Options to fix the PF hole

[BullChit]

Welp.

1. I'm not saying I believe in it, or do it. I've not watched him enough over the course of his career to have a strong opinion.

2. I don't think our ownership would pay for it.

3. I don't think the other team would do it.

4. Maybe I'm looking more for entertainment? (I am curious to see what basketball junkies here think about it though)

5. This is still an internet message board, so who cares. What the heck, let's put it out there anyway cause I haven't seen the name at all here...

and I can't check on trade checkers due to a date restriction, but that'll be up by the deadline. At least if I select other players on his team with aggregate salaries equal to his individual number value - it works:

Bulls in:
- Julius Randle

Knicks in:
- Patrick Williams
- Coby White
- Troy Brown Jr.
- 1st round pick(s) w/light protection (a la Vuc trade)

Hahaha I love the progression of this post haha

Starts with a denial and into trying to convince everybody else that it's a fun idea and ends with you basically saying "f*** it this is an internet forum screw you if you think this is dumb" hahaha

I remember thinking last year that Randle would have been perfect to pair up with Zach, can't recall if that was pre or post Vuc trade (likely post) but I don't think it would work now on this team.

As constructed with this team I'd be worried about getting Jerami Grant shots so I couldn't imagine how Julius Randle would work.

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[ikeziskash]

I’ve gone from big move to smaller move. I think the Bulls are a tough PJ Tucker from having all they need.

There must be others who can d up, hit some 3s and play tough like him.

Also, he irritates me when playing against the bulls but what about Kelly Olynyk?

[coldfish]

I've been really hard on the "let's make a trade" train but man this team is fun to watch.

At this point, maybe you just pump Pat up with whatever Lebron takes in Miami and get going with that.

The games that are going to be interesting are the Milwaukee ones. They are the primary contender who can expose this problem.

[Leto]

I've been really hard on the "let's make a trade" train but man this team is fun to watch.

At this point, maybe you just pump Pat up with whatever Lebron takes in Miami and get going with that.

The games that are going to be interesting are the Milwaukee ones. They are the primary contender who can expose this problem.

Coby has figured out he can't play at 100 miles an hour. He has slowed his game down and is under control. I think we have to continue to let him develop along with Ayo. They seem to enjoy playing together.

PW will have very little pressure on him to perform offensively in terms of points. All he has to do is play hard defense and rebound. His offensive game game develop at his own pace. Its a perfect situation for him along side guys like Vuc and Demar.

I love this team.

[ikeziskash]

I've been really hard on the "let's make a trade" train but man this team is fun to watch.

At this point, maybe you just pump Pat up with whatever Lebron takes in Miami and get going with that.

The games that are going to be interesting are the Milwaukee ones. They are the primary contender who can expose this problem.

Coby has figured out he can't play at 100 miles an hour. He has slowed his game down and is under control. I think we have to continue to let him develop along with Ayo. They seem to enjoy playing together.

PW will have very little pressure on him to perform offensively in terms of points. All he has to do is play hard defense and rebound. His offensive game game develop at his own pace. Its a perfect situation for him along side guys like Vuc and Demar.

I love this team.

He had little pressure this year and played very low energy, low motor, low effort.

[sco]

Welp.

1. I'm not saying I believe in it, or do it. I've not watched him enough over the course of his career to have a strong opinion.

2. I don't think our ownership would pay for it.

3. I don't think the other team would do it.

4. Maybe I'm looking more for entertainment? (I am curious to see what basketball junkies here think about it though)

5. This is still an internet message board, so who cares. What the heck, let's put it out there anyway cause I haven't seen the name at all here...

and I can't check on trade checkers due to a date restriction, but that'll be up by the deadline. At least if I select other players on his team with aggregate salaries equal to his individual number value - it works:

Bulls in:
- Julius Randle

Knicks in:
- Patrick Williams
- Coby White
- Troy Brown Jr.
- 1st round pick(s) w/light protection (a la Vuc trade)

Hahaha I love the progression of this post haha

Starts with a denial and into trying to convince everybody else that it's a fun idea and ends with you basically saying "f*** it this is an internet forum screw you if you think this is dumb" hahaha

I remember thinking last year that Randle would have been perfect to pair up with Zach, can't recall if that was pre or post Vuc trade (likely post) but I don't think it would work now on this team.

As constructed with this team I'd be worried about getting Jerami Grant shots so I couldn't imagine how Julius Randle would work.

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Randle isn't a good fit here in that he's most effective as a ball dominant player. He's just an ok defender too.

Not that I could imagine the Knicks trading him, but the guy who'd be a real difference maker for us would be Taj. Dude is still near elite defensively and one of the few guys who could actually do something against Giannis.

[sco]

Unfortunately some of the teams that have the interesting PF's are doing better of late, like DAL. Right now my lead target is Covington. I think he'd be gettable using POR's 1st, and we might even be able to get another asset back as he's an expiring and not likely to be back, and POR can use their 1st (unprotected) as part of a package to go get a guy like Simmons.

[StunnerKO]

:roll:

I've been really hard on the "let's make a trade" train but man this team is fun to watch.

At this point, maybe you just pump Pat up with whatever Lebron takes in Miami and get going with that.

The games that are going to be interesting are the Milwaukee ones. They are the primary contender who can expose this problem.

Coby has figured out he can't play at 100 miles an hour. He has slowed his game down and is under control. I think we have to continue to let him develop along with Ayo. They seem to enjoy playing together.

PW will have very little pressure on him to perform offensively in terms of points. All he has to do is play hard defense and rebound. His offensive game game develop at his own pace. Its a perfect situation for him along side guys like Vuc and Demar.

I love this team.

He had little pressure this year and played very low energy, low motor, low effort.

