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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#781 » by Guru » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:11 am

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Cutting a player is what you do to complete useless cancer with no redeemable value. That’s not Zach LaVine. And he would still get paid and count fully towards your salary cap. So it accomplishes nothing.


1. He is
2. It counts just as much against the cap to keep him as it does to cut him, except in one scenario he's nowhere near the team and out of everyone's mind.

I kinda thought you were joking with the original post but I guess not lol. Weird take about Zach's personality in relation to basketball. You know him? He's gonna rub off the wrong way on the pedophile we just traded for?


Pedophile?
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Post#782 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:11 am

If no one wants him I’m ok with just benching him for the whole season. Stay home for the year and maybe someone on another team gets hurt and they need a SG. Keep him away from the kids. He’s cancerous. You don’t willingly invite cancer into the organism even if it sometimes tastes and looks like sweet candy.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#783 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:14 am

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SalmonsSuperfan wrote:
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1. He is
2. It counts just as much against the cap to keep him as it does to cut him, except in one scenario he's nowhere near the team and out of everyone's mind.

I kinda thought you were joking with the original post but I guess not lol. Weird take about Zach's personality in relation to basketball. You know him? He's gonna rub off the wrong way on the pedophile we just traded for?


Pedophile?


Just ignore it. Apparently a 17 year old girl lying to get in an 18 and over club to hook up with a 19 year old makes him a pedophile to some people.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#784 » by burlydee » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:16 am

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SalmonsSuperfan wrote:I kinda thought you were joking with the original post but I guess not lol. Weird take about Zach's personality in relation to basketball. You know him? He's gonna rub off the wrong way on the pedophile we just traded for?


Pedophile?


Just ignore it. Apparently a 17 year old girl lying to get in an 18 and over club to hook up with a 19 year old makes him a pedophile to some people.


Really disgusting ppl throw around this stuff to win arguments on a message board. One of the downsides of the internet.
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Post#785 » by Guru » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:16 am

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League Circles wrote:Warriors preferred to waive Chris Paul rather than trade him for Zach lol. No one wants Zach.


I don’t believe we wanted Wiggins. Rumor nonsense.


The trade also doesn't work. Wiggins+Paul is too much. Bulls would take back 56 to the Warriors 43. Also I am not sure the Warriors can aggregate players.
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Post#786 » by Guru » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:18 am

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Exactly. We do not need to shed salary this Summer unless it is to make the mistake of resigning DeRozan.


It’s very, very likely that the decision to part ways with DeMar was cemented the moment they traded for Giddey, and that the push to trade Zach is on a completely separate track.


We need to move on from both. I just don't understand the perceived utter desperation to trade Zach. It makes no sense to me if it involves taking back bad contracts and/or attaching assets.


YES! What would be the rush to get him off the team?

There isn't even a rush to get him IF he was getting back firsts. Those firsts will be next year.

Zach is a very good basketball player if not our best.
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Post#787 » by SalmonsSuperfan » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:50 am

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Pedophile?


Just ignore it. Apparently a 17 year old girl lying to get in an 18 and over club to hook up with a 19 year old makes him a pedophile to some people.


Really disgusting ppl throw around this stuff to win arguments on a message board. One of the downsides of the internet.

clearly it wasn't to win an argument, it objectively makes my argument less effective. I did it to piss you guys off and amuse myself because cognitive dissonance is funny to me.

also, that poster just made up his own version of events. the girl was 15. so either he's a child molester or he's a sexual freak who is too stupid to make sure he's not **** a child. but yeah, I'm the disgusting one, not the millionaire celebrity molesting teens.

literally your only argument in favor of Giddey is "it's just basketball and he's a good basketball player, not a role model". I don't know why you don't just say that. Then it doesn't look like you're defending statutory rape. I wonder which one is more disgusting. I don't think you're disgusting, I just think you're stupid.
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Post#788 » by Guru » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:54 am

SalmonsSuperfan wrote:
burlydee wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
Just ignore it. Apparently a 17 year old girl lying to get in an 18 and over club to hook up with a 19 year old makes him a pedophile to some people.


