PG: Screwed the pooch

[BahamaBull]

i thought we had them...Thats why is so frustrating...

[Bulls03]

Yes, Lopez gets that rebound. But he also gives Speights a few more open looks because he can't move his feet in space. Perhaps Lopez could have been on Blake, but I think Fred wanted Taj on Blake. And putting Lopez on Speights at the 3 point line is just ridiculous. Taj, Niko and Bobby are your only options for Speights.

I'm not buying it. If anything Lopez would've stepped out and made Speights put it on the floor which would've led to good things for us.

Dude, they were running pick n rolls. You know how much running Robin would have to do showing on Paul and then racing back to Speights at the 3 point line? No chance.

But the main point in getting at is Bobby did absolutely nothing lol. Didn't defend rebound or score. Didn't set good screens. Let Speights get his 16, we win with Lopez scoring on him and setting good screens and not giving them rebounds.

[BahamaBull]

Fred probably would have went with the Taj and Niko combination more in the 4th, but Niko was bricking too many 3s earlier and not doing anything else on offense.

he is streaky...He would open the court to Jimmy and Wade much more than Bobby did. Players respect Nikos shot much more than Bobbys.

[Red Larrivee]

I don't blame Fred for playing Bobby. You can definitely argue against it, but Lopez guarding a stretch 5 would've been a problem.

Thank you. Were people not paying attention the amount of PNR's they were running at the top? There's no way you can put Lopez in that with a big looking to shoot or put the ball on the floor.

You still have to try something different. Don't let your guy keep getting cooked. Even if he played felicio it might've worked out differently. How many shots does a guy have to make before you decide to change how you defend him.

If there's a better alternative, then absolutely. But Lopez is the worst alternative. He is too slow to guard Blake or defend pick-and-pops that far away from the basket.

[Verfy]

That bull foul at the end was unnacceptable.

Butler NEEDS to play better. You have to get at least 30 if you want to beat LA in their home court.

NO more Bull then the Jimmy foul call on Speights

[Bulls03]

One issue we must address asap...How to defend stretch 4s...Lakers have none of that so we are good tomorrow...But I wonder what are we going to do when we play Houston with a guy like Ryan Anderson? Are we going to ride Bobby Portis the entire game?? If so, let me know so I can make other plans.

This team is probably shook after this loss. I'll be happy with a win tomorrow and we should beat them but, I don't see it.

Why would they be shook. It was a close game and it isn't our first loss. Just get up tomorrow and play again.

I hope you're right.

[kingkirk]

Here's why you can't play Lopez at center against a Griffin-Speights combo:

1. If he guards Speights, he needs to rotate and run out to the 3-point line. He can't do that.

2. If he guards Griffin, he is guarding every single PNR, something he can't do. He can't stop Griffin on the move, nor can he switch onto CP3, which the Bulls bigs were doing all game.

If you didn't think Portis should have played as much, that's fine. But if you think Lopez was the solution, your scouting report is way off imo.

[weneeda2guard]

This loss IS on hoiberg

1, wade and jimmy had difficulty scoring in the 2nd half because fred would not pull rondo. Rondo was literally getting left wide open so help could be sent to wade and jimmy. After the 1st couple of times seeing this, it's forgiven, after a couple dozen possessions of the clippers leaving rondo, you have to sit him, period!

Lopez was having a special game, you don't go away from him to panic and worry about speights, I'm sorry you trust that eventually he will cool off, but lopez was killing the clippers on offensive glass and what we would have missed in perimeter scoring we could have made up for on 2nd chance points. With lopez off the floor we became 1 and done, in the 1st half while we were building that huge lead we were getting 2nd and 3rd tries and for a team on a back to back with some tired legs that would have been huge for us.

Doc has DeAndre who is one of the best centers in the league and getting paid max, yet doc benched him for what was working for them. Hoiberg overreacted and didn't go back to what worked for us. Fred needed to grow a set and bench rondo.

We wouldn't have even gotten to the stuff at the end if fred coached better. This is a disappointment because this could have been a big win.nothing worst than losing when a couple of smart moves would have given you the win. Smh

[FecesOfDeath]

Offensive execution and shot selection could've been a little better in the fourth quarter. Jimmy could've gotten to the line at least 20 times if he didn't settle for 17-foot jumpers so much. Wade fell in love a little too much with the baseline fadeaway. Rondo was doing great basically playing SF on offense prior to the fourth quarter; why did they have him run point in the last quarter?

I hope Hoiberg was just saving Lopez' energy for the next game, because there were just too many little sophomore mistakes made by Bobby during key moments of the fourth that I feel that Robin would not have messed up in those moments.

[High level]

People need to chill on Fred it doesn't help when you have Jimmy and Niko throwing up bricks. Ya I understand people didn't like Portis out there for that long nor did I but people who are getting mad at Hoiberg for playing Portis could be the F/O wanting Hoiberg to put in Portis and not Hoiberg's decision. If Niko had a better game both ends there's a good chance he put's in Niko over Portis I could be wrong but ya Hoiberg deserves part of the blame but it doesn't help either also when you get so many BS calls on you.

Tonight is a prime example that Niko isn't ready for prime time and it definitely gets tougher than the clipperstandard. Tough road loss. Taj had a good first half then cooled off. Tonight showed that we still have big holes in our front line. If Lopez is gonna sit in big games we need someone that can at least hold down the fort. Niko Portis or Felicio can do that.

[mmmmmbeeer]

Explain and do not say it's because Lopez couldn't guard speights. That argument has no weight to it at all because speights scored 20 on the guys who were supposedly able to defend the 3.

