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2019 Draft Thread Volume #6 - Post Lottery

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Re: 2019 Draft Thread Volume #6 - Post Lottery 

Post#741 » by GimmeDat » Sun May 26, 2019 7:48 am

Take it for what you will, read this on reddit that apparently Jalen Leque has a promise at 51 from the Celtics (obviously isn't likely to be relevant to us). Makes sense that he'd have some sort of baseline for being picked because he pulled out of the 2nd scrimmage. I'll add this to the OP.

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Post#742 » by NewEra21 » Sun May 26, 2019 1:45 pm

Obviously LeBron has more pull than any other player on what decisions a GM would make, but I wouldnt be too worried about Garland hanging out with him. Klutch sports is how LeBron calls its "La Familia." Clients are often seen together.

Darius Bazley, another Klutch sports guy, has instagram posts with him working out with Miles Bridges and cpouple of hanging with Garland himself. Them all being part of Klutch. Garland has a post dating back during all star weekend with multiple Klutch guys. Way before the Lakers even thought they probably had shot at him.

That being said, I would love if Chicago was able to double dip on the Darius'. Garland and Bazley would be a nice haul this draft.
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Post#743 » by Southpaw » Sun May 26, 2019 1:49 pm

Doumbouya looks really interesting to me from the little I've seen, but i feel like he's a reach at 7.

If the Hawks get Reddish and he pans out, the Hawks would be really scary.

I'm an advocating of always picking BPA but if it's a choice between a same rated PG and wing, i'd go for the wing imo. The best players in the league are mostly wings.
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Post#744 » by sco » Sun May 26, 2019 2:20 pm

I don't want the Bulls to give up additionally assets like 38 to move up to draft Garland (although Dunn and Valentine and Memphis 2nd's don't bother me), BUT I would gladly do that if it saves us from a Lonzo deal.

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I wonder if the Knicks are eyeing deals to trade Mitchell Robinson if they are interested in Fall.
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Post#745 » by SfBull » Sun May 26, 2019 2:56 pm

Updated mock
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2019-nba-mock-draft.html?m=1
An interesting one, showing Jaxson Hayes climbing up for top 5 and the Bulls going for Garland with #7( no trading up necessary in this scenario). Another evidence of how open is this draft after Zion/Morant/Barrett.
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Post#746 » by Dresden » Sun May 26, 2019 4:06 pm

SfBull wrote:Updated mock
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2019-nba-mock-draft.html?m=1
An interesting one, showing Jaxson Hayes climbing up for top 5 and the Bulls going for Garland with #7( no trading up necessary in this scenario). Another evidence of how open is this draft after Zion/Morant/Barrett.


Finally a mock that has Coby White going ahead of Garland. Also, it mentions that Bol weighed in at just 208 pounds? He's never going to hold up to an 82 game nba season.
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Post#747 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Sun May 26, 2019 5:03 pm

What are we thinking about Luguentz Dort as a possibility at 38?

Just noticed he came in at 222 lbs and 5% body fat. That's a ridiculous. Good length too (6'8.5" wingspan).

I hate his jumper. It doesn't have a prayer of being efficient until he scraps that rainbow shot. But the athletic upside is there and he's already a good defender. I'd love to see him or Carsen Edwards fall to us. I'm way more interested in that outcome than I am using #7 on White or Garland.
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Post#748 » by Jvaughn » Sun May 26, 2019 5:54 pm

Dresden wrote:
SfBull wrote:Updated mock
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2019-nba-mock-draft.html?m=1
An interesting one, showing Jaxson Hayes climbing up for top 5 and the Bulls going for Garland with #7( no trading up necessary in this scenario). Another evidence of how open is this draft after Zion/Morant/Barrett.


Finally a mock that has Coby White going ahead of Garland. Also, it mentions that Bol weighed in at just 208 pounds? He's never going to hold up to an 82 game nba season.


Bol lost a ton of weight while he was out with injury. Adding muscle was always going to have to be a priority. I'm not super concerned. He'll get stronger with some NBA training.
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Post#749 » by Jvaughn » Sun May 26, 2019 5:57 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:What are we thinking about Luguentz Dort as a possibility at 38?

Just noticed he came in at 222 lbs and 5% body fat. That's a ridiculous. Good length too (6'8.5" wingspan).

I hate his jumper. It doesn't have a prayer of being efficient until he scraps that rainbow shot. But the athletic upside is there and he's already a good defender. I'd love to see him or Carsen Edwards fall to us. I'm way more interested in that outcome than I am using #7 on White or Garland.


I could be way off, but he reminds me alot of Rawle.
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Post#750 » by bearadonisdna » Sun May 26, 2019 6:54 pm

Southpaw wrote:Doumbouya looks really interesting to me from the little I've seen, but i feel like he's a reach at 7.

If the Hawks get Reddish and he pans out, the Hawks would be really scary.

I'm an advocating of always picking BPA but if it's a choice between a same rated PG and wing, i'd go for the wing imo. The best players in the league are mostly wings.


Wings are the safest bet for 3 level scoring.

Bigs- Genereally regarded as interior oriented.
Point guards- perimeter oriented
Wings-Can and should do both
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Post#751 » by holv03 » Sun May 26, 2019 9:00 pm

Carsen Edwards is a 2nd round option. Lights out shooter. He had an amazing game against Virginia and in a lot of the plays he was being guarded by Hunter and still was able to knock it down.
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Post#752 » by CoreyVillains » Sun May 26, 2019 9:36 pm

Did a breakdown on St.John’s Shamorie Ponds. If we don’t go PG in round 1, Ponds is someone I’d look into. Excellent handle, underrated distributor who rarely turns the ball over, excellent defender with a fantastic steal rate(defensive vid coming soon), decent shooter who can get his own shot but needs to watch his shot selection at the next level, played in a multi-ball handler system at SJU. He’s a junior so he’ll be 21 at the start of next season, but I also feel he has a good NBA future if he lands in the right system.