Really disgusting ppl throw around this stuff to win arguments on a message board. One of the downsides of the internet.

clearly it wasn't to win an argument, it objectively makes my argument less effective. I did it to piss you guys off and amuse myself because cognitive dissonance is funny to me.

also, that poster just made up his own version of events. the girl was 15. so either he's a child molester or he's a sexual freak who is too stupid to make sure he's not **** a child. but yeah, I'm the disgusting one, not the millionaire celebrity molesting teens.

literally your only argument in favor of Giddey is "it's just basketball and he's a good basketball player, not a role model". I don't know why you don't just say that. Then it doesn't look like you're defending statutory rape. I wonder which one is more disgusting. I don't think you're disgusting, I just think you're stupid.


I can't find anything that confirms she was 15. And they dated for 1 day.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#789 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:57 am

SalmonsSuperfan wrote:
burlydee wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
Just ignore it. Apparently a 17 year old girl lying to get in an 18 and over club to hook up with a 19 year old makes him a pedophile to some people.


Really disgusting ppl throw around this stuff to win arguments on a message board. One of the downsides of the internet.

clearly it wasn't to win an argument, it objectively makes my argument less effective. I did it to piss you guys off and amuse myself because cognitive dissonance is funny to me.

also, that poster just made up his own version of events. the girl was 15. so either he's a child molester or he's a sexual freak who is too stupid to make sure he's not **** a child. but yeah, I'm the disgusting one, not the millionaire celebrity molesting teens.

literally your only argument in favor of Giddey is "it's just basketball and he's a good basketball player, not a role model". I don't know why you don't just say that. Then it doesn't look like you're defending statutory rape. I wonder which one is more disgusting. I don't think you're disgusting, I just think you're stupid.


Post proof she was 15 or stop saying it. Not many high school juniors are 15 years old. I see more people saying 17 so prove it wrong.
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Post#790 » by burlydee » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:58 am

SalmonsSuperfan wrote:
burlydee wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
Just ignore it. Apparently a 17 year old girl lying to get in an 18 and over club to hook up with a 19 year old makes him a pedophile to some people.


Really disgusting ppl throw around this stuff to win arguments on a message board. One of the downsides of the internet.

clearly it wasn't to win an argument, it objectively makes my argument less effective. I did it to piss you guys off and amuse myself because cognitive dissonance is funny to me.

also, that poster just made up his own version of events. the girl was 15. so either he's a child molester or he's a sexual freak who is too stupid to make sure he's not **** a child. but yeah, I'm the disgusting one, not the millionaire celebrity molesting teens.

literally your only argument in favor of Giddey is "it's just basketball and he's a good basketball player, not a role model". I don't know why you don't just say that. Then it doesn't look like you're defending statutory rape. I wonder which one is more disgusting. I don't think you're disgusting, I just think you're stupid.


If you actually cared about the issue you wouldn't refer to it so callously. If you think he's a predator you're more than welcome to not root for him or watch the team. But randomly bringing it up to WIN SOME stupid argument is classless.

I didn't make any argument about the situation or Giddy. Just the classless dolt bringing it up to shock people for attention.
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Post#791 » by RSP83 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:11 am

The Zach Lavine no market thing is getting too ridiculous that it's starting to not make any sense. Is it possible that Klutch and some mainstream media are cooking this to do whatever their agenda is? The "Zach No Market" message seems to be like just being thrown out there and spread very quickly like wildfire. Some of the rumors like the offer to GSW for Wiggins and CP3 may be true, but feels a bit framed to show how desperate the Bulls is. I'm sure there many talks going on involving Zach, but they just decided to report selectively.
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Post#792 » by Guru » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:20 am

RSP83 wrote:The Zach Lavine no market thing is getting too ridiculous that it's starting to not make any sense. Is it possible that Klutch and some mainstream media are cooking this to do whatever their agenda is? The "Zach No Market" message seems to be like just being thrown out there and spread very quickly like wildfire. Some of the rumors like the offer to GSW for Wiggins and CP3 may be true, but feels a bit framed to show how desperate the Bulls is. I'm sure there many talks going on involving Zach, but they just decided to report selectively.


I think it's just constant partial truths and what is reported is the most bombastic part. We may have had discussions and they discussed both Wiggins and Paul....but that puts it at 56-43 and then has us going near the luxury tax for players we don't want? Why would we take in more cash for players we don't know and don't want instead of keeping the player we know.
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Post#793 » by SalmonsSuperfan » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:22 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:Post proof she was 15 or stop saying it. Not many high school juniors are 15 years old. I see more people saying 17 so prove it wrong.

post proof? it's every article and as I recall the original social media "exposure". the girl didn't talk to police, hence no charges. I don't wanna make this about race, but Karl Malone gets a very different reception about the exact same sort of thing.

