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Re: This thread is a Safe space to hate the Warriors 

Post#81 » by OldSchoolNoBull » Sat May 14, 2016 9:09 pm

I can't hate on them. I'm disappointed that we didn't get to hold the record forever, but I don't hate them at all.

In Bill Simmons' Book Of Basketball, there's a passage where he's talking about the Bulls playing the Celtics in Boston in the 95-96 season. The Bulls were on their way to 72 and the Celtics were awful. Simmons said this:

This was like watching Andre the Giant in his prime, when he’d com out smiling for a battle royal as the crowd went bonkers, then disdainfully tossed jabronies out of the ring for the next twenty minutes. By the fourth quarter, two-thirds of the crowd was rooting for Chicago under the rarely seen and entirely defensible “not only is our team reprehensible, but we used to root for a great team, we know greatness, we understand greatness, and this is greatness” corollary.


That last part is kind of how I feel watching this Warriors team. Those Celtics fans had seen the Bird-McHale-Parish Celtics and, if they were old enough, the Russell Celtics too. They knew greatness when they saw it. As a fanbase, those of us who were around back in the day were fortunate enough to see greatness for the better part of a decade with the dynasty Bulls in the 90s.

And I'm not just talking about MJ/Steph. There are transcendent individuals who exhibit individual greatness, but their teams don't always exhibit greatness as a team.

For me, the pinnacle of team greatness is when it seems like every single decision being made on the court is the right one, and when the players don't seem to have to think about those decisions they're making. That's when a team is playing as one.

Last year and this year, I watched a couple Bulls/Warriors game and the difference was obvious, even in the close games. When the Warriors had the ball, it moved so fast. Every time a player got the ball, they immediately acted, whether that meant passing it, shooting it, driving, whatever. Off-ball, players were always moving to the right spot, setting the right screens, etc. And all of it happened so fast that it looked completely instinctual, natural, like they were at a level where they didn't have to think about any of this stuff, they just did it.

In contrast, when the Bulls got the ball, you could practically see the thought process going on in their heads. Derrick gets the ball. Do I drive, do I have enough space to take the three, should I give it to Jimmy and let him iso, should I throw into Pau and let him try to make something happen on the inside? Etc. You could see players considering the options and sometimes not being sure which way to go.

Many, many teams play the way the Bulls played. Very, very few teams play the way the Warriors played and are playing. There is no formula for putting a team together that plays like that. You can draft the right players, sign the right players, make the right trades, hire a good coach, and still not have everything click to this degree, still not have this kind of chemistry form, still not catch this kind of lightning in a bottle. I don't even think the Big 3 Heat played like that or that the current Cavs play like that. It just doesn't happen that often.

Which is why I can't hate them. And which is why I would tell Warriors fans, enjoy this, savor this while you can, because you never know when it will be over, and you never know how many years, how many decades, you'll be waiting, dreaming of being able to root for a team like this again.
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Re: This thread is a Safe space to hate the Warriors 

Post#82 » by Hangtime84 » Sat May 14, 2016 9:32 pm

OldSchoolNoBull wrote:I can't hate on them. I'm disappointed that we didn't get to hold the record forever, but I don't hate them at all.

In Bill Simmons' Book Of Basketball, there's a passage where he's talking about the Bulls playing the Celtics in Boston in the 95-96 season. The Bulls were on their way to 72 and the Celtics were awful. Simmons said this:

This was like watching Andre the Giant in his prime, when he’d com out smiling for a battle royal as the crowd went bonkers, then disdainfully tossed jabronies out of the ring for the next twenty minutes. By the fourth quarter, two-thirds of the crowd was rooting for Chicago under the rarely seen and entirely defensible “not only is our team reprehensible, but we used to root for a great team, we know greatness, we understand greatness, and this is greatness” corollary.


That last part is kind of how I feel watching this Warriors team. Those Celtics fans had seen the Bird-McHale-Parish Celtics and, if they were old enough, the Russell Celtics too. They knew greatness when they saw it. As a fanbase, those of us who were around back in the day were fortunate enough to see greatness for the better part of a decade with the dynasty Bulls in the 90s.

And I'm not just talking about MJ/Steph. There are transcendent individuals who exhibit individual greatness, but their teams don't always exhibit greatness as a team.

For me, the pinnacle of team greatness is when it seems like every single decision being made on the court is the right one, and when the players don't seem to have to think about those decisions they're making. That's when a team is playing as one.

Last year and this year, I watched a couple Bulls/Warriors game and the difference was obvious, even in the close games. When the Warriors had the ball, it moved so fast. Every time a player got the ball, they immediately acted, whether that meant passing it, shooting it, driving, whatever. Off-ball, players were always moving to the right spot, setting the right screens, etc. And all of it happened so fast that it looked completely instinctual, natural, like they were at a level where they didn't have to think about any of this stuff, they just did it.

