Bears thread 13

[fleet]

That is a fantastic exorcism

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[panthermark]

Nice win! Washington tried their hardest to lose the game, and they succeeded....but I don't care because the good guys got the W.

[nomorezorro]

I don’t know what Dennis Allen is coaching in coverage. The blown coverage s in this game, and Dominique Robinson covering guys with 20 numbers off the line of scrimmage had me contemplating homicide

they're going to drop edges into coverage occasionally because he likes to scheme up 3rd down plays where 7-8 guys are all on the line and then vary up who drops out into coverage

a DE on a RB isn't ideal obviously, but you're banking on the look disorienting the offense enough and the RB being low enough in the progression that it's usually not going to hurt you. and third downs have been a strength of this defense so far this season, so there seems like there's some merit to the strategy

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

Gotta give the game ball to Swift this game. That hesi for the td catch was the answer we needed. And he got holes and hit them.

[nomorezorro]

the biggest problem with our coverage is that one of our starting cornerbacks is god-awful, but there's not a ton you can do about that when the guy was meant to be your 5th most important CB and is only playing so much due to injury

[Dresden]

the biggest problem with our coverage is that one of our starting cornerbacks is god-awful, but there's not a ton you can do about that when the guy was meant to be your 5th most important CB and is only playing so much due to injury

I think Gordon being back may have introduced some confusion too- guys not used to playing together, and Gordon missed a few plays on his own as well. He'll get better.

[Dresden]

Some bright spots, besides the win:

- pass rush showed up at least a little
- run game continues to get better
- starting to work in Loveland and Burden
- Theo Benedet didn't seem to hurt them much at all, aside from that bad penalty call
- Swift looked like the player we thought we were getting when we signed him
- Aikman was giving the O line props all night for giving Swift some nice holes to run through
- we continue to create turnovers, while giving up few ourselves

[Dresden]

BTW, Caleb said he saw Moody make a 65 yarder in practice.

[biggestbullsfan]

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Pray it’s nothing serious

[NZB2323]

I don’t think the Bears are that good, but our offense should get better as the year goes on with more time in Ben Johnson’s offense, and the defense should get better when Jaylon Johnson returns.

[Dresden]

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Pray it’s nothing serious

Looked like he was having back issues during the game.

Noah Sewell left with a concussion too. Hope he's alright.

[Dresden]

I don’t think the Bears are that good, but our offense should get better as the year goes on with more time in Ben Johnson’s offense, and the defense should get better when Jaylon Johnson returns.

But for a blocked fg and a catastrophic fumble they could be 1-5 instead of 3-2 and the narrative around the team would be totally different. The amount of turnovers they're getting is not sustainable either. OTH, they make so many mistakes that hold them back, if they could clean some of those up, they'd look a lot better, too.

[nomorezorro]

tbh, with the way the schedule is set up, they've got until late november/early december to gel into a legitimately "pretty good" team. stealing a game like this against a team that's better on paper is huge; now they just have to go 4-2 through the softest 6-game run on the schedule to head into the closing stretch with a 7-4 record

obviously it's far from guaranteed that we actually do win 4 games even against easier opponents, but we've given ourselves some wiggle room where we can theoretically spend another month figuring things out and still be competitive at the end of the season if the pieces do eventually click into place.

[MissileMike]

Is Aikman's hate for Caleb just a ucla/usc thing? Caleb had a bad game but Troy was over-the-top with his criticism, while at the same time praising Daniels every chance he got.

[nomorezorro]

aikman has always had a thing in his commentary where he will extend grace to established QBs, but be genuinely critical of "lesser" QBs in a way that most announcers usually aren't. (for example - stuff like aikman's criticism of caleb's ball placement not maximizing YAC on completed passes isn't inherently wrong, but it's just not a thing you expect to hear an analyst harp on during otherwise-successful plays)

i think a big part of explaining what happened last night is that he thinks daniels's rookie year was good enough to put him in the "proven it" camp and caleb's wasn't. it did get to be pretty ridiculous, though; i am truly never a The Announcers Hate My Team guy but stuff like criticizing him for bobbling a bad snap or for this objectively sick throw was genuinely crazy

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[Dresden]

I think Aikman probably sees how much potential Caleb has to be better, and from a technical standpoint Caleb does have a lot he can improve upon. He misses guys too often, or, as Aikman pointed out, doesn't put the ball in the place that would allow more YAC. And he was right about that deep throw to Odunze- there wasn't much chance that was going to be completed, although Caleb did put it right on the money. There was another pass to Zacheus that Caleb just rifled over his head, when hitting him right on the numbers would have made it an easy catch.