I'm not going to argue this, I just think these comments are a little sad. He's a ball player, why do you care about defending his character? why am I a "dolt", an "idiot", disgusting, etc because I find it interesting how everybody just sorta forgot about this? or doesn't care? don't care is fine, I guess, I'm not the morality police. I already said I'm excited to watch him play cuz I think he's good. My initial comment in this thread is that somehow Lavine is gonna rub off on Giddey the wrong way. I might hearken to race again, Zach is a terrible guy but the child molester isn't? what's the logic?

Guru wrote:I can't find anything that confirms she was 15. And they dated for 1 day.

I didn't realize you could have sex with a child once and it was ok. the second is when we start counting, right? it's wrong anyway, this dude made many posts about "his girlfriend" drawn out over a long period of time. I'm not relitigating this, you guys are just making up lies for some unknown reason. You know it's still possible to like the Chicago Bulls and question the moral scruples of a player who played for the team, right? You recall Derrick Rose's extracurricular activities, right? We men, you can assume and all.

burlydee wrote:If you actually cared about the issue you wouldn't refer to it so callously. If you think he's a predator you're more than welcome to not root for him or watch the team. But randomly bringing it up to WIN SOME stupid argument is classless.

I didn't make any argument about the situation or Giddy. Just the classless dolt bringing it up to shock people for attention.

you're being awful disrespectful toward me on behalf of Giddey. what are you so insecure about? you feel personally attacked or somethin? for your reference, I haven't been watching the Bulls because they're a garbage team. The new team looks pretty good this year, including Giddey, so I might watch. I would've wanted Kobe on this team despite his sex offenses. I think R Kelly made some pretty good songs. is there a contradiction there? maybe, but I don't think so. it's possible to separate sport or art from society, though I think the connection is important. people use this sort of logic to reject any creative or intellectual pre-modern idea because they were pre-modern people with pre-modern values. that doesn't mean they didn't make good art or pose some good philosophical ideas.
I'm not going to be cheering Kiddey on, I'll probably keep trolling him for the one year he's on this team, but I'll appreciate it if he's distributing the ball well and rebounding and running the break.

Also definitely didn't expect to write 10 posts about this, again I'm just responding to the guy that said Lavine is going to be a bad influence on Kiddey. What a **** absurd, and maybe racist, statement.
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Post#794 » by Risk Addict » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:36 am

Just a clip I find on topic and funny…

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Post#795 » by burlydee » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:40 am

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WindyCityBorn wrote:Post proof she was 15 or stop saying it. Not many high school juniors are 15 years old. I see more people saying 17 so prove it wrong.

post proof? it's every article and as I recall the original social media "exposure". the girl didn't talk to police, hence no charges. I don't wanna make this about race, but Karl Malone gets a very different reception about the exact same sort of thing.

I'm not going to argue this, I just think these comments are a little sad. He's a ball player, why do you care about defending his character? why am I a "dolt", an "idiot", disgusting, etc because I find it interesting how everybody just sorta forgot about this? or doesn't care? don't care is fine, I guess, I'm not the morality police. I already said I'm excited to watch him play cuz I think he's good. My initial comment in this thread is that somehow Lavine is gonna rub off on Giddey the wrong way. I might hearken to race again, Zach is a terrible guy but the child molester isn't? what's the logic?

Guru wrote:I can't find anything that confirms she was 15. And they dated for 1 day.

I didn't realize you could have sex with a child once and it was ok. the second is when we start counting, right? it's wrong anyway, this dude made many posts about "his girlfriend" drawn out over a long period of time. I'm not relitigating this, you guys are just making up lies for some unknown reason. You know it's still possible to like the Chicago Bulls and question the moral scruples of a player who played for the team, right? You recall Derrick Rose's extracurricular activities, right? We men, you can assume and all.

burlydee wrote:If you actually cared about the issue you wouldn't refer to it so callously. If you think he's a predator you're more than welcome to not root for him or watch the team. But randomly bringing it up to WIN SOME stupid argument is classless.

