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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#81 » by JordansBulls » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:16 pm

If we are willing to trade Deng, why not at least attempt to trade him for Melo or package Noah and Deng for Dwight?
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#82 » by Irregular » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:17 pm

JordansBulls wrote:If we are willing to trade Deng, why not at least attempt to trade him for Melo or package Noah and Deng for Dwight?


Dwight keeps rejecting the Bulls as a destination.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#83 » by coldfish » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:19 pm

JordansBulls wrote:If we are willing to trade Deng, why not at least attempt to trade him for Melo or package Noah and Deng for Dwight?


Because the Bulls are trying to shed salary here. . . if true. They are not trying to improve the team.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#84 » by davhern » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:20 pm

ChiTownsFynest3 wrote:yup true story... my boy texted him back and let deng have it... saying she wouldnt even look twice at you if you werent a basketball player.. crazy... also met joakim noah yesterday at myth... wearing joggers and everything..lol


he and you should be pissed at the girl, not deng.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#85 » by kristov » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:24 pm

davhern wrote:
ChiTownsFynest3 wrote:yup true story... my boy texted him back and let deng have it... saying she wouldnt even look twice at you if you werent a basketball player.. crazy... also met joakim noah yesterday at myth... wearing joggers and everything..lol


he and you should be pissed at the girl, not deng.


Really.If anything your friend should be thanking Deng for exposing his women as a gold-digging whore.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#86 » by PJ Brown » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:24 pm

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This arguement always tickled me a bit

NOBODY can guard LBJ....

Bulls posters talk about Deng like he's a SHUTDOWN defender when he is not. The top wings in the league light him up on a regular basis.

He's still dropping his averages on Luol even if he makes them a tiny bit tougher to attain

This is really a non-factor

Goodbye Deng


I never said Deng was a shutdown defender or that he could stop Lebron. He makes him work harder, on both ends, for 40 plus a night. Your plan to beat LeBron is to not worry about who defends him? To say it's a "non-factor" is to overlook an important part of the Bulls path to a championship, but I'm not even remotely suggesting it's the most important factor or a dealbreaker. I get tickled, though, when people are obsessed about the road to a title and specifically about how to beat the Heat but don't bother to worry about how to counteract the most important player in the way.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#87 » by kampz » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:28 pm

kristov wrote:
davhern wrote:
ChiTownsFynest3 wrote:yup true story... my boy texted him back and let deng have it... saying she wouldnt even look twice at you if you werent a basketball player.. crazy... also met joakim noah yesterday at myth... wearing joggers and everything..lol


he and you should be pissed at the girl, not deng.


Really.If anything your friend should be thanking Deng for exposing his women as a gold-digging whore.



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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#88 » by JordansBulls » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:30 pm

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JordansBulls wrote:If we are willing to trade Deng, why not at least attempt to trade him for Melo or package Noah and Deng for Dwight?


Because the Bulls are trying to shed salary here. . . if true. They are not trying to improve the team.

If we are trying to shed salary then wouldn't it make sense to trade Deng and Noah for Dwight? If Dwight stays great, if not then we got rid of 2 big contracts.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#89 » by Former Roy » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:33 pm

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PJ Brown wrote:As I've addressed in any threads, I'm feeling stingy with Deng. I would trade him, in general, if it made the team better, but have concerns about most of the rumors that have surfaced so far. One thing, that hasn't been discussed in the pros and cons is exactly who is supposed to guard LeBron if Deng is gone. There are few guys around the league who can got rode by LBJ for 40 minutes, hang on and still put up 15+ PPG, and none of them are easy to acquire.

This article confirms my already high opinion of Deng's character. What a thoughtful guy. I love that he is clear-minded and mature yet also not afraid to be honest about the situation. Selfishly, if he does get traded, I hope he's moved to the Warriors, as I'm a transplanted Chicagoan living in SF, and I've never had any reason to give a flip about the local team. Deng here would get the job done.


This arguement always tickled me a bit

NOBODY can guard LBJ....

Bulls posters talk about Deng like he's a SHUTDOWN defender when he is not. The top wings in the league light him up on a regular basis.

He's still dropping his averages on Luol even if he makes them a tiny bit tougher to attain

This is really a non-factor

Goodbye Deng

Forget Bulls' fans. Why did NBA coaches put Deng on the NBA All-Defensive 2nd Team?