In contrast, when the Bulls got the ball, you could practically see the thought process going on in their heads. Derrick gets the ball. Do I drive, do I have enough space to take the three, should I give it to Jimmy and let him iso, should I throw into Pau and let him try to make something happen on the inside? Etc. You could see players considering the options and sometimes not being sure which way to go.

Many, many teams play the way the Bulls played. Very, very few teams play the way the Warriors played and are playing. There is no formula for putting a team together that plays like that. You can draft the right players, sign the right players, make the right trades, hire a good coach, and still not have everything click to this degree, still not have this kind of chemistry form, still not catch this kind of lightning in a bottle. I don't even think the Big 3 Heat played like that or that the current Cavs play like that. It just doesn't happen that often.

Which is why I can't hate them. And which is why I would tell Warriors fans, enjoy this, savor this while you can, because you never know when it will be over, and you never know how many years, how many decades, you'll be waiting, dreaming of being able to root for a team like this again.


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Re: This thread is a Safe space to hate the Warriors 

Post#83 » by WesleyExChiFan » Sat May 14, 2016 11:07 pm

Mr Funk wrote:Like others have previously stated, I don't really hate on Golden State. It's much more preferable to have Curry winning the MVP and that stacked team dominating, as opposed to LeBron and his ego-induced clown show. Curry seems like a good dude and that FO has done a phenomenal job.

However, it's just the little things that tend to get on your nerves: Draymond Green's on court persona, Curry's mouthpiece, the overrating of Kerr and Walton (sorry, but the team is utterly stacked), the extreme luck and no adversity or grueling playoff series thus far. They're always having a good time, laughing, smiling etc.

But then there was this: one of the greatest moments in Bulls' history, something I'll never forget and confirmation that if we had a complete bench/roster, we could hang with them in a potential Finals match-up.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IpLKdTPXdE&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

I was at that game and it was such an awesome experience
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Post#84 » by r1terrell23 » Sat May 14, 2016 11:48 pm

I liked the Warriors last year but hate them now. My anger and hatred ascended to unknown heights when they broke our record. This playoffs has gone as horrible as the season.

I hate Toronto- fans and Drake
I hate Miami- Lebron
I hate Cleveland- Lebron
I hate Warriors- record broken and Curry nut licking and nut drinking

Go OKC.
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Post#85 » by Hokie » Sun May 15, 2016 5:23 am

I mean, if people want to hate on them for whatever irrational reason they so choose, that's their prerogative. It's beyond silly, considering most of the guys complaining about their "cockiness" and Curry's mouthpiece seem to have forgotten how cocky the 90s Bulls were and that MJ (as Duck already posted) constantly stuck his tongue out.

The hilarious thing is that if these guys all wore Bulls uniforms instead they would be absolutely adored.
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Post#86 » by Gandalf » Sun May 15, 2016 1:07 pm

Why are so many of you here trying to justify to the rest of us why we shouldn't hate on them, when the title cleary says this is a safe space to hate them. :) GO OKC :D
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Post#87 » by mademan » Sun May 15, 2016 1:23 pm

if you have hate in your heart, let it out
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Post#88 » by hellenicbull » Sun May 15, 2016 6:53 pm

Jordan's dad stuck his tongue out a lot when he used to work. That's where Michael got it from. He also never did any silly
dance when he got a basket. None of those Bulls did. They just took care of business. This thread clearly states it's a safe space
to hate GS. If people want to cheer them on, then go to another thread.
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Post#89 » by Mister247 » Sun May 15, 2016 8:02 pm

aguifs wrote:This 3 pt barrage is killing the game...This is, by far, the worst nba basketball we've been seeing...


WHAT???

NO IT ISN'T!

LACK OF POLISHING TALENT is "Hurting/killing the game".

THough It isn't killing the game, it's simply making the TRUTH more OBVIOUS...

These teams/players just aren't as good as the 90s era.
Teams like the Warriors are playing SMARTER, they are actually PRACTICING their game Outside of the mandatory practice.
They work on their 3s, they have a hive mind of how they want to play TOGETHER, they have a coach that has a system in place and isnt an uptight A$$hole.
Most of their primary players can actually HIT THEIR FREE THROWS!
The team plays SMART DEFENSE and their Bigs (as small as they are) know how to ROTATE on HELP DEFENSE (Unlike Gasol), They aren't Late on rotation and or lost a step (Unlike Noah), They play well consistently (Unlike GIbson).

ALL these teams just can't play solid like that for a long duration.

All the 90s era on back is seeing this and is like what is this Weak, Unintelligent, Toilet Paper Soft, Basketball that we are seeing. (It's just like the Music Industry, a a couple of good songs)

Everyone is so use to it that they get mad when an OG comes in and says hey, we know how to stop them. We never half-a$$ed it like you all are doing right now.... AND THEY'RE RIGHT!
Complaing about Hack-a-this player but its like hey...Practice your damn free throws.
Shaq was just BIG and BIG, so he got away with his free throws not being that good but even HE shot better free throws than these guys today. Rodman hit his when it really matter.

