Bulls Free Agency - Merged

samwana · Post #741 » by **samwana** » Mon Jul 9, 2018 9:28 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:The Bulls could just sign Jabari Parker outright. Doubt the Bucks plan to keep him. Though a lot of teams see Jabari as a 4 and not a 3.

Another guy that can't defend a chair with ACL problems. No thanks.

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MrFortune3 · Post #742 » by **MrFortune3** » Mon Jul 9, 2018 9:37 pm

samwana wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:The Bulls could just sign Jabari Parker outright. Doubt the Bucks plan to keep him. Though a lot of teams see Jabari as a 4 and not a 3.
Another guy that can't defend a chair with ACL problems. No thanks.

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I was responding to the post about S&T for Parker with the Bucks. I was too lazy to quote the post though.

Red8911 · Post #743 » by **Red8911** » Mon Jul 9, 2018 9:55 pm

Hood would be a solid pick up but only for a one year contract for many reasons. There’s no starting wing on this team so hood would fit in perfect right now. Maybe work out a sign and trade with the Cavs to get him with the QO.

holv03 · Post #744 » by **holv03** » Mon Jul 9, 2018 10:02 pm

Red8911 wrote:Hood would be a solid pick up but only for a one year contract for many reasons. There’s no starting wing on this team so hood would fit in perfect right now. Maybe work out a sign and trade with the Cavs to get him with the QO.

He will command more money than the QO. Cavs want to keep him for the right price so the best thing the Bulls do is offer him a big one year deal.

Hangtime84 · Post #745 » by **Hangtime84** » Mon Jul 9, 2018 11:36 pm

weneeda2guard wrote:If we going to sign hood, or someone else to a multi year contract compromising our space for next year, much rather just sign nwaba, if we taking ourselves out of being major players in free agency in 2019.

Never thought 2019 was real. 2020 and 2021

bad knees · Post #746 » by **bad knees** » Mon Jul 9, 2018 11:46 pm

Hood is an RFA. Under the CBA, the Bulls can offer him no less than a 2 year contract.

Post #747 » by **GimmeDat** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:48 am

I'm sorry Jabari haters, but I'm locked in on him right now. Anything more than 12.3m puts the Bucks in the tax at this point.

We can get him on a very reasonable price for the risk/reward. Since I found out he works at the 3, I've been in on him. He's a really, really talented offensive player.

***I should clarify, not calling anyone haters, hate that. Just mean I know the idea will not appeal to those who hate the idea of signing Jabari.

Red8911 · Post #748 » by **Red8911** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:55 am

bad knees wrote:Hood is an RFA. Under the CBA, the Bulls can offer him no less than a 2 year contract.

Sign and trade Zipser/kilpatrick.

NecessaryEvil · Post #749 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:03 am

Another lotto pick >>> Jabari w/ two acl surgeries

Red Larrivee · Post #750 » by **Red Larrivee** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:06 am

GimmeDat wrote:I'm sorry Jabari haters, but I'm locked in on him right now. Anything more than 12.3m puts the Bucks in the tax at this point.

We can get him on a very reasonable price for the risk/reward. Since I found out he works at the 3, I've been in on him. He's a really, really talented offensive player.

Same problem as LaVine. Putting two of them in the same lineup isn't going to end well. I really want someone at the three who can defend his position and isn't squarely dependent on scoring for positional value.

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Post #751 » by **GimmeDat** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:28 am

Red Larrivee wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:I'm sorry Jabari haters, but I'm locked in on him right now. Anything more than 12.3m puts the Bucks in the tax at this point.

We can get him on a very reasonable price for the risk/reward. Since I found out he works at the 3, I've been in on him. He's a really, really talented offensive player.

Same problem as LaVine. Putting two of them in the same lineup isn't going to end well. I really want someone at the three who can defend his position and isn't squarely dependent on scoring for positional value.

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That's fair enough. I would want one of him or Lavine to come off the bench eventually, or at least heavily skew the lineups so they're not together. It's not a great fit in that regard.

But for pure upside relative to contract, I think this would be a great play.

StunnerKO · Post #752 » by **StunnerKO** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:53 am

Kings going after Marcus Smart

holv03 · Post #753 » by **holv03** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:14 am

StunnerKO wrote:Kings going after Marcus Smart

He would be a good pick up for them. Not a good shooter but his defense makes a difference in the court.

Post #754 » by **GimmeDat** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:40 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:Another lotto pick >>> Jabari w/ two acl surgeries

I'm not sure how that became an either/or scenario.

MisterRoy · Post #755 » by **MisterRoy** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:34 am

holv03 wrote:
Red8911 wrote:Hood would be a solid pick up but only for a one year contract for many reasons. There’s no starting wing on this team so hood would fit in perfect right now. Maybe work out a sign and trade with the Cavs to get him with the QO.

He will command more money than the QO. Cavs want to keep him for the right price so the best thing the Bulls do is offer him a big one year deal.

You think Cavs match $12M? Didn't Caldwell-Pope get something like that?

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Repeat 3-peat · Post #756 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:04 am

I would've been a big fan of signing Ariza.

Ayman78 · Post #757 » by **Ayman78** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:05 am

GimmeDat wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:I'm sorry Jabari haters, but I'm locked in on him right now. Anything more than 12.3m puts the Bucks in the tax at this point.

We can get him on a very reasonable price for the risk/reward. Since I found out he works at the 3, I've been in on him. He's a really, really talented offensive player.

Same problem as LaVine. Putting two of them in the same lineup isn't going to end well. I really want someone at the three who can defend his position and isn't squarely dependent on scoring for positional value.

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That's fair enough. I would want one of him or Lavine to come off the bench eventually, or at least heavily skew the lineups so they're not together. It's not a great fit in that regard.

But for pure upside relative to contract, I think this would be a great play.

I respect the defense argument against a Lavine and Parker pairing, but the assumption is that they would incapable of developing into team defenders. Guys in the league do develop that aspect of their game. With high defensive IQ players like Dunn and Carter I would expect communication to improve and aid in both Lavine's and Parker's positioning.

But, I do like your original idea of going after Parker for the 12 - 14 million dollar per range for 3 years, maybe team option for year 4.

Having 3 legit 20 plus per game scores is a really solid foundation.

The alternative is to hope for an already established elite player to sign in FA or hope the team is bad enough for a top 3-5 pick. The latter means that this team will likely fall into the consistently bad, and the former well past usually is prologue.

logical_art · Post #758 » by **logical_art** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:27 am

Montrezl Harrell is the only guy out there who piques my interest. Unfortunately the bulls are likely committed to paying a no defense playing big over ten mil a year to come off the bench, so adding another big seems unlikely. His athleticism would fit real nicely with Lauri and MCJ IMO.

JimmyJammer · Post #759 » by **JimmyJammer** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:03 am

holv03 wrote:
Red8911 wrote:Hood would be a solid pick up but only for a one year contract for many reasons. There’s no starting wing on this team so hood would fit in perfect right now. Maybe work out a sign and trade with the Cavs to get him with the QO.

He will command more money than the QO. Cavs want to keep him for the right price so the best thing the Bulls do is offer him a big one year deal.

The Bulls can create 19 millions in cap space if they renounce Vonleh, Nwaba and Stone, so giving out a 17mil one year salary to Hood would not be such a bad idea. We would take him for a test drive and reevaluate things after next season.

MisterRoy · Post #760 » by **MisterRoy** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:15 am

Looks like the min a team can offer an RFAis either a 2 or 3 year deal.

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