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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#761 » by SalmonsSuperfan » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:32 am

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Is that not a better option than attaching a pick to him in a salary dump?


Cutting a player is what you do to complete useless cancer with no redeemable value. That’s not Zach LaVine. And he would still get paid and count fully towards your salary cap. So it accomplishes nothing.


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2. It counts just as much against the cap to keep him as it does to cut him, except in one scenario he's nowhere near the team and out of everyone's mind.

I kinda thought you were joking with the original post but I guess not lol. Weird take about Zach's personality in relation to basketball. You know him? He's gonna rub off the wrong way on the pedophile we just traded for?
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Post#762 » by bullskokie » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:35 am

Didnt understand… still dont understand… wont try to understand some fans rationale. If we let DDR walk, Zach will be more valuable to this current young team than ever before thus preserving his value in the process so why rush to trade him away for some Doritos??
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Post#763 » by DASMACKDOWN » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:36 am

Is Fat Zach going to be a thing?

I feel if he is back on this roster, it will be like when Harden came back to Houston after he asked out.

I honestly think we should just leave him at home.
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Post#764 » by Muzbar » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:38 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Is Fat Zach going to be a thing?

I feel if he is back on this roster, it will be like when Harden came back to Houston after he asked out.

I honestly think we should just leave him at home.

Nah, as much flak as he gets on this board, Zach is a hard worker and always reports to camp in shape.
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Post#765 » by bullskokie » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:39 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Is Fat Zach going to be a thing?

I feel if he is back on this roster, it will be like when Harden came back to Houston after he asked out.

I honestly think we should just leave him at home.


It will be ok. He wont be the focal anyway… It’ll be Coby, Giddey and Buzelis…
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Post#766 » by Dez » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:41 am

PG not re-signing with the Clippers, makes me think either DeRozan or LaVine in play here.
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Post#767 » by chitowndish » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:41 am

I also don’t believe these reports I don’t think the Bulls would attach much and I think teams are hoping for a fire sale but AK has no real pressure to move Zach right now. All he has to do is let DDR walk and Zach fits pretty well with these young guys he’s going to have a strong bounce back year because he has no choice and I do think these young guys could use an efficient shooter. My main worry is we win too many games with Zach and the young guys but he would help their development I think because without him I could see that offense struggle and if guys aren’t open and there are scoring droughts that can have a negative impact but with Zach and good ball movement guys should get open looks. It’s Zach + DDR that kill opportunities but I think one of them is helpful.

I could also see a world where Zach plays well and realizes the grass isn’t greener and patches things up with Billy and I think Billy is laid back enough not to hold a grudge. Zach really can fit well on this team with Buzelis and to help rim protect on D it will cover some defensive mistakes and Giddey handling the ball will help with decision making and let Zach focus on scoring like Beverly did. If those things happen he fits right in with these guys and they need another shooter.
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Post#768 » by bullskokie » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:42 am

But here is my take. DDR walks and Zach will be back to All-Star Zach I can bet on that. It will be that year we shock the league, I promise!
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Post#769 » by DASMACKDOWN » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:43 am

bullskokie wrote:Didnt understand… still dont understand… wont try to understand some fans rationale. If we let DDR walk, Zach will be more valuable to this current young team than ever before thus preserving his value in the process so why rush to trade him away for some Doritos??


Its really not that simple. It's been a long brewing divorce.

I think you are looking at this wrong.

The Bulls dont necessarily want to get rid of Zach "the player"

The Bulls want to get rid of Zach "the price tag"

That is it. Nothing more.

From a technical standpoint, Zach on this current team is a great fit. But Zach is one foot in and one foot out. This relationship isnt going to get repaired. If Zach balls out, its not like we will keep him. So the end result is always the same.

It is more important for the Bulls to shed is salary, then to get the best package. That much is clear.
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Post#770 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:52 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Is Fat Zach going to be a thing?

I feel if he is back on this roster, it will be like when Harden came back to Houston after he asked out.

