In Today's NBA, You Need to be able to Make Trades

[BrooklynBulls]

We are reactive and not proactive in regard to trading. We make trades when we have to get under the tax, dump a bad attitude, clear cap for free agency. These are all reactive trades and not trades based on seeing an undervalued veteran talent. The closest we've gotten to that is the Salmons and Miller trade in 09.

Was just about the mention the Salmons/Miller trade myself. We also got our starting, reigning DPOY Center in a trade but other than that I would have to agree with this post and really have nothing much else to add.

We traded for a draft pick and got lucky when joakim Noah a) didn't come out the year before, and b) fell to us in the draft. Had the kings taken him instead of Spencer hawes, the disingenuous point you tried to make just now would be moot. We did not trade for joakim Noah. We traded for a late lottery draft pick and got very VERY lucky that he was available when we picked.

We probably end up with Noah either way, since all reports were that we were in love with him in 2006 too. We just wouldn't have drafted/traded for Tyrus Thomas. You have to give credit to Pax for refusing to let those picks be protected, and to Isaiah Thomas for agreeing to it like the idiot he is.

[BullyBob]

Forget LBJ, MELO, LOVE, & all the rest of those high priced Diva players, by amnestying Boozer, re- signing, DJA, bringing NM on, & waive, Heinrich. The bulls can sign (2) Two, 1A FA, add them to what they already have, &, blow the NBA up. Get & rotate, Chandler Parsons with, / D Mcbucks / Brewer /@ SF; alongside Taj /NM /Randolph /Bairstow, Rotating @ PF; with a guard rotation of Rose / DJA / @ PG; Get Nick Young & rotate him with /Dunlevy / Butler/ Snell, @ SG; with Noah/ Randolph/Smith/Nazr/ & Taj anchoring the middle.

Makes them the deepest team in the league save the Spurs. Boozer, Heinrich,Fredette, & james, are gone which free's up $21.155M. Sign Nick & Chandler for $6M ea. Re-sign DJA @ $5M, NM @ $2M, DMc @ $2M rest of team @ minimums or less.If a S&T with Heinrich & Snell, Butler & Snell or Butler straight up, for Nick is possible do it. Use strength of team after assembled &, the high %'s of winning a title when negotiating. With Thibideau at the helm they're A Young, Running, Offensive &, Defensive Juggernaut.

[Wingy]

With that said, I agree with the undercurrent of Homo's thread. I have been salting it into threads but the Bulls have to give up on flexibility. Stop making trades to remove salary obligations. Start doing the hard work of identifying and acquiring talent. Find hidden gems and get them. Make trades that improve the team now, not that downgrade the team now with only a thin hope of upgrading it later.

This ties in closely to this thread where IMO, your points dominated the discussion.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1330667

Agree with Homo, we need to get way better at trading - not nec. for stars, but at least strong contributors. Problem is, we won't. I said it earlier in response to a Mech Eng post. GarPax's hands are tied.

Maybe it's choice of words. Maybe we need to stop saying 'cheap.' Perhaps instead it needs to be called out as it is. Winning championships might only be a nice byproduct of making money for this ownership group.

They could be way more committed to the goal w/o being a completely over the top NY team. There are folks who will seemingly fall on their swords for this ownership. Yet, can they honestly say we're doing everything we can within our reasonable means as a big market team to optimize our talent and title hopes?

[Michael Jackson]

With that said, I agree with the undercurrent of Homo's thread. I have been salting it into threads but the Bulls have to give up on flexibility. Stop making trades to remove salary obligations. Start doing the hard work of identifying and acquiring talent. Find hidden gems and get them. Make trades that improve the team now, not that downgrade the team now with only a thin hope of upgrading it later.

This ties in closely to this thread where IMO, your points dominated the discussion.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1330667

Agree with Homo, we need to get way better at trading - not nec. for stars, but at least strong contributors. Problem is, we won't. I said it earlier in response to a Mech Eng post. GarPax's hands are tied.

Maybe it's choice of words. Maybe we need to stop saying 'cheap.' Perhaps instead it needs to be called out as it is. Winning championships might only be a nice byproduct of making money for this ownership group.

They could be way more committed to the goal w/o being a completely over the top NY team. There are folks who will seemingly fall on their swords for this ownership. Yet, can they honestly say we're doing everything we can within our reasonable means as a big market team to optimize our talent and title hopes?

It is interesting. I hate the cheap tag because it doesn't apply but the way you state it is more accurate. The Korver move is the best example IMHO, that similar move by Miami with miller is biting them too. Is it cheap? No but the financial flexibility aspect of it proves fruitless so far, I guess wait until the offseason is done. I defend jr because he isn't cheap but his plan and gar Paxson might not be valid