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Re: Trade Thread 2: Make your offers here 

Post#741 » by johnnyvann840 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:49 am

TankForAyton wrote:
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TankForAyton wrote:Jokic is one of the best players in the NBA already, that is laughable.


I'm confused. You don't think Nikola Jokic is one of the best players in the league? IMO, to not think it is laughable.


I was replying to this, sorry..


FecesOfDeath wrote:If the Bulls don't get a Top 6 pick this season, I'd swing for a trade to get Nikola Jokic.

Nuggets get
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Portis
Bulls 2018 first round pick

Bulls get
Jokic
Faried


Yeah, the Nuggets wouldn't do that trade unless we swapped Lauri for Portis and then they still probably wouldn't do it. Basically, Lauri and the 7th or 8th pick for a top ten player. Nope. They've already got the guy that everybody would be tanking for knowing what we do now. Denver got him at #41. Oh, to have that kind of luck (or great scouting). That is a Spurs like move.
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Re: Trade Thread 2: Make your offers here 

Post#742 » by Axolotl » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:18 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:They've already got the guy that everybody would be tanking for knowing what we do now. Denver got him at #41. Oh, to have that kind of luck (or great scouting). That is a Spurs like move.


Drafting a great player at #41 is always about luck. There is just no way that scouting across the league has been so blind that a great prospect is available at #40+. It is about a player developing to have a skill level that is beyond anything that could be predicted before the draft.
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Re: Trade Thread 2: Make your offers here 

Post#743 » by sco » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:38 am

How about saving Orlando so dough and give them some "potential":

Biyombo for Shrek, Cam and Grant
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Post#744 » by Nate3carp » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:25 am

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Re: Trade Thread 2: Make your offers here 

Post#745 » by WindyCityBorn » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:35 pm

sco wrote:How about saving Orlando so dough and give them some "potential":

Biyombo for Shrek, Cam and Grant


Isn't Biyombo is extremely overpaid? Why would Chicago want him for any reason? Orlando isn't giving up any 1st round picks to dump him.
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Post#746 » by sco » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:43 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
sco wrote:How about saving Orlando so dough and give them some "potential":

Biyombo for Shrek, Cam and Grant


Isn't Biyombo is extremely overpaid? Why would Chicago want him.


I think he's a good potential fit next to Lauri. He is way overpaid (especially for a back-up), but that said, his deal is over 1 year before Shrek's.
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Re: Trade Thread 2: Make your offers here 

Post#747 » by Axolotl » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:51 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
sco wrote:How about saving Orlando so dough and give them some "potential":

Biyombo for Shrek, Cam and Grant


Isn't Biyombo is extremely overpaid? Why would Chicago want him for any reason? Orlando isn't giving up any 1st round picks to dump him.


Yeah, I'd rather keep Felicio, Grant and Payne than pay 17 mils/year until 2020 to an old school center who can't shoot.
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Re: Trade Thread 2: Make your offers here 

Post#748 » by sco » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:12 pm

I'm starting to think that if we don't think we'll land one of:

1. Ayton
2. Porter Jr.
3. Doncic
4. Bagley
5. JJJ
6. Bamba
7. Young

That we try to trade the pick and Holiday or other non-core guy(s) for a good defensive SF.

Boston for Brown - they have Hayward, or
Brkn for Hollis-Jefferson - they have no pick, or
Wash for Oubre - they have porter
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Post#749 » by the ultimates » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:30 pm

sco wrote:I'm starting to think that if we don't think we'll land one of:

1. Ayton
2. Porter Jr.
3. Doncic
4. Bagley
5. JJJ
6. Bamba
7. Young

That we try to trade the pick and Holiday or other non-core guy(s) for a good defensive SF.

Boston for Brown - they have Hayward, or
Brkn for Hollis-Jefferson - they have no pick, or
Wash for Oubre - they have porter


Why do that when they can draft either of the Bridges or Knox at small forward?
Losing to get high draft picks and hoping they turn into franchise players is not some next level, genius move. That's what teams want to happen in any rebuild/tank or whatever you want to market it as.
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Re: Trade Thread 2: Make your offers here 

Post#750 » by sco » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:16 pm

the ultimates wrote:
sco wrote:I'm starting to think that if we don't think we'll land one of:

1. Ayton
2. Porter Jr.
3. Doncic
4. Bagley
5. JJJ
6. Bamba
7. Young

That we try to trade the pick and Holiday or other non-core guy(s) for a good defensive SF.