Because he's a really damn good defender. shoulda been on the team last year also

that doesn't mean he has an friggin' effect on the best player in basketball
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#90 » by Red Larrivee » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:35 pm

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I never said Deng was a shutdown defender or that he could stop Lebron. He makes him work harder, on both ends, for 40 plus a night. Your plan to beat LeBron is to not worry about who defends him? To say it's a "non-factor" is to overlook an important part of the Bulls path to a championship, but I'm not even remotely suggesting it's the most important factor or a dealbreaker. I get tickled, though, when people are obsessed about the road to a title and specifically about how to beat the Heat but don't bother to worry about how to counteract the most important player in the way.


It's a factor, but Deng isn't slowing down LeBron to the point where his value is so inflated. At the end of the day a great team defense is what's going to stop LeBron, rather than a stud individual defender.

Paul Pierce, who is worse than Deng defensively, has faired better in matchups against LeBron than Deng has. Love Deng, but again I doubt the Bulls are going to re-sign him to big money when his contract ends, and when you consider that next season is a wash, and we aren't going to have money or flexibility to address offensive holes, then you have to deal an asset to lower payroll and gain upside.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#91 » by Irregular » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:38 pm

i don't think anyone can shut down Lebron. Not even the legendary Luol Deng.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#92 » by suckfish » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:39 pm

SpeedyWindRose wrote:I just can't imagine Rose and Deng smooth talking to any ladies :lol:


Deng is a 6ft9 member of the Sudanese Dinka Tribe. He's packing some serious length and chicks recognise that.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#93 » by transplant » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:41 pm

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Because he's a really damn good defender. shoulda been on the team last year also

that doesn't mean he has an friggin' effect on the best player in basketball

Sorry, I thought you said that, because Deng can't "shut down" Lebron, his defense is a non-factor.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#94 » by evilboy » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:45 pm

Looks like it's decision time for Deng. Great Britain and Golden State or the Bulls? A country that doesn't even acknowledge the existence of basketball and one of the worst teams in the NBA or the Bulls?

Easy choice for me... and it's looking like a pretty easy choice for Deng too.

Sayonara to an overpaid and overrated player.

Boozer, you're next.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#95 » by PJ Brown » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:45 pm

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It's a factor, but Deng isn't slowing down LeBron to the point where his value is so inflated. At the end of the day a great team defense is what's going to stop LeBron, rather than a stud individual defender.

Paul Pierce, who is worse than Deng defensively, has faired better in matchups against LeBron than Deng has. Love Deng, but again I doubt the Bulls are going to re-sign him to big money when his contract ends, and when you consider that next season is a wash, and we aren't going to have money or flexibility to address offensive holes, then you have to deal an asset to lower payroll and gain upside.


I'm comfortable with how you're putting things. By no means am I suggesting we can't possibly trade Deng because of LeBron. I might suggest that Deng is a rather important part of Thibs' "team defense" and that part of Pierce's value v. LeBron is his offensive skill (again, making James work for 40+ and making it harder for him to beast), but I can accept your bottom line in this case. If they aren't signing him, they probably should at least explore his trade value.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#96 » by make a move » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:47 pm

Too much smoke in the air for a trade not to go down, hell even Deng suspects the rumors of him being traded are true and I do too, now. I didn't think GarPax had the vision to trade Deng at his peak, maybe I was wrong.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#97 » by Benedict Miller » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:48 pm

Deng played excellent defense this year and last, he's a big reason why we won so many games even with all of the injuries... Easily our 2nd best player and would be a huge loss to Chicago's defense when he leaves we will miss him...With that being said, Its time to make a change now...If Jeremy Lamb is there at 7, we have to get him...Have to...
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#98 » by Irregular » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:51 pm

Where there's smoke there's FIRE!
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#99 » by mjaye » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:53 pm

coldfish wrote:
JordansBulls wrote:If we are willing to trade Deng, why not at least attempt to trade him for Melo or package Noah and Deng for Dwight?


Because the Bulls are trying to shed salary here. . . if true. They are not trying to improve the team.


I think shedding salary is only half of the equation. I think a more accurate statement might be "the Bulls are trying to re-tool the roster with better $-for-performance players."

I don't see the draft picks the Bulls would receive as replacements for Deng and Noah, rather they're replacements for our 4th-8th option-on-the-team players. It re-tools the Bulls depth at a potentially great $-for-performance basis while giving them the flexibility to look for new 2nd and 3rd options.
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Re: ESPN: Deng Believes Bulls May Trade Him 

Post#100 » by GloriaJames » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:55 pm

I find it funny that the response from some posters in this thread is to blame Boozer for being paid the amount of money that he was worth (maybe even less if the Nets had time to make a counter offer). He's played well as a Bull and if you think otherwise, you're simply wrong.

How about blaming our owner for not wanting to pay the luxury tax?

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