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This trade would be perfect. I'd draft Emmanwori at #18, Tyliek Williams at #39, Ersery at #41 and Quinshon Judkins at #50.
This trade would be perfect. I'd draft Emmanwori at #18, Tyliek Williams at #39, Ersery at #41 and Quinshon Judkins at #50.
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Almost Retired wrote:https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/seattle-seahawks/news/seahawks-predicted-trade-bears-draft-4-time-award-offensive-lineman/7516ffbc12deaefb2f35a066
This trade would be perfect. I'd draft Emmanwori at #18, Tyliek Williams at #39, Ersery at #41 and Quinshon Judkins at #50.
I’m torn. Would be very tempted to just take Campbell at 10 if he’s there, even though I’ve been a huge advocate of trading back. Campbell could be a swift army knife around the line next year while being groomed to take over LT next year.
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Dresden wrote:What worries me about Jeanty is that his main ability is bouncing off tacklers. Is that going to work in the NFL? In college, he mainly played against second tier defenders. The one defense he did play against that was top rated, Penn State, shut him down pretty effectively. He still ran for 130 yards, but needed something like 28 carries to do so. I didn't see him break many tackles in that game- they made him look pretty ordinary.
He's also pretty small, and not super fast. If they draft him, I hope they know what they're doing. I'd also hate to pass on him, and then see him become a top 3 RB for the next 5 years, too. Gotta hope they get it right.
Same with Campbell too- some people think he'll be a really, really good OT in the NFL. Others think he'll have trouble due to his short arms.
The safest pick might be Tyler Warren, but how much impact do TE's really have?
If they see an Edge or DT they like, that might be the way to go. We still don't have a legit star on the d line.
If you’re looking for a Jeanty comp, look no further than Maurice Jones-Drew. Same build same size and similar running styles. Jeanty will be fine, top 10 at his position soon as he takes his first snap, his vision is undeniable.
As far as the Penn St game where they absolutely stacked the box and forced Boise to beat them another way than on the ground. Jeanty still managed to crack over 100 yards.. also Penn St. wasn’t just a “good defense” they were arguably the best or no less than a top 3 defense in the nation. Going against Boise who had only ONE offensive threat. Jeanty completely destroyed Oregon another power house
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Almost Retired wrote:https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/seattle-seahawks/news/seahawks-predicted-trade-bears-draft-4-time-award-offensive-lineman/7516ffbc12deaefb2f35a066
This trade would be perfect. I'd draft Emmanwori at #18, Tyliek Williams at #39, Ersery at #41 and Quinshon Judkins at #50.
I’ve been watching a lot of Emmanwori. Love that kid. He’s a game changer. Want him after a trade back.
If Graham and Jeanty are gone I’d want a trade back for Emmanwori.
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Hold That wrote:Dresden wrote:What worries me about Jeanty is that his main ability is bouncing off tacklers. Is that going to work in the NFL? In college, he mainly played against second tier defenders. The one defense he did play against that was top rated, Penn State, shut him down pretty effectively. He still ran for 130 yards, but needed something like 28 carries to do so. I didn't see him break many tackles in that game- they made him look pretty ordinary.
He's also pretty small, and not super fast. If they draft him, I hope they know what they're doing. I'd also hate to pass on him, and then see him become a top 3 RB for the next 5 years, too. Gotta hope they get it right.
Same with Campbell too- some people think he'll be a really, really good OT in the NFL. Others think he'll have trouble due to his short arms.
The safest pick might be Tyler Warren, but how much impact do TE's really have?
If they see an Edge or DT they like, that might be the way to go. We still don't have a legit star on the d line.
If you’re looking for a Jeanty comp, look no further than Maurice Jones-Drew. Same build same size and similar running styles. Jeanty will be fine, top 10 at his position soon as he takes his first snap, his vision is undeniable.