If you watched that game and come away thinking, "man, if not for Bobby Portis we win this game.", you've never watched NBA basketball before tonight. Guys get hot and there's certainly no precedent of RoLo being good guarding a 5 out at the 3pt line.

Bulls went something like 3-17 down the stretch...that wasn't Bobby. Bulls got absolutely **** by an official...that wasn't Bobby.

Regardless of if Mo gets his 16 on Lopez (he probably doesn't) Lopez is a good scorer and great screen setter. Portis is nothing.

I agree and would've preferred to see RoLo on the floor if he's healthy...that said, I don't think that caused a, what, 26pt swing?

Shooting went cold...Jimmy played scared...careless turnovers....bad officiating....................................Bobby Portis.

[Proven_Winner]

People need to chill on Fred it doesn't help when you have Jimmy and Niko throwing up bricks. Ya I understand people didn't like Portis out there for that long nor did I but people who are getting mad at Hoiberg for playing Portis could be the F/O wanting Hoiberg to put in Portis and not Hoiberg's decision. If Niko had a better game both ends there's a good chance he put's in Niko over Portis I could be wrong but ya Hoiberg deserves part of the blame but it doesn't help either also when you get so many BS calls on you.

Hoiberg definitely deserves some blame but I agree it's not all his fault, not even close. Jimmy at times was being super passive and not even looking to drive and get fouled. Instead he ask for the ball only to waste the entire clock and make a horrible jump pass or pass it to rondo and force him to throw up something.

[High level]

People need to chill on Fred it doesn't help when you have Jimmy and Niko throwing up bricks. Ya I understand people didn't like Portis out there for that long nor did I but people who are getting mad at Hoiberg for playing Portis could be the F/O wanting Hoiberg to put in Portis and not Hoiberg's decision. If Niko had a better game both ends there's a good chance he put's in Niko over Portis I could be wrong but ya Hoiberg deserves part of the blame but it doesn't help either also when you get so many BS calls on you.

Tonight is a prime example that Niko isn't ready for prime time and it definitely gets tougher than the clipperstandard. Tough road loss. Taj had a good first half then cooled off. Tonight showed that we still have big holes in our front line. If Lopez is gonna sit in big games we need someone that can at least hold down the fort. Niko Portis or Felicio can do that.

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[BahamaBull]

Here's why you can't play Lopez at center against a Griffin-Speights combo:

1. If he guards Speights, he needs to rotate and run out to the 3-point line. He can't do that.

2. If he guards Griffin, he is guarding every single PNR, something he can't do. He can't stop Griffin on the move, nor can he switch onto CP3, which the Bulls bigs were doing all game.

If you didn't think Portis should have played as much, that's fine. But if you think Lopez was the solution, your scouting report is way off imo.

I have no problem sitting Lopez...My problem is WHY PLAY BOBBY PORTIS THE ENTIRE 4TH QUARTER????????????????

[Bulls03]

So most on here are fine with Doc deciding how Fred was going to coach?

[nomorezorro]

bobby portis played 13 minutes and 44 seconds of consecutive game time in the third and fourth quarter.

the bulls were -12 over that stretch
maurice speights put up 16 points and 3 rebounds
bobby portis put up 2 points and 2 rebounds, and fouled speights three times

[High level]

People need to chill on Fred it doesn't help when you have Jimmy and Niko throwing up bricks. Ya I understand people didn't like Portis out there for that long nor did I but people who are getting mad at Hoiberg for playing Portis could be the F/O wanting Hoiberg to put in Portis and not Hoiberg's decision. If Niko had a better game both ends there's a good chance he put's in Niko over Portis I could be wrong but ya Hoiberg deserves part of the blame but it doesn't help either also when you get so many BS calls on you.

Tonight is a prime example that Niko isn't ready for prime time and it definitely gets tougher than the clipperstandard. Tough road loss. Taj had a good first half then cooled off. Tonight showed that we still have big holes in our front line. If Lopez is gonna sit in big games we need someone that can at least hold down the fort. Niko Portis or Felicio can do that.

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Cant*

[Polynice4Pippen]

I'm not buying it. If anything Lopez would've stepped out and made Speights put it on the floor which would've led to good things for us.

Dude, they were running pick n rolls. You know how much running Robin would have to do showing on Paul and then racing back to Speights at the 3 point line? No chance.

But the main point in getting at is Bobby did absolutely nothing lol. Didn't defend rebound or score. Didn't set good screens. Let Speights get his 16, we win with Lopez scoring on him and setting good screens and not giving them rebounds.

This is ROBIN Lopez, not Brook, why are you acting like Lopez was gonna being scoring down the stretch or even get shots? Maybe offensive rebounds but that's it. If Robin played he'd have to guard Blake.

[R3AL1TY]

Fred probably would have went with the Taj and Niko combination more in the 4th, but Niko was bricking too many 3s earlier and not doing anything else on offense.

he is streaky...He would open the court to Jimmy and Wade much more than Bobby did. Players respect Nikos shot much more than Bobbys.

I agree...hopefully, when they match up against a stretch 4 again, Fred will roll with Niko more than Bobby.

[RedBulls23]

Here's why you can't play Lopez at center against a Griffin-Speights combo:

1. If he guards Speights, he needs to rotate and run out to the 3-point line. He can't do that.

2. If he guards Griffin, he is guarding every single PNR, something he can't do. He can't stop Griffin on the move, nor can he switch onto CP3, which the Bulls bigs were doing all game.

If you didn't think Portis should have played as much, that's fine. But if you think Lopez was the solution, your scouting report is way off imo.

Missed the first 3 qtrs...was Felicio bad that he didn't deserve minutes over Bobby?