that can be used to bolster both lines. If we went with a Jeanty or Warren at 10, we can still select 3 lineman with our other high picks. That would give us a fair amount of depth. I think a player of Jeanty's ability is worth using a #10 pick on, if he's there.

[molepharmer]

It would be foolish to think we’re done with the offensive and defensive lines. Hitting on lineman for the next decade is more important than luxury skill positions. It’s like people didn’t even watch last season and were oblivious to what injuries did to our lines.

I agree we still have work to do, but we do have 3 picks in the 2nd and 3rd round that can be used to bolster both lines. If we went with a Jeanty or Warren at 10, we can still select 3 lineman with our other high picks. That would give us a fair amount of depth. I think a player of Jeanty's ability is worth using a #10 pick on, if he's there.

Most mocks have about 6 D-linemen and 5 O-linemen in the range of picks #31-50; just over half the picks in that range are linemen. Another 10 D-linemen in the range of #51-80, but only about 3 O-linemen in this range.

While the possible O-linemen at #10 may not be blue chippers, if the Bears think this years #10 potential OT is better than, for example, an OT in 2026 around pick #18, then they should probably select them this year.

[NecessaryEvil]

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[Jeffster81]

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[dice]

I just don’t know if there’s an “OT” in this draft that’s a clear upgrade to Braxton Jones without question, or not a medical risk. Drafting a prospect at the position is fine, but not really the best move you could make at #10 considering the strengths of this draft. Those mockers seem to be weighing OT need over BPA quite heavily over anything else for the Bears. Yet the OT’s at 10 are questionable. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bears draft is going in a different direction after free agency closed down “need” at the guard positions.

Basically, how I feel about the LT situation. If I had to pick someone who is a "clear" upgrade over joned I would be Simmons but his injury issues are concerning. Which is why I am in favor in passing on a OT in the 1st.

We need to know if Jones will recover full mobility on that leg, and if the Bears are ready to pay Jones market value next season. If either of these are no, then the Bears could conceivably draft an OT for need in the FR. Other than that, imo they should go BPA at a different position

there's zero reason to do it for need given that there's no surefire starting NFL LT to be had. if they don't want to re-sign jones, fine (though i think he'll be a relative bargain). sign someone else who you know can do the job