As far as the Penn St game where they absolutely stacked the box and forced Boise to beat them another way than on the ground. Jeanty still managed to crack over 100 yards.. also Penn St. wasn’t just a “good defense” they were arguably the best or no less than a top 3 defense in the nation. Going against Boise who had only ONE offensive threat. Jeanty completely destroyed Oregon another power house
Overall, I agree, and he's probably the player I would put at that top of the list at #10. I just have a little fear that he won't stack up v. NFL defenders.
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Dresden wrote:Hold That wrote:Dresden wrote:What worries me about Jeanty is that his main ability is bouncing off tacklers. Is that going to work in the NFL? In college, he mainly played against second tier defenders. The one defense he did play against that was top rated, Penn State, shut him down pretty effectively. He still ran for 130 yards, but needed something like 28 carries to do so. I didn't see him break many tackles in that game- they made him look pretty ordinary.
He's also pretty small, and not super fast. If they draft him, I hope they know what they're doing. I'd also hate to pass on him, and then see him become a top 3 RB for the next 5 years, too. Gotta hope they get it right.
Same with Campbell too- some people think he'll be a really, really good OT in the NFL. Others think he'll have trouble due to his short arms.
The safest pick might be Tyler Warren, but how much impact do TE's really have?
If they see an Edge or DT they like, that might be the way to go. We still don't have a legit star on the d line.
If you’re looking for a Jeanty comp, look no further than Maurice Jones-Drew. Same build same size and similar running styles. Jeanty will be fine, top 10 at his position soon as he takes his first snap, his vision is undeniable.
As far as the Penn St game where they absolutely stacked the box and forced Boise to beat them another way than on the ground. Jeanty still managed to crack over 100 yards.. also Penn St. wasn’t just a “good defense” they were arguably the best or no less than a top 3 defense in the nation. Going against Boise who had only ONE offensive threat. Jeanty completely destroyed Oregon another power house
Overall, I agree, and he's probably the player I would put at that top of the list at #10. I just have a little fear that he won't stack up v. NFL defenders.
I am less worried because of the fact that he has so much potential as a receiver out of the backfield. Getting the ball behind the big bodies where he only has to bob and weave against LBs and the Secondary and not take so much punishment getting through the line. Ben Johnson could work magic with this guy. In terms of physique he has a Walter Payton vibe to him. Bigger in fact. Just jacked. He could be a Christian McCaffrey type weapon with the receiving in addition to runs from scrimmage. Even though I'd prefer a trade down from #10 I would not be too upset if Poles drafted him. Because that would come with Ben Johnson's blessing and I trust his ability to know what to do with his offensive weapons.
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Almost Retired wrote:https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/seattle-seahawks/news/seahawks-predicted-trade-bears-draft-4-time-award-offensive-lineman/7516ffbc12deaefb2f35a066
This trade would be perfect. I'd draft Emmanwori at #18, Tyliek Williams at #39, Ersery at #41 and Quinshon Judkins at #50.
I want SEA's 2026 first instead of 2025 50th pick, if the Bears are moving down more then 5 spots.
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well, there’s no universe where you’re getting that, so
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I feel like Jeanty is going to be gone before we draft and if he is there I'll be surprised. I didn't take too much from our FO not being at Jeanty's pro day since they were at Ohio but I do take it seriously that LV sent their GM and I think the Saints had a strong presence at Jeanty's pro day as well. LV has a lot of holes so you never know they could go in a different direction but it seems like if LV pass on him the Saints will grab him. I'm not too worried about it though I just either trade down for Emmanwori or like I mentioned before I just pick Emmanwori up at 10 if I have to that guy looks like a stud and our secondary did fall apart toward the end of the year so it is a bit of a need for us and this dude looks like he was made in a lab or something. 6'5" fast AF, leaps like a MFer, elite tackler and hits like a truck like what else do you need. Sounds like he was helping lead communicate and organize the defense as well so he has a good understanding of the game.