Boston for Brown - they have Hayward, or
Brkn for Hollis-Jefferson - they have no pick, or
Wash for Oubre - they have porter


Why do that when they can draft either of the Bridges or Knox at small forward?

Because there is a 72.6% chance they won't be as good. All 3 of the other guys have high All-Star potential. Also, I'm not be on having to develop 2 rookies at once next year.
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Post#751 » by the ultimates » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:10 pm

sco wrote:
the ultimates wrote:
sco wrote:I'm starting to think that if we don't think we'll land one of:

1. Ayton
2. Porter Jr.
3. Doncic
4. Bagley
5. JJJ
6. Bamba
7. Young

That we try to trade the pick and Holiday or other non-core guy(s) for a good defensive SF.

Boston for Brown - they have Hayward, or
Brkn for Hollis-Jefferson - they have no pick, or
Wash for Oubre - they have porter


Why do that when they can draft either of the Bridges or Knox at small forward?

Because there is a 72.6% chance they won't be as good. All 3 of the other guys have high All-Star potential. Also, I'm not be on having to develop 2 rookies at once next year.


There is a 72.6 chance of what, they won't be as good as Brown, Hollis-Jefferson or Oubre? What difference does it make for the Bulls as a developing team having two more rookies especially if one is at small forward.
Losing to get high draft picks and hoping they turn into franchise players is not some next level, genius move. That's what teams want to happen in any rebuild/tank or whatever you want to market it as.
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Re: Trade Thread 2: Make your offers here 

Post#752 » by sco » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:40 pm

the ultimates wrote:
sco wrote:
the ultimates wrote:
Why do that when they can draft either of the Bridges or Knox at small forward?

Because there is a 72.6% chance they won't be as good. All 3 of the other guys have high All-Star potential. Also, I'm not be on having to develop 2 rookies at once next year.


There is a 72.6 chance of what, they won't be as good as Brown, Hollis-Jefferson or Oubre? What difference does it make for the Bulls as a developing team having two more rookies especially if one is at small forward.

Yes - there is a detailed statistical analysis that I've done but (in the interest of space :wink: ) have left out of this post that supports the 72.6% likelihood that if we're stuck far enough back where we'd draft one of the Bridges or Knox that they would not be as good as Brown, Hollis-Jefferson or Oubre.

I'm not steadfastly against 2 picks, but I think trying to get 2 guys developmental minutes will hurt overall team progression next year, but that's just my POV.
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Re: Trade Thread 2: Make your offers here 

Post#753 » by bulls4ever » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:50 am

can we remove the stick on this one and sticky the tank thread?
not like any trade can happen any time soon now ...
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Post#754 » by The Box Office » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:10 am

TheSuzerain wrote:I would trade Dunn for Ball in a millisecond


Hell to the NO. Ball brings LaVar. Also, I think Dunn is a better defensive player than Lonzo can ever become.
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Post#755 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:33 am

Watching some Fultz highlights from early on in the season, that dude is still gonna be damn good. If his stock is low, I'd look to nab him, trade Dunn.
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Post#756 » by erlim » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:20 pm

The Box Office wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:I would trade Dunn for Ball in a millisecond


Hell to the NO. Ball brings LaVar. Also, I think Dunn is a better defensive player than Lonzo can ever become.


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Post#757 » by Just_Bullz » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:10 am

In a dream scenario, our first round picks and rolo for the klaw.

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2. Zach
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Post#758 » by Ccwatercraft » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:22 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Watching some Fultz highlights from early on in the season, that dude is still gonna be damn good. If his stock is low, I'd look to nab him, trade Dunn.


I don't think Philly has any reason to give up on him TBH, they are in a pretty good spot right now so they can be patient.
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Post#759 » by Dan Z » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:56 pm

Ccwatercraft wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Watching some Fultz highlights from early on in the season, that dude is still gonna be damn good. If his stock is low, I'd look to nab him, trade Dunn.


I don't think Philly has any reason to give up on him TBH, they are in a pretty good spot right now so they can be patient.


At this point all they can do is work with him and go from there. If they traded Fultz and he blew up that would be a disaster for them.
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Post#760 » by boozapalooza » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:25 pm

Kahwi for Dunn, our 1st, and the Pelicans 1st. Who says no?

Spurs get a chance at 2 lotto picks, one maybe being top 5, and a rising star in Dunn who could thrive with Pop’s coaching.

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