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Post#753 » by DuckIII » Sun May 26, 2019 9:57 pm

Jvaughn wrote:
Dresden wrote:
SfBull wrote:Updated mock
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2019-nba-mock-draft.html?m=1
An interesting one, showing Jaxson Hayes climbing up for top 5 and the Bulls going for Garland with #7( no trading up necessary in this scenario). Another evidence of how open is this draft after Zion/Morant/Barrett.


Finally a mock that has Coby White going ahead of Garland. Also, it mentions that Bol weighed in at just 208 pounds? He's never going to hold up to an 82 game nba season.


Bol lost a ton of weight while he was out with injury. Adding muscle was always going to have to be a priority. I'm not super concerned. He'll get stronger with some NBA training.


Not gonna lie, I wouldn’t touch Bol for Chicago. So call me biased, but I think this strongly supports the reports that Bol has a trash attitude and doesn’t really care about basketball. If he needs to add weight, how does he lose 20 lbs when he can’t play? It means he wasn’t doing a damn thing to build the other parts of his body when he had nothing but time and opportunity to do so.

Kid screams bust.

Unrelated note: thank mock is pretty bad.
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Post#754 » by kingkirk » Sun May 26, 2019 10:43 pm

Shouldn’t it be easier to put on weight given you’re not cardio conditioning given the foot issues?

Why wasn’t Bol in the steel factory putting on size?

Hard pass on this guy. He won’t be able to stay on the floor so you’ll never get that perceived upside.
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Post#755 » by fleet » Sun May 26, 2019 11:22 pm

DuckIII wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
Dresden wrote:
Finally a mock that has Coby White going ahead of Garland. Also, it mentions that Bol weighed in at just 208 pounds? He's never going to hold up to an 82 game nba season.


Bol lost a ton of weight while he was out with injury. Adding muscle was always going to have to be a priority. I'm not super concerned. He'll get stronger with some NBA training.


Not gonna lie, I wouldn’t touch Bol for Chicago. So call me biased, but I think this strongly supports the reports that Bol has a trash attitude and doesn’t really care about basketball. If he needs to add weight, how does he lose 20 lbs when he can’t play? It means he wasn’t doing a damn thing to build the other parts of his body when he had nothing but time and opportunity to do so.

Kid screams bust.

Unrelated note: thank mock is pretty bad.



Bol is the bad kind of skinny. He makes Thon Maker seem like Thor. He would need to be 7' 6. I don't see it with him, because while he can make a play or 2, this sort of weakness will get taken advantage of more often than he can contribute. As KC says. Advanced stats would likely be mercilous with his minutes. Now, If I need to be worried about a bad attitude on top, there are other options for a roster spot.
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Post#756 » by R3AL1TY » Sun May 26, 2019 11:33 pm

CoreyVillains wrote:Did a breakdown on St.John’s Shamorie Ponds. If we don’t go PG in round 1, Ponds is someone I’d look into. Excellent handle, underrated distributor who rarely turns the ball over, excellent defender with a fantastic steal rate(defensive vid coming soon), decent shooter who can get his own shot but needs to watch his shot selection at the next level, played in a multi-ball handler system at SJU. He’s a junior so he’ll be 21 at the start of next season, but I also feel he has a good NBA future if he lands in the right system.


Nice breakdown...I checked out couple more videos of him. He's definitely a scoring PG and a guy you'll want to put in a 6th man roll. I like how he uses spin moves when attacking the basket. He looks like a slightly more efficient chucker than Blakeney, but I don't think I would pick him over Windler, Nowell, and Samanic at 38 if they're available.
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Post#757 » by kodo » Sun May 26, 2019 11:48 pm

Bol is probably better off at PF rather than C, like Porzingis. That brings up another bag of issues like speed and ballhandling for the forward position.
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Post#758 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Sun May 26, 2019 11:49 pm

Jvaughn wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:What are we thinking about Luguentz Dort as a possibility at 38?

Just noticed he came in at 222 lbs and 5% body fat. That's a ridiculous. Good length too (6'8.5" wingspan).

I hate his jumper. It doesn't have a prayer of being efficient until he scraps that rainbow shot. But the athletic upside is there and he's already a good defender. I'd love to see him or Carsen Edwards fall to us. I'm way more interested in that outcome than I am using #7 on White or Garland.


I could be way off, but he reminds me alot of Rawle.


I see why you say that tbh. But Dort strikes me as a higher level athlete and playmaker. Dude is an ox too. Watch the way he trucks guys in the first 90 seconds of this highlight. It literally made me lol.

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Post#759 » by Repeat 3-peat » Sun May 26, 2019 11:53 pm

holv03 wrote:Carsen Edwards is a 2nd round option. Lights out shooter. He had an amazing game against Virginia and in a lot of the plays he was being guarded by Hunter and still was able to knock it down.


I'd be happy with him at #38 as a microwave scorer off the bench but I've read that Philly has interest in him.

They have two 2nd round picks in front of us.
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Post#760 » by BullsInBuffalo » Mon May 27, 2019 12:19 am

My 2 cents...

White isn’t a bad player but I don’t see him as a fit with our guys.

Garland has serious upside but he doesn’t have much productivity and he’s very small and slight. That’s risky business trading up for him. He’s a much better fit than White though.

I like Hunter a lot.

Reddish has all the tools but has less “dog” in him than my 13 month old pansy of a Doberman. I wouldn’t hate it at 7 because of the clear upside but I doubt he ever reaches that ceiling.

Quick edit - huge pass on Bol

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