I'm good with Warren too but I worry a bit about it taking him so long to put it together in college eventually it becomes being a man playing against boys so the fact that it took him that long makes me wonder how much of it was that guys are still developing physically over that time and then having more experience. I am not too concerned about this though as he does look good and have the production and I think we are actually a great landing spot for him. I feel similarly to what Almost Retired said about Jeanty on this one where I am not too strongly attached to Warren but if the Bears pick him I feel confident that Johnson has a good idea of how he will use him and he will really add to our offensive flexibility.
I'm good with Warren too but I worry a bit about it taking him so long to put it together in college eventually it becomes being a man playing against boys so the fact that it took him that long makes me wonder how much of it was that guys are still developing physically over that time and then having more experience. I am not too concerned about this though as he does look good and have the production and I think we are actually a great landing spot for him. I feel similarly to what Almost Retired said about Jeanty on this one where I am not too strongly attached to Warren but if the Bears pick him I feel confident that Johnson has a good idea of how he will use him and he will really add to our offensive flexibility.
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El Ridda wrote:Almost Retired wrote:https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/seattle-seahawks/news/seahawks-predicted-trade-bears-draft-4-time-award-offensive-lineman/7516ffbc12deaefb2f35a066
This trade would be perfect. I'd draft Emmanwori at #18, Tyliek Williams at #39, Ersery at #41 and Quinshon Judkins at #50.
I’m torn. Would be very tempted to just take Campbell at 10 if he’s there, even though I’ve been a huge advocate of trading back. Campbell could be a swift army knife around the line next year while being groomed to take over LT next year.
and if he can't handle LT, then what?
but that may well be the pick given that poles talked about competition on the O-line. What else would he have been talking about other than LT?
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I don’t think the Raiders take Jeanty. It’s just smoke. They can fill more holes trading down, which I believe they will.
The Cowboys could look to trade up for him, that’s the team I’d be most worried about. Saints are the sleeper @ #9.
The Cowboys could look to trade up for him, that’s the team I’d be most worried about. Saints are the sleeper @ #9.
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nomorezorro wrote:well, there’s no universe where you’re getting that, so
And that is fine with me. I rather keep the 10th pick.
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For me, players I Must draft at 10:
Mason Graham
Will Campbell
Kelvin Banks
Ashton Jeanty
No trade outs or back, all 4 would be immediate impact starters. I feel good at 10 since I believe at least 1 of those guys would be available.
Don’t want Tyler Warren at 10 at all. Good player, NOT bowers, more of a better Kmet. I would rather Fannin / Arriyo, Taylor at 41 or 72 over Warren for the Bears. Kmet is inline TE and we need a Y pass catching TE.
Also don’t get the Membou hype at all. Classic combine draft riser. Good prospect, but is a project not a finished product. A lot of loafs on tape for Membou and effort looks like he doesn’t love football.
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Mason Graham
Will Campbell
Kelvin Banks
Ashton Jeanty
No trade outs or back, all 4 would be immediate impact starters. I feel good at 10 since I believe at least 1 of those guys would be available.
Don’t want Tyler Warren at 10 at all. Good player, NOT bowers, more of a better Kmet. I would rather Fannin / Arriyo, Taylor at 41 or 72 over Warren for the Bears. Kmet is inline TE and we need a Y pass catching TE.
Also don’t get the Membou hype at all. Classic combine draft riser. Good prospect, but is a project not a finished product. A lot of loafs on tape for Membou and effort looks like he doesn’t love football.
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I could see Jaylin Noel lasting until #72. Perfect size for the Slot, with good speed (4.39) I was liking Restrepo but his measured speed was disappointing.
I could see Jaylin Noel lasting until #72. Perfect size for the Slot, with good speed (4.39) I was liking Restrepo but his measured speed was disappointing.
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1985Bear wrote:For me, players I Must draft at 10:
Mason Graham
Will Campbell
Kelvin Banks
Ashton Jeanty
No trade outs or back, all 4 would be immediate impact starters. I feel good at 10 since I believe at least 1 of those guys would be available.