I honestly think we should just leave him at home.



Zach literally made a social media post recently to the effect that he is his prime age wise, ready to prove all the doubters wrong and have one his best seasons. He will never pull a Harden.
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Post#771 » by MGB8 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:58 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:
bullskokie wrote:Didnt understand… still dont understand… wont try to understand some fans rationale. If we let DDR walk, Zach will be more valuable to this current young team than ever before thus preserving his value in the process so why rush to trade him away for some Doritos??


Its really not that simple. It's been a long brewing divorce.

I think you are looking at this wrong.

The Bulls dont necessarily want to get rid of Zach "the player"

The Bulls want to get rid of Zach "the price tag"

That is it. Nothing more.

From a technical standpoint, Zach on this current team is a great fit. But Zach is one foot in and one foot out. This relationship isnt going to get repaired. If Zach balls out, its not like we will keep him. So the end result is always the same.

It is more important for the Bulls to shed is salary, then to get the best package. That much is clear.



No. As in 100% NO.

The ONLY “benefit” of shedding Zach’s salary is the gift of massively overpaying aging, declining, no defense, no three, ISO DDR. That is it. Not any free agent. Not any other move. Just overpaying to keep the one guy who, yes, gets you wins that you wouldn’t otherwise get - but also causes you losses in others with team and soul killing ISO ball.

No thanks. DDR-on-the-Bulls delenda est.
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Post#772 » by Axl Rose » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:59 am

Where was the team desperately trying to get rid of a 25+ scorer that can shoot 3's and create his own shot when we needed them in 2011? :lol: His perceived value is so out of whack it's offensive. He isn't Ben Simmons.
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Post#773 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:06 am

MGB8 wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:
bullskokie wrote:Didnt understand… still dont understand… wont try to understand some fans rationale. If we let DDR walk, Zach will be more valuable to this current young team than ever before thus preserving his value in the process so why rush to trade him away for some Doritos??


Its really not that simple. It's been a long brewing divorce.

I think you are looking at this wrong.

The Bulls dont necessarily want to get rid of Zach "the player"

The Bulls want to get rid of Zach "the price tag"

That is it. Nothing more.

From a technical standpoint, Zach on this current team is a great fit. But Zach is one foot in and one foot out. This relationship isnt going to get repaired. If Zach balls out, its not like we will keep him. So the end result is always the same.

It is more important for the Bulls to shed is salary, then to get the best package. That much is clear.



No. As in 100% NO.

The ONLY “benefit” of shedding Zach’s salary is the gift of massively overpaying aging, declining, no defense, no three, ISO DDR. That is it. Not any free agent. Not any other move. Just overpaying to keep the one guy who, yes, gets you wins that you wouldn’t otherwise get - but also causes you losses in other team soul killing ISO ball.

No thanks. DDR-on-the-Bulls delenda est.


Exactly. We do not need to shed salary this Summer unless it is to make the mistake of resigning DeRozan.
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Post#774 » by League Circles » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:10 am

Warriors preferred to waive Chris Paul rather than trade him for Zach lol. No one wants Zach.
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Post#775 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:23 am

League Circles wrote:Warriors preferred to waive Chris Paul rather than trade him for Zach lol. No one wants Zach.


I don’t believe we wanted Wiggins. Rumor nonsense.
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Post#776 » by Indomitable » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:31 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
League Circles wrote:Warriors preferred to waive Chris Paul rather than trade him for Zach lol. No one wants Zach.


I don’t believe we wanted Wiggins. Rumor nonsense.

The Bulls are making another mistake. He is hear do not make another Lauri trade.

Stop moving in panic. Hey you have Ball off the books after the season and Vuck on his last season.

This is a panic move if this is what is happening. I could careless if Billy and Zach like each other.

He plays the way you want or you bench him.

His pride hopefully is hurt.
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Post#777 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:39 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
MGB8 wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:
Its really not that simple. It's been a long brewing divorce.

I think you are looking at this wrong.