I didn't make any argument about the situation or Giddy. Just the classless dolt bringing it up to shock people for attention.

you're being awful disrespectful toward me on behalf of Giddey. what are you so insecure about? you feel personally attacked or somethin? for your reference, I haven't been watching the Bulls because they're a garbage team. The new team looks pretty good this year, including Giddey, so I might watch. I would've wanted Kobe on this team despite his sex offenses. I think R Kelly made some pretty good songs. is there a contradiction there? maybe, but I don't think so. it's possible to separate sport or art from society, though I think the connection is important. people use this sort of logic to reject any creative or intellectual pre-modern idea because they were pre-modern people with pre-modern values. that doesn't mean they didn't make good art or pose some good philosophical ideas.
I'm not going to be cheering Kiddey on, I'll probably keep trolling him for the one year he's on this team, but I'll appreciate it if he's distributing the ball well and rebounding and running the break.

Also definitely didn't expect to write 10 posts about this, again I'm just responding to the guy that said Lavine is going to be a bad influence on Kiddey. What a **** absurd, and maybe racist, statement.


Insecure? I just feel like you're an ahole trying to ruin ppls good time. If you had proof she was 15, you'd post it.

Giddey was cleared by police. He was cleared by the NBA. What do you want us to say or do about this? In most states a 19 year old having sex with a 17 year old isn't against the law. If that's what happened I don't think anything is wrong. Every single account has these 2 ppl meeting at an over 18 club when he was 19. Pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent girls. That wasn't this person.

If I was a mod I'd just ban you from the site. You brought this up in the Goddy thread. Someone invited you to post a separate thread. You chose not too.

You're not trolling Giddey. He's not reading these comments. You're making what you claim is sexual assault into a joke. Your invocation of RKelly and Kobe and how youd continue to watch them show clearly you don't give a ****. So why keep bringing it up? I'm sorry, I find that dumb and offensive. Again you clearly don't care about this person. You only care about stunting on the internet. You're boring. And then you have the nerve to imply that I'm defending him (which I wasn't) because of something in my past? You're trolling. Just shut up and talk basketball.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#796 » by Indomitable » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:54 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
SalmonsSuperfan wrote:
burlydee wrote:
Really disgusting ppl throw around this stuff to win arguments on a message board. One of the downsides of the internet.

clearly it wasn't to win an argument, it objectively makes my argument less effective. I did it to piss you guys off and amuse myself because cognitive dissonance is funny to me.

also, that poster just made up his own version of events. the girl was 15. so either he's a child molester or he's a sexual freak who is too stupid to make sure he's not **** a child. but yeah, I'm the disgusting one, not the millionaire celebrity molesting teens.

literally your only argument in favor of Giddey is "it's just basketball and he's a good basketball player, not a role model". I don't know why you don't just say that. Then it doesn't look like you're defending statutory rape. I wonder which one is more disgusting. I don't think you're disgusting, I just think you're stupid.


Post proof she was 15 or stop saying it. Not many high school juniors are 15 years old. I see more people saying 17 so prove it wrong.

She was most likely 16 but that is legal in OKC.
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Post#797 » by Muzbar » Mon Jul 1, 2024 4:03 am

So anyways...

I'm not sure there are many places that would take on Zach. Maybe Utah for John Collins? Outside of them I'm not sure where else could or can take him.
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Post#798 » by ChettheJet » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:48 pm

Hey if the mods can't deal with deleting the posts or poster cult of pinheads that want to talk about dismissed criminal cases then let's just ask those people to move off of the Potential Zach Trade Partners discussion over to oblivion where they belong.
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Post#799 » by sco » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:56 pm

So which, if any quasi contenders could have interest in a Zach trade post PG and CP3 movement? GS basically said no. PHI and NY are out. LAL is rumored to go for Klay. After KCP, is ORL out? So LAC (who I'm not sure could take him on a salary dump and has no interesting assets), SAC (iffy after they resigned Monk), is DET out?, NO for Ingram if they can't dump him, anyone else?
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Post#800 » by dougthonus » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:08 pm

ChettheJet wrote:Hey if the mods can't deal with deleting the posts or poster cult of pinheads that want to talk about dismissed criminal cases then let's just ask those people to move off of the Potential Zach Trade Partners discussion over to oblivion where they belong.


He's been suspended for his behavior.

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