On the bright side, Caleb threw some really nice screens yesterday. Those take a lot of timing, and sometimes require a sidearm throw, and they executed a number of them very effectively, which is something they haven't been able to do for the past few seasons. that one to Monongai was a thing of beauty and went for about 25 yards, and there were a few to the WR's that resulted in 7-8 yard gains as well.

I hope the Bears learn to do more of that- the safe plays that usually will get you a good chunk of yards, and just make it a lot easier to convert first downs and hang onto the ball. that pass to Loveland for the first down on the final drive was another one. That's the kind of play you see Mahomes and Kelce make all the time. Just a simple route that's hard to stop, and will get you 6-7 yards. Just keep moving the chains.

[molepharmer]

I don’t know what Dennis Allen is coaching in coverage. The blown coverage s in this game, and Dominique Robinson covering guys with 20 numbers off the line of scrimmage had me contemplating homicide

they're going to drop edges into coverage occasionally because he likes to scheme up 3rd down plays where 7-8 guys are all on the line and then vary up who drops out into coverage

a DE on a RB isn't ideal obviously, but you're banking on the look disorienting the offense enough and the RB being low enough in the progression that it's usually not going to hurt you. and third downs have been a strength of this defense so far this season, so there seems like there's some merit to the strategy

I know I saw Shemar drop in coverage at least once. Turner played inside and outside on the D-line. Found himself around the ball a few times. Hopefully he'll be an impact player, or at least better then Chris Williams and J Ford.

[fleet]

aikman has always had a thing in his commentary where he will extend grace to established QBs, but be genuinely critical of "lesser" QBs in a way that most announcers usually aren't. (for example - stuff like aikman's criticism of caleb's ball placement not maximizing YAC on completed passes isn't inherently wrong, but it's just not a thing you expect to hear an analyst harp on during otherwise-successful plays)

i think a big part of explaining what happened last night is that he thinks daniels's rookie year was good enough to put him in the "proven it" camp and caleb's wasn't. it did get to be pretty ridiculous, though; i am truly never a The Announcers Hate My Team guy but stuff like criticizing him for bobbling a bad snap or for this objectively sick throw was genuinely crazy

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I heard Jayden Daniels leads the NFL in SPP. This is an advanced stat from Bleck. (Smiles per play)

[NZB2323]

I don’t think the Bears are that good, but our offense should get better as the year goes on with more time in Ben Johnson’s offense, and the defense should get better when Jaylon Johnson returns.

But for a blocked fg and a catastrophic fumble they could be 1-5 instead of 3-2 and the narrative around the team would be totally different. The amount of turnovers they're getting is not sustainable either. OTH, they make so many mistakes that hold them back, if they could clean some of those up, they'd look a lot better, too.

Yeah, that’s what I mean. We’re not very good, but I expect us to be a lot better the 2nd half of the season. Also Jaylon Johnson is our best player.

Also, if Eberlus is coaching the team we probably score at the end but give Washington enough time to score again and lose.

[fleet]

I don’t know what Dennis Allen is coaching in coverage. The blown coverage s in this game, and Dominique Robinson covering guys with 20 numbers off the line of scrimmage had me contemplating homicide

they're going to drop edges into coverage occasionally because he likes to scheme up 3rd down plays where 7-8 guys are all on the line and then vary up who drops out into coverage

a DE on a RB isn't ideal obviously, but you're banking on the look disorienting the offense enough and the RB being low enough in the progression that it's usually not going to hurt you. and third downs have been a strength of this defense so far this season, so there seems like there's some merit to the strategy

I know I saw Shemar drop in coverage at least once. Turner played inside and outside on the D-line. Found himself around the ball a few times. Hopefully he'll be an impact player, or at least better then Chris Williams and J Ford.

I get doing that in a zone concept, dropping back for linebackers that vacate space. Hell Booker did that regularly for Eberflus. What I had a slight issue with is when Dom Rob literally covered a receiver/runningback off the line of scrimmage as his responsibility.