He was coming off an ankle injury and it was like 5 games lol just when he was starting to be aggressive in the Knicks game he broke his wrist

[StunnerKO]

And hell no to Julius Randle keep that idiot from my team I like clowning Knicks fans about him

[Wingy]

Welp.

1. I'm not saying I believe in it, or do it. I've not watched him enough over the course of his career to have a strong opinion.

2. I don't think our ownership would pay for it.

3. I don't think the other team would do it.

4. Maybe I'm looking more for entertainment? (I am curious to see what basketball junkies here think about it though)

5. This is still an internet message board, so who cares. What the heck, let's put it out there anyway cause I haven't seen the name at all here...

and I can't check on trade checkers due to a date restriction, but that'll be up by the deadline. At least if I select other players on his team with aggregate salaries equal to his individual number value - it works:

Bulls in:
- Julius Randle

Knicks in:
- Patrick Williams
- Coby White
- Troy Brown Jr.
- 1st round pick(s) w/light protection (a la Vuc trade)

Hahaha I love the progression of this post haha

Starts with a denial and into trying to convince everybody else that it's a fun idea and ends with you basically saying "f*** it this is an internet forum screw you if you think this is dumb" hahaha

I remember thinking last year that Randle would have been perfect to pair up with Zach, can't recall if that was pre or post Vuc trade (likely post) but I don't think it would work now on this team.

As constructed with this team I'd be worried about getting Jerami Grant shots so I couldn't imagine how Julius Randle would work.

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Hahaha! Nah, the initial m “denial” was legit and genuine. End just means I’d still like to hear the basketball-related discussion about fit/results anyway even if it might be a pretty unrealistic idea.

It’s the type of thinking I presume good GMs have. Think outside the box sort of stuff that might lead to an actual good idea.

There are more players in the league beyond Grant, Barnes, Wood and Boucher. I’m confident AKME and their team are doing the work.

[ikeziskash]

:roll:

Coby has figured out he can't play at 100 miles an hour. He has slowed his game down and is under control. I think we have to continue to let him develop along with Ayo. They seem to enjoy playing together.

PW will have very little pressure on him to perform offensively in terms of points. All he has to do is play hard defense and rebound. His offensive game game develop at his own pace. Its a perfect situation for him along side guys like Vuc and Demar.

I love this team.

He had little pressure this year and played very low energy, low motor, low effort.

He was coming off an ankle injury and it was like 5 games lol just when he was starting to be aggressive in the Knicks game he broke his wrist

These are excuses. His effort was bad.

[ikeziskash]

I’m starting to think Olynyk fixes a lot of what the Bulls need.

[StunnerKO]

:roll:

He had little pressure this year and played very low energy, low motor, low effort.

He was coming off an ankle injury and it was like 5 games lol just when he was starting to be aggressive in the Knicks game he broke his wrist

These are excuses. His effort was bad.

you’re right ; when your coach says your conditioning is not there because you missed all of training camp and preseason ball because of your bad ankle it’s def pointless excuses shouldn’t factor in anything. This forum is hilarious man

[Mindcrime]

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense - grab Boogie. He'll be cheap, won't cost us any assets, fill some of the gap in frontcourt, would be interested since we are in contention. Seriously as a backup big why not?

[drosestruts]

There's days when I'm in the "yeah you trade one or both of White/Williams for an upgrade this season and put all your chips in" and times when I'm like - what can our $5M trade exception and picks get us?

On the latter days I'm looking at players like:

Trey Lyles
Gabriel Deck
Darius Bazley
Jarred Vanderbilt (Minny loves him - would probably require Portland 1st)
Brandon Clarke

or wondering if we could get Harry Giles on a two-way, like, why is Dotson still here?

[Wingy]

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense - grab Boogie. He'll be cheap, won't cost us any assets, fill some of the gap in frontcourt, would be interested since we are in contention. Seriously as a backup big why not?

Ugh.

Grab a highly recognizable name!!

Why not? Dude's a head case. This team has great chemistry. Let's bring in a washed up, not nearly as good as he thinks he is knucklehead!

We already have a solid backup center. People got down on Bradley when he started for Vuc. He's not a starter. Though he's just fine in his actual role as a backup center. Plays it well.

Boogie hot head is not worth potentially upsetting the apple cart when it's not even a position or role of need.

[Dresden]

I’m starting to think Olynyk fixes a lot of what the Bulls need.

He'd be a great piece to have- shoots well, has size, has experience, knows his role. Not a great rim protector and I'm not sure how agile he is as a perimeter defender, but we're not looking to trade for an all star here, just a role player who can contribute and won't hurt the team.

[Dresden]

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense - grab Boogie. He'll be cheap, won't cost us any assets, fill some of the gap in frontcourt, would be interested since we are in contention. Seriously as a backup big why not?

Ugh.

Grab a highly recognizable name!!

Why not? Dude's a head case. This team has great chemistry. Let's bring in a washed up, not nearly as good as he thinks he is knucklehead!

We already have a solid backup center. People got down on Bradley when he started for Vuc. He's not a starter. Though he's just fine in his actual role as a backup center. Plays it well.

Boogie hot head is not worth potentially upsetting the apple cart when it's not even a position or role of need.

People said the same thing about Dennis Rodman. And the Warriors have won titles bringing in players like this- David West, Barbosa, Livingston, Igoudala- not head cases, but "recognizable names" who people thought were washed up.

Bison Dele- same thing....he helped us win a title.

[jump]

The key words are "not head cases".

[HomoSapien]

Boogie hasn’t seemed particularly disruptive as a role player. We finally have the maturity to handle someone like him. We should take advantage of that.

Also simply referring to him as a recognizable name is doing a disservice to this discussion. He just showed how valuable he can be as an emergency big.