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Post#81 » by kodo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:03 pm

jkudia wrote:http://sportsmockery.com/2020/08/top-insider-says-nba-coaches-see-chicago-bulls-job-as-highly-attractive/

This article says Calipari and Chris beard are candidates. Did I miss that?


I don't believe the Calipari thing. It's a downgrade for a top tier NCAA coach like Calipari to coach in the NBA. He's been rumored to be interested in the NBA but only as a GM or President role.

Calipari's contract is $86M over 10 years. A first time NBA coach makes ~$3M to $4M. We gave Boylen $1.6M and axed him after 1 season.

Guys like Calipari and Coach K are really heads of their programs. He's close friends with Rose and people thought he would coach the Knicks, and he shot that down hard.
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Post#82 » by Andi Obst » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:05 pm

I just don't understand why so many people insist on a coach with a proven track record. The Warriors hired Kerr for his first head coaching job, the Raptors did the same with Nurse, Celtics did it with Stevens...just to name a few. Yes, it can go wrong and we as Bulls fans went through that twice in a row now, but at the end of the day, you have to trust a good FO to find the right guy for the job. Wherever or whoever that is.

If you don't trust AK with this and would rather go with a "safe" candidate (that doesn't exist, obviously) instead, then what was the management change good for really?
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Post#83 » by Jvaughn » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:05 pm

Alvin Gentry just fired (weird), so he's now my #1 candidate.
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Post#84 » by Andi Obst » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:13 pm

Jvaughn wrote:Alvin Gentry just fired (weird), so he's now my #1 candidate.


How is it weird? The Pelicans' bubble performances were absolutely pathetic and he just can't build a defense that stops anyone. Jim Boylen made the Bulls a better defensive team than Gentry did with the Pelicans. Looking at the players, that is actually hard to do.

Gentry was a bottom 10 coach in the league IMO.
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Post#85 » by League Circles » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:48 pm

Mike Brown. Mike Brown. Mike Brown.

He probably has the highest floor. I'm sick of sucking.
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Post#86 » by Clint Eastwood » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:10 pm

League Circles wrote:Mike Brown. Mike Brown. Mike Brown.

He probably has the highest floor. I'm sick of sucking.

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Post#87 » by Hold That » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:41 pm

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Jvaughn wrote:Alvin Gentry just fired (weird), so he's now my #1 candidate.


How is it weird? The Pelicans' bubble performances were absolutely pathetic and he just can't build a defense that stops anyone. Jim Boylen made the Bulls a better defensive team than Gentry did with the Pelicans. Looking at the players, that is actually hard to do.

Gentry was a bottom 10 coach in the league IMO.

Boylan was known as a defensive coach so he better had made us better if that is his strength..

It’s pretty well known that Gentry is an offensive minded coach. I wouldn’t mind having him on board he develops players very well offensively. And I feel he’s a nice bridge coach. I highly doubt our next coach is the coach that will deliver us a championship, even if we drafted a superstar. I want a coach that has a resume of developing players.
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Post#88 » by Andi Obst » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:55 pm

Hold That wrote:It’s