2025 Free Agency News/Rumors

boozapalooza · Post #701 » by **boozapalooza** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 2:12 am

PistolP wrote:The Nuggets reportedly get access to the full $14m MLE if Valunciunas goes to Greece. The Warriors have the 5.7m TMLE. Not sure what other contender could use Vuc.

Nugs are the lone possibility I could see. Jokic and Vuc are close friends. I’d love to find a way to make a Vuc for Daron Holmes deal work, but its hard to envision money wise.

Muzbar · Post #702 » by **Muzbar** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 2:44 am

sco wrote:
Muzbar wrote:Nah you guys are all wrong.

AK don't miss.

I've heard it from a reliable source...

can you share more?

I cannot. Or my source will block me.

(hopefully)

DropStep · Post #703 » by **DropStep** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 3:15 am

Chi town wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Suggs getting 30M is preposterous by the way

Yep. Same for IQ at 30+

IQ feels like it was in a previous universe somehow. I feel like the Brandon Ingram extension was the last of a dying breed of extensions by a team that didn't sense the way the wind was blowing, and now we are officially in the new era where people are getting on board with the fact that NBA contract economics have significantly shifted. I think I like Suggs better than Quickley on the whole, but 30 in this environment is a big number.

Am2626 · Post #704 » by **Am2626** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 7:18 pm

boozapalooza wrote:

Read on Twitter

Happy 4th yall, first real Giddey negotiation update I’ve seen, from Cowley. He wants the 30M/yr Suggs deal, Bulls not budging yet.

The Bulls shouldn’t have to budge. Just because Suggs was overpaid doesn’t mean the Bulls have to match that. They have the leverage. If they hold out a little longer they will get Giddey at a lower price.

kodo · Post #705 » by **kodo** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 7:53 pm

DropStep wrote:
Chi town wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Suggs getting 30M is preposterous by the way

Yep. Same for IQ at 30+

IQ feels like it was in a previous universe somehow. I feel like the Brandon Ingram extension was the last of a dying breed of extensions by a team that didn't sense the way the wind was blowing, and now we are officially in the new era where people are getting on board with the fact that NBA contract economics have significantly shifted. I think I like Suggs better than Quickley on the whole, but 30 in this environment is a big number.

I don't think it's permanently gone backwards, the salary cap has only gone up last few years and everything is measured as % of the cap. In 2020 the cap was $109M. We now have a cap of $154M. So a $30M player in 2020 is the same as $43M today.

The tightening this summer is the stars aligning of most teams not having cap space and many of the expected big spenders hit by injuries and thus not willing to spend as they normally would.

Austin Reaves refused a $90M contract and is seeking $35M+. Quentin Grimes is seeking $25M+. Miles Bridges is $27M even with all his baggage and inability to help his team win more than 20ish games.

Dan Z · Post #706 » by **Dan Z** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 8:54 pm

Cam Whitmore to the Wizards for two 2nd round picks.

PistolP · Post #707 » by **PistolP** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:02 pm

Dan Z wrote:Cam Whitmore to the Wizards for two 2nd round picks.

I thought he would have been a good buy-low player to take a swing on. Oh well.

LateNight · Post #708 » by **LateNight** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:05 pm

PistolP wrote:
Dan Z wrote:Cam Whitmore to the Wizards for two 2nd round picks.

I thought he would have been a good buy-low player to take a swing on. Oh well.

Wow… well that sucks for us. I want another young guy like that

nomorezorro · Post #709 » by **nomorezorro** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:22 pm

jay huff traded to the pacers for a second and a second-round pick swap

annoying to see two guys i was interested in taking a flier on go for next to nothing

Dan Z · Post #710 » by **Dan Z** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:39 pm

LateNight wrote:
PistolP wrote:
Dan Z wrote:Cam Whitmore to the Wizards for two 2nd round picks.

I thought he would have been a good buy-low player to take a swing on. Oh well.

Wow… well that sucks for us. I want another young guy like that

I'd prefer him over Kuminga or Okoro.

Post #711 » by **DuckIII** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:41 pm

yifsuibfe1 wrote:I for one am shocked that the Bulls screwed up asset management with Vuc… shocked I tell you

There's a 7th time for everything.

GoBlue72391 · Post #712 » by **GoBlue72391** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:44 pm

Dan Z wrote:Cam Whitmore to the Wizards for two 2nd round picks.

These are the types of trades we should be making.

NecessaryEvil · Post #713 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:55 pm

Read on Twitter

How do you not make this deal??

_txchilibowl_ · Post #714 » by **_txchilibowl_** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:05 pm

Because that's a 5 game sample size ^

Post #715 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:27 pm

With Whitmore gone, Giddey at 24m and Grimes at 14m is my new won’t-happen fantasy.

Dan Z · Post #716 » by **Dan Z** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:55 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:

Read on Twitter

How do you not make this deal??

Because the Bulls would rather sell off 2nd round picks.

PistolP · Post #717 » by **PistolP** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:19 am

nomorezorro wrote:jay huff traded to the pacers for a second and a second-round pick swap

annoying to see two guys i was interested in taking a flier on go for next to nothing

Add Indy to the list of teams with a hole at C that no longer have a need for Vuc

Infinity2152 · Post #718 » by **Infinity2152** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:24 am

Would make no sense to trade picks to get Whitmore this year. Y'all can write off Terry, Phillips, Williams, Okoro if you want, but they likely all get minutes this year. Cam Whitmore is a career sub 36% 3pt shooter, that 47% is misleading as hell. Career TS 56%, VORP .5, BPM .2, DPBM -.7

Matas, Noa and maybe Huerter and Ayo will all play forward minutes too. There's no room to add another player to evaluate. Clearly they didn't want a player back, we'd have had to pay and waive a player plus send picks to add Whitmore to barely play.

Dan Z · Post #719 » by **Dan Z** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:34 am

Infinity2152 wrote:Would make no sense to trade picks to get Whitmore this year. Y'all can write off Terry, Phillips, Williams, Okoro if you want, but they likely all get minutes this year. Cam Whitmore is a career sub 36% 3pt shooter, that 47% is misleading as hell. Career TS 56%, VORP .5, BPM .2, DPBM -.7

Matas, Noa and maybe Huerter and Ayo will all play forward minutes too. There's no room to add another player to evaluate. Clearly they didn't want a player back, we'd have had to pay and waive a player plus send picks to add Whitmore to barely play.

I'd rather take a chance on Whitmore than Okoro, but that ship sailed awhile ago.

Infinity2152 · Post #720 » by **Infinity2152** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:40 am

Dan Z wrote:
Infinity2152 wrote:Would make no sense to trade picks to get Whitmore this year. Y'all can write off Terry, Phillips, Williams, Okoro if you want, but they likely all get minutes this year. Cam Whitmore is a career sub 36% 3pt shooter, that 47% is misleading as hell. Career TS 56%, VORP .5, BPM .2, DPBM -.7

Matas, Noa and maybe Huerter and Ayo will all play forward minutes too. There's no room to add another player to evaluate. Clearly they didn't want a player back, we'd have had to pay and waive a player plus send picks to add Whitmore to barely play.

I'd rather take a chance on Whitmore than Okoro, but that ship sailed awhile ago.

Exactly. Whitmore's not a bad shot, but not for us right now. We have too many developmental forwards for maybe the first time in 10 years. This is not the year to give up picks to add another prospect with two years left on his rookie contract. We'll have plenty of open roster spots next summer.

Okoro looks to help defensively way more than Whitmore. Personally, with this team, I take the defensive player next to Coby and Giddey.