Don’t want Tyler Warren at 10 at all. Good player, NOT bowers, more of a better Kmet. I would rather Fannin / Arriyo, Taylor at 41 or 72 over Warren for the Bears. Kmet is inline TE and we need a Y pass catching TE.
Also don’t get the Membou hype at all. Classic combine draft riser. Good prospect, but is a project not a finished product. A lot of loafs on tape for Membou and effort looks like he doesn’t love football.
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What do you make of the concerns that Campbell and Banks may not be able to play LT in the NFL?
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dice wrote:El Ridda wrote:Almost Retired wrote:https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/seattle-seahawks/news/seahawks-predicted-trade-bears-draft-4-time-award-offensive-lineman/7516ffbc12deaefb2f35a066
This trade would be perfect. I'd draft Emmanwori at #18, Tyliek Williams at #39, Ersery at #41 and Quinshon Judkins at #50.
I’m torn. Would be very tempted to just take Campbell at 10 if he’s there, even though I’ve been a huge advocate of trading back. Campbell could be a swift army knife around the line next year while being groomed to take over LT next year.
and if he can't handle LT, then what?
but that may well be the pick given that poles talked about competition on the O-line. What else would he have been talking about other than LT?
Well if we don't take a LT at 10, we'll likely take one in round 2, so there's your competition for Braxton.
I hope at minimum, two of our first 4 picks are used on the O line or D line. Of the other two, one will almost surely be spent on a RB. Either a CB or safety would make sense with the other.
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Dresden wrote:1985Bear wrote:For me, players I Must draft at 10:
Mason Graham
Will Campbell
Kelvin Banks
Ashton Jeanty
No trade outs or back, all 4 would be immediate impact starters. I feel good at 10 since I believe at least 1 of those guys would be available.
Don’t want Tyler Warren at 10 at all. Good player, NOT bowers, more of a better Kmet. I would rather Fannin / Arriyo, Taylor at 41 or 72 over Warren for the Bears. Kmet is inline TE and we need a Y pass catching TE.
Also don’t get the Membou hype at all. Classic combine draft riser. Good prospect, but is a project not a finished product. A lot of loafs on tape for Membou and effort looks like he doesn’t love football.
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What do you make of the concerns that Campbell and Banks may not be able to play LT in the NFL?
I have been following Draft Dr Phil at the Tape Never Lies Network for a few drafts now. Phil and his dad are O-line coaches and break down tape live of all these prospects over 5-6 games.
The tape shows that Banks and Campbell have the footwork, power and athleticism to play LT. It’s lazy analysis to look at measurables like 1/4 of an inch arm length and disregard years of excellent tape.
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Almost Retired wrote:https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/there-is-one-wr-the-chicago-bears-quietly-love-in-2025-draft
I could see Jaylin Noel lasting until #72. Perfect size for the Slot, with good speed (4.39) I was liking Restrepo but his measured speed was disappointing.
Why can't DJ Moore play in the slot? He's small, quick, great hands, great after the catch.
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Dresden wrote:Almost Retired wrote:https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/there-is-one-wr-the-chicago-bears-quietly-love-in-2025-draft
I could see Jaylin Noel lasting until #72. Perfect size for the Slot, with good speed (4.39) I was liking Restrepo but his measured speed was disappointing.
Why can't DJ Moore play in the slot? He's small, quick, great hands, great after the catch.
Physically he would be a good fit in the slot. But would his ego allow him to change for the good of the team? He's WR-1 now. And if he moved into the slot and Odunze became WR-1 then we'd need to take a WR in the Draft to fill in as WR2. There are guys available in the 3nd and 3rd that might fit the bill, but WRs usually have trouble adjusting to the big show in their rookie season.
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WR1 isn’t dependent on who’s lining up inside/outside. if johnson wants to use moore in the slot he’ll play there in 3WR sets and play outside in 2WR sets. (and zaccheaus has experience playing outside, so we wouldn’t be reliant on a rookie to produce right away)
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