The Bulls dont necessarily want to get rid of Zach "the player"

The Bulls want to get rid of Zach "the price tag"

That is it. Nothing more.

From a technical standpoint, Zach on this current team is a great fit. But Zach is one foot in and one foot out. This relationship isnt going to get repaired. If Zach balls out, its not like we will keep him. So the end result is always the same.

It is more important for the Bulls to shed is salary, then to get the best package. That much is clear.



No. As in 100% NO.

The ONLY “benefit” of shedding Zach’s salary is the gift of massively overpaying aging, declining, no defense, no three, ISO DDR. That is it. Not any free agent. Not any other move. Just overpaying to keep the one guy who, yes, gets you wins that you wouldn’t otherwise get - but also causes you losses in other team soul killing ISO ball.

No thanks. DDR-on-the-Bulls delenda est.


Exactly. We do not need to shed salary this Summer unless it is to make the mistake of resigning DeRozan.


It’s very, very likely that the decision to part ways with DeMar was cemented the moment they traded for Giddey, and that the push to trade Zach is on a completely separate track.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#778 » by Indomitable » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:42 am

MGB8 wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:
bullskokie wrote:Didnt understand… still dont understand… wont try to understand some fans rationale. If we let DDR walk, Zach will be more valuable to this current young team than ever before thus preserving his value in the process so why rush to trade him away for some Doritos??


Its really not that simple. It's been a long brewing divorce.

I think you are looking at this wrong.

The Bulls dont necessarily want to get rid of Zach "the player"

The Bulls want to get rid of Zach "the price tag"

That is it. Nothing more.

From a technical standpoint, Zach on this current team is a great fit. But Zach is one foot in and one foot out. This relationship isnt going to get repaired. If Zach balls out, its not like we will keep him. So the end result is always the same.

It is more important for the Bulls to shed is salary, then to get the best package. That much is clear.



No. As in 100% NO.

The ONLY “benefit” of shedding Zach’s salary is the gift of massively overpaying aging, declining, no defense, no three, ISO DDR. That is it. Not any free agent. Not any other move. Just overpaying to keep the one guy who, yes, gets you wins that you wouldn’t otherwise get - but also causes you losses in others with team and soul killing ISO ball.

No thanks. DDR-on-the-Bulls delenda est.

This is pretty much my feelings in a nutshell.
DDR defense and rebounding will only get worst.

I would rather win 30 games with the young players and then watch this another season of DDR.
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Post#779 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:43 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
MGB8 wrote:

No. As in 100% NO.

The ONLY “benefit” of shedding Zach’s salary is the gift of massively overpaying aging, declining, no defense, no three, ISO DDR. That is it. Not any free agent. Not any other move. Just overpaying to keep the one guy who, yes, gets you wins that you wouldn’t otherwise get - but also causes you losses in other team soul killing ISO ball.

No thanks. DDR-on-the-Bulls delenda est.


Exactly. We do not need to shed salary this Summer unless it is to make the mistake of resigning DeRozan.


It’s very, very likely that the decision to part ways with DeMar was cemented the moment they traded for Giddey, and that the push to trade Zach is on a completely separate track.


We need to move on from both. I just don't understand the perceived utter desperation to trade Zach. It makes no sense to me if it involves taking back bad contracts and/or attaching assets.
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Post#780 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:02 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
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WindyCityBorn wrote:
Exactly. We do not need to shed salary this Summer unless it is to make the mistake of resigning DeRozan.


It’s very, very likely that the decision to part ways with DeMar was cemented the moment they traded for Giddey, and that the push to trade Zach is on a completely separate track.


We need to move on from both. I just don't understand the perceived utter desperation to trade Zach. It makes no sense to me if it involves taking back bad contracts and/or attaching assets.


Attaching a first would piss me off, don’t get me wrong. But taking on a better-but-still-bad contract (like Wiggins) would be, in my mind, a recognition that hanging onto Zach into the season does carry risk.
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