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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#761 » by IliketheBullsNBearstoo » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:09 pm

chicagoballer wrote:Hypothetically, let’s say trubisky gets injured in the second half, in a close game. Foles comes in and carries us to victory.

Dare I say we could be in for some foles magic? :lol:


Yeah but then we're stuck with Foles as the starter for the rest of the games? Forget about that lol
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#762 » by Bulls69 » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:27 pm

Kurt Heimlich wrote:Epic tank by Doug Pederson and the Eagles tonight. Can sympathize with Giants fans anger. Its amazing watching an old professional human like Pederson think he can bold face lie his way into convincing people that this wasn't a blatant tank job. A fitting end for such an absolute dumpster fire of a division I suppose.


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Post#763 » by dougthonus » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:44 pm

Kurt Heimlich wrote:Epic tank by Doug Pederson and the Eagles tonight. Can sympathize with Giants fans anger. Its amazing watching an old professional human like Pederson think he can bold face lie his way into convincing people that this wasn't a blatant tank job. A fitting end for such an absolute dumpster fire of a division I suppose.


Everyone knows he's lying, but he likely has to say it to avoid fines for the team and for himself.

As for Giants fans, screw Giants fans. I can get it if the Giants were 10-6 and were left in the cold because of someone's poor effort, but you were 6-10, the only reason you even could sniff the playoffs was due to the complete idiocy of making divisions mean something instead of just using total record. The Giants didn't deserve to go, and the likely scenario was that Washington wins that game anyway even if Hurts did remain in the game.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#764 » by Kurt Heimlich » Tue Jan 5, 2021 10:47 pm

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Kurt Heimlich wrote:Epic tank by Doug Pederson and the Eagles tonight. Can sympathize with Giants fans anger. Its amazing watching an old professional human like Pederson think he can bold face lie his way into convincing people that this wasn't a blatant tank job. A fitting end for such an absolute dumpster fire of a division I suppose.


This is why you handle your own business never depends on other teams to bail you out.


Yeah some teams get bailed out (daa Bears) by another team and some get hilariously screwed by a mockery of another team (sorry NYG).
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#765 » by Kurt Heimlich » Tue Jan 5, 2021 10:54 pm

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Kurt Heimlich wrote:Epic tank by Doug Pederson and the Eagles tonight. Can sympathize with Giants fans anger. Its amazing watching an old professional human like Pederson think he can bold face lie his way into convincing people that this wasn't a blatant tank job. A fitting end for such an absolute dumpster fire of a division I suppose.


Everyone knows he's lying, but he likely has to say it to avoid fines for the team and for himself.

As for Giants fans, screw Giants fans. I can get it if the Giants were 10-6 and were left in the cold because of someone's poor effort, but you were 6-10, the only reason you even could sniff the playoffs was due to the complete idiocy of making divisions mean something instead of just using total record. The Giants didn't deserve to go, and the likely scenario was that Washington wins that game anyway even if Hurts did remain in the game.


Yeah brutal look for him. Have to assume it was a top down strategic decision. Either that or he was shockingly oblivious how this would play out for him.

But are we pretending a 7-9 team (who were arguably gifted that 7th win) is somehow so much more deserving? It was a 3 point game when Pederson threw in the towel. Maybe the Redskins will be motivated by the disrespect and show out vs the Bucs and validate their inclusion. But as of now they're an all time joke of a playoff qualifier. And with that said the 6-10 Giants getting in would have been an even funnier joke, but at least it wouldn't have felt as lame as the Skins getting in as it played out.
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Post#766 » by dougthonus » Tue Jan 5, 2021 11:36 pm

Kurt Heimlich wrote:But are we pretending a 7-9 team (who were arguably gifted that 7th win) is somehow so much more deserving? It was a 3 point game when Pederson threw in the towel. Maybe the Redskins will be motivated by the disrespect and show out vs the Bucs and validate their inclusion. But as of now they're an all time joke of a playoff qualifier. And with that said the 6-10 Giants getting in would have been an even funnier joke, but at least it wouldn't have felt as lame as the Skins getting in as it played out.


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I'm not trumpeting up Washington. Yep, they caught a break. They had a better than 50/50 chance of winning that game anyway, but they caught a break that made it easier. Teams back into the playoffs all the time though and catch breaks. Look at the Bears, who didn't deserve one either.

I just don't care about the Giants whining. They would have broken the record for worst record of a playoff team ever (which Washington instead ended up tying). They weren't deserving. They weren't robbed.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#767 » by Susan » Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:06 am

Looks like Watson is getting traded.

Go for it Pace. Right that wrong.
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Post#768 » by patryk7754 » Sat Jan 9, 2021 7:02 pm

Unless this defense carries the team to the super bowl pagano needs to go. This defense has completely collapsed and a lot of it has to do with scheme. Pagano doesn’t know how to coach against the packers. The offense has significantly improved but the defense has been straight up bad
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Post#769 » by dice » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:34 am

Susan wrote:Looks like Watson is getting traded.

Go for it Pace. Right that wrong.

it wouldn't right the wrong. the wrong may have cost this team a super bowl 2 years ago and strong contention the past 2 seasons. after next year watson's salary explodes. which of course would be the perfect time for ryan pace to throw more assets than anyone else at the texans for the right to pay him that money, making the bears "texans north"

and then we'd have to give watson input on the next GM, as if he has any expertise at all in such matters
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#770 » by MisterRoy » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:11 am

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Susan wrote:Looks like Watson is getting traded.