The BEST of this generation is like B Class level of the 90s.
I'm not a old guy, but I did see the transition and its like night and day.

Anyway...The Warriors are helping the game and forcing teams to improve theirs.


We can't even MAKE THE PLAYOFFS so what are we hating for. LOL!
We can't even beat the teams that the Warriors Beat to GET to the Playoffs.. so the ONLY ones we need to hate is our own Team/FO.
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Post#90 » by Coxy » Mon May 16, 2016 4:01 am

This thread is insane.
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Post#91 » by rtblues » Mon May 16, 2016 8:31 am

New Haters Only Thread needed! ;-)
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Post#92 » by bledredwine » Mon May 16, 2016 2:26 pm

Coxy wrote:This thread is insane.

It's actually not insane to hate a 3-jacking squad. Some of us actually enjoy a more versatile offensive game. Diversity = fun. Pass and shoot = boring to watch. Go OKC. Worth noting - I was a Steph curry college years homer and was convinced that he would be special. This stems from a love of the game, and I just don't like GS basketball.... at all.
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Post#93 » by ATRAIN53 » Mon May 16, 2016 2:42 pm

OK now we have a team that is easy to cheer for over GSW-
No that SAS wasn't either for me, but this will be more fun to watch I think. GSW had SAS number, they figured out how to beat them at the end of the year. Those OKC/GSW were close, esp that late OT game in April. That was one of the more fun NBA games of the last couple years. 7 games of that would be just fine with me!

Durant and Westbrook have been the face of OKC for close to decade. A lot of close misses, already lost the Finals to Lebron and stuck together a few years to get another crack at it.

Additionally it could be his swan song in OKC and Westbrook could be gone next year.

Could they win a title there and change their minds?

Can't wait to see Steven Adams and Draymond Green mix it up - one of those guys is gonna lose it on some rough foul.

Westbrook vs Curry head to head:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=curryst01&p2=westbru01

Go Thunder!!!!
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Post#94 » by Mech Engineer » Mon May 16, 2016 2:53 pm

ATRAIN53 wrote:OK now we have a team that is easy to cheer for over GSW-
No that SAS wasn't either for me, but this will be more fun to watch I think. GSW had SAS number, they figured out how to beat them at the end of the year. Those OKC/GSW were close, esp that late OT game in April. That was one of the more fun NBA games of the last couple years. 7 games of that would be just fine with me!

Durant and Westbrook have been the face of OKC for close to decade. A lot of close misses, already lost the Finals to Lebron and stuck together a few years to get another crack at it.

Additionally it could be his swan song in OKC and Westbrook could be gone next year.

Could they win a title there and change their minds?

Can't wait to see Steven Adams and Draymond Green mix it up - one of those guys is gonna lose it on some rough foul.

Westbrook vs Curry head to head:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=curryst01&p2=westbru01

Go Thunder!!!!


You can bet Adams will do something crazy to irritate Green. That is almost a guaranteed thing to happen. I have praised Curry in earlier posts. But, as a fan, it is kind of an odd feeling to see a less athletic guy dominate so much in a sport which had some of the best athletes.

That said, how much is Curry worth to the Warriors owner considering the amount of money in the Bay Area with all kinds of billionaires. I think Curry is worth more than even MJ was worth(even considering inflation) in the 90s to Reinsdorf.
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Post#95 » by jc23 » Tue May 17, 2016 4:01 am

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Post#96 » by JordansBulls » Tue May 17, 2016 4:06 am

I actually like the Warriors just don't want them to have a better overall record than the 1996 Bulls including playoffs.
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Post#97 » by Hangtime84 » Tue May 17, 2016 4:14 am

hellenicbull wrote:Jordan's dad stuck his tongue out a lot when he used to work. That's where Michael got it from. He also never did any silly
dance when he got a basket. None of those Bulls did. They just took care of business. This thread clearly states it's a safe space
to hate GS. If people want to cheer them on, then go to another thread.

Jordan is member of omega psi phi fraternity they do that A LOT
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Post#98 » by jc23 » Tue May 17, 2016 4:32 am

Coxy wrote:This thread is insane.


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Post#99 » by Dominator83 » Tue May 17, 2016 5:01 am

Coxy wrote:This thread is insane.

Just a fun discussion for our board considering we haven't had any Bulls games to talk about for a month now and the transactions part of our offseason is still far away

That being said, I don't hate the Warriors at all. Even about that record, I'm more mad at our current team than the Warriors. Our current team played them twice, and failed to help keep the franchise honor. If they would've just split going 1-1, Warriors only tie not break it. Way to honor our 50th season boys :banghead:
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Post#100 » by ThreeMileAllan » Tue May 17, 2016 7:07 am

We did it boys!!!!!

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