Boozer does not compete

BullDawg · Post #81 » by **BullDawg** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:35 pm

costasge wrote:trade him for D12. convinince D12 to join us. we can make a dynaty with DROSE, D12 and KBogans

Orlando would let Dwight go for nothing before taking Boozer's contract.

Indomitable · Post #82 » by **Indomitable** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:35 pm

tcduke wrote:I wouldn't mind Boozer half as much if he actually tried on defense. It's not that he sucks, its that he just doesn't care. There have been so many times this season where he's a few feet away from his man taking a jumper, and he just looks at him. The lack of effort doesn't fit with this team at all.

1000+
Which is why lazy is a great word to describe.

ChiCitySPORTS#1 · Post #83 » by **ChiCitySPORTS#1** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:41 pm

Boozer does not fit in with the guys on this team. Hes such a dud. I wonder if he gets chewed up at all by Thibs. I hope Rose says something to him, the guy is pathetic.

Post #84 » by **pduh01** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:05 pm

It shouldn't be a surprise that Boozer give less effort playing defense he have his couple good moments once in a blue moon. We all should know what he brings to the table on defense which is well nothing however he should been a bit better on offense with scoring and at least do a good job rebounding the ball. But in today's game even though I thought he was some what solid from the beginning game then get into foul trouble but still play lot in the second half he was pathetic give nothing. He was useless today he needs to step up at least scoring and rebounding which is what he usually bring to the table.

Irregular · Post #85 » by **Irregular** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:21 pm

We won the game still.

He's still better then that dud named Bosh.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #86 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:33 pm

Irregular wrote:He's still better then that dud named Bosh.

As much as I dislike Bosh, it simply isn't true. Bosh put up 24/11 on 52% shooting as the #1 option last year. I shudder at what an offense would look like with Boozer as the #1 option.

People have a right to want more from our $76 million investment. You could live with the defense and the injury problems when he was bringing it offensively every night. This is no longer the case, unfortunately.

As far as trades, I'm not sure I would go that far yet. But if he doesn't improve as the playoffs go on, I might think about swinging him for Richard Hamilton. Would probably be the best we could do. I won't give up on him yet, but my patience is wearing thin.

m_willis01 · Post #87 » by **m_willis01** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:45 pm

Irregular wrote:He's still better then that dud named Bosh.

MAYBE Boozer might be a Better Rebounder & Passer, but THAT's IT. In all Other

Phases, BOSH is the Better Player & it's Not Even Close.

Post #88 » by **pduh01** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:57 pm

Boozer & Bosh have a different style of games from basing watching them play the past few years, as Willis say Boozer is a better rebounder & passer than Bosh.

Bosh from the post down low he likes to play a face up kinda like what LeMarcus Aldridge do, he doesn't post much even though he do have some solid post moves. Boozer while he likes to post up down the block but sometime he likes to do a face up or shoot a jumper.

Boozer give no effort on defense as for Bosh I do not think he is a good defender but I do not think he is the worse either put it that way. Bosh is younger than Boozer which we all know that and Boozer have history with injuries Bosh doesn't which is why part of the reason why some people want Bosh last summer. Even the majority part is the package to bring Lebron James but yeah.

As for who is better? Well I stated both of the players played difference on offense while Boozer is a better passer & rebounder than Bosh. I watch them both play the past few years and while they play the same position but they play difference who is better is actually a bit more debatable than people think. But it is also depend which way you want to go if you a choice to sign either Bosh or Boozer just between the two.

BullDawg · Post #89 » by **BullDawg** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:59 pm

Boozer was the #1 option in Utah last season...he did quite well. He and Rose simply don't mesh well right now.

League Circles · Post #90 » by **League Circles** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:40 am

I think a lot of people's problem is that they expect a player's performance to correspond to how they are paid. This simply isn't the case. You pay what you have to to get a player that you want. This was what we had to pay to get Boozer, who we wanted and for good reason. While he's not a classic low post interior scorer, he is a good post scorer (more high post) and good interior scorer, things we desperately needed.

Boozer is an elite passer for a big man IMO, really elite. He's also an elite shot faker and pivot guy. He can get his shot when he wants. While he might be our second best offensive player, I think it's as obvious as day that Luol Deng is our second best player all things considered, who by the way gets paid nearly as much while having signed an extension, not a UFA contract. You always overpay for a good big man in UFA, even if he has flaws like Boozer. The great thing is that we have multiple bigs that cover up his flaws. He actually did make a nice defensive play or two in the last few minutes for a touch of partial redemption. Bad game sure, but Indiana was hitting everything left and right, and a lot of it wan't against Boozer. It's be really nice if Boozer was a shot blocker, but because his lateral speed isn't great, he has to play defense in a low stance, which makes it impossible for him to challenge shots as effectively. Hell no he's not "worth" his contract, but that doesn't matter. You pay what you have to to get the players you want. We wanted him, for good reason, and we paid what we had to, and it worked out. Hell Booze took less money to play with us.

I could have went for a little more Omer tonight to be honest.

Linguistik · Post #91 » by **Linguistik** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:46 am

Remember the Boozer from December when he was putting up 25 and 10 automatically??

What happened to that guy??

What Boozer is doing right now is nearing Drew Gooden territory.

JordansBulls · Post #92 » by **JordansBulls** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:48 am

I know the guy makes some of the dumbest plays including (Please Use More Appropriate Word) fouls all the time.

Woody Allen · Post #93 » by **Woody Allen** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:05 am

chadrucf wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:
chadrucf wrote: He's played fantastic ball in the post season in every other year he's been in them.

No way.

His averages:
06/07
23.5/12.2/2.9
07/08
16.0/12.3/2.8
08/09
20.6/13.2/2.2
09/10
19.7/13.2/2.9

07/08 was not up to par. His shooting was poor. Other than that, he's been fantastic.

It's not about his averages. His effort has always been insufficient and inconsistent and he's always failed to deliver when most needed. That is the summary of his playoffs career with the Utah Jazz.

heir_jordan22 · Post #94 » by **heir_jordan22** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:14 am

He never plays hard and I don't expect him to. Before he signed with the Bulls he was on my Most Hated list and I tried to give him some leeway all year. He is just one of those lazy guys who always complains. He is talented, but when opponents compete he gets shut down because he doesn't compete back

Benedict Miller · Post #95 » by **Benedict Miller** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:24 am

I think Boozer tries on defense, it's just that his feet on defense is horrible and was concerned about Tyler taking him off the dribble, which resulted in jumpers in his face. Yeah his defense was terrible, but what the hell is he doing on offense?

m_willis01 · Post #96 » by **m_willis01** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:25 am

Boozer will Score his 14 PPG in the Playoffs, but this is NOT the Regular Season

Thibs Must Not Know, Teams will EXPLOIT Boozer's D unlike the Regular Season. Thibs SIMPLY GOT OUTCOACHED by Vogel in the 1st game.

costasge · Post #97 » by **costasge** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:31 am

BullDawg wrote:
costasge wrote:trade him for D12. convinince D12 to join us. we can make a dynaty with DROSE, D12 and KBogans

Orlando would let Dwight go for nothing before taking Boozer's contract.

they took over arenas, who is paid near 20 m to have him as 6th player, will they not consider Booz?

Indomitable · Post #98 » by **Indomitable** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:31 am

DaChozen1 wrote:I think Boozer tries on defense, it's just that his feet on defense is horrible and was concerned about Tyler taking him off the dribble, which resulted in jumpers in his face. Yeah his defense was terrible, but what the hell is he doing on offense?

Bull he just did not want to come out.

Benedict Miller · Post #99 » by **Benedict Miller** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:35 am

Nobull wrote:
DaChozen1 wrote:I think Boozer tries on defense, it's just that his feet on defense is horrible and was concerned about Tyler taking him off the dribble, which resulted in jumpers in his face. Yeah his defense was terrible, but what the hell is he doing on offense?

Bull he just did not want to come out.

Probably so, but with his slow feet laterally, he also was concerned about Tyler taking him off the dribble, scoring and possibly getting an and 1.

RZZZA · Post #100 » by **RZZZA** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:40 am

Boozer tried really, really hard today...

to single-handedly lose us the game. I wanted to slap him hard.

I hate his soft style of play, his gay-ass finger rolls, everything about him is just soft.

He yells really well though