Go for it Pace. Right that wrong.

it wouldn't right the wrong. the wrong may have cost this team a super bowl 2 years ago and strong contention the past 2 seasons. after next year watson's salary explodes. which of course would be the perfect time for ryan pace to throw more assets than anyone else at the texans for the right to pay him that money, making the bears "texans north"

and then we'd have to give watson input on the next GM, as if he has any expertise at all in such matters

Well, it's a start!


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Post#771 » by dice » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:22 am

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dice wrote:
Susan wrote:Looks like Watson is getting traded.

Go for it Pace. Right that wrong.

it wouldn't right the wrong. the wrong may have cost this team a super bowl 2 years ago and strong contention the past 2 seasons. after next year watson's salary explodes. which of course would be the perfect time for ryan pace to throw more assets than anyone else at the texans for the right to pay him that money, making the bears "texans north"

and then we'd have to give watson input on the next GM, as if he has any expertise at all in such matters

Well, it's a start!

if by "a start" you mean punting on the next few seasons in exchange for having no questions at the QB position for maybe a decade beyond that. which has some logic behind it, but...

i'm presuming, of course, that it would require a lot of assets to land watson
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#772 » by nitetrain8603 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:39 am

dice wrote:
MisterRoy wrote:
dice wrote:it wouldn't right the wrong. the wrong may have cost this team a super bowl 2 years ago and strong contention the past 2 seasons. after next year watson's salary explodes. which of course would be the perfect time for ryan pace to throw more assets than anyone else at the texans for the right to pay him that money, making the bears "texans north"

and then we'd have to give watson input on the next GM, as if he has any expertise at all in such matters

Well, it's a start!

if by "a start" you mean punting on the next few seasons in exchange for having no questions at the QB position for maybe a decade beyond that. which has some logic behind it, but...

i'm presuming, of course, that it would require a lot of assets to land watson


I'd do it if I were the Bears. I think you'd have to. Sure things damn near never become available.
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Post#773 » by dice » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:13 am

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MisterRoy wrote:Well, it's a start!

if by "a start" you mean punting on the next few seasons in exchange for having no questions at the QB position for maybe a decade beyond that. which has some logic behind it, but...

i'm presuming, of course, that it would require a lot of assets to land watson


I'd do it if I were the Bears. I think you'd have to. Sure things damn near never become available.

without even knowing what you have to give up?

everyone is available for the right price
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#774 » by patryk7754 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:40 am

dice wrote:
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dice wrote:it wouldn't right the wrong. the wrong may have cost this team a super bowl 2 years ago and strong contention the past 2 seasons. after next year watson's salary explodes. which of course would be the perfect time for ryan pace to throw more assets than anyone else at the texans for the right to pay him that money, making the bears "texans north"

and then we'd have to give watson input on the next GM, as if he has any expertise at all in such matters

Well, it's a start!

if by "a start" you mean punting on the next few seasons in exchange for having no questions at the QB position for maybe a decade beyond that. which has some logic behind it, but...

i'm presuming, of course, that it would require a lot of assets to land watson

So what? You need an at average QB to win a SB nowadays and the bear haven’t had that in 40 years. Doesn’t matter tho because we don’t have nearly enough to get him.

If the dolphins are smart they’ll trade Tua and at least one of their 1st (probably both) for Watson
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Post#775 » by Susan » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:50 am

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#776 » by dice » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:06 am

patryk7754 wrote:
dice wrote:
MisterRoy wrote:Well, it's a start!

if by "a start" you mean punting on the next few seasons in exchange for having no questions at the QB position for maybe a decade beyond that. which has some logic behind it, but...

i'm presuming, of course, that it would require a lot of assets to land watson

So what? You need an at average QB to win a SB nowadays and the bear haven’t had that in 40 years. Doesn’t matter tho because we don’t have nearly enough to get him.

If the dolphins are smart they’ll trade Tua and at least one of their 1st (probably both) for Watson

sure we have enough to trade for him. everyone does. draft picks in perpetuity

i don't think he gets traded
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Post#777 » by Dresden » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:40 pm

I've heard it could be as many as 4 or 5 first round picks. Like the Herschel Walker trade, or the time Ditka gave up a whole draft to get that RB from Texas. Watson is not elite either. He's better than Trubisky, but he's not on the level of a top 5 QB.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#778 » by patryk7754 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:58 pm

dice wrote:
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dice wrote:if by "a start" you mean punting on the next few seasons in exchange for having no questions at the QB position for maybe a decade beyond that. which has some logic behind it, but...

i'm presuming, of course, that it would require a lot of assets to land watson

So what? You need an at average QB to win a SB nowadays and the bear haven’t had that in 40 years. Doesn’t matter tho because we don’t have nearly enough to get him.

If the dolphins are smart they’ll trade Tua and at least one of their 1st (probably both) for Watson

sure we have enough to trade for him. everyone does. draft picks in perpetuity

i don't think he gets traded

It’ll take more than draft picks to trade for him. At least a pro bowler in addition to several picks would be my asking price. He’s the third best QB in the league. If the Texans trade him for anything less they’d be pretty stupid. But you’re right, he’s not getting traded
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Post#779 » by patryk7754 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:00 pm

Dresden wrote:I've heard it could be as many as 4 or 5 first round picks. Like the Herschel Walker trade, or the time Ditka gave up a whole draft to get that RB from Texas. Watson is not elite either. He's better than Trubisky, but he's not on the level of a top 5 QB.

Who is better
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Post#780 » by patryk7754 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:09 pm

Over 4800 passing yards 33 tds only 7 ints 112 passer rating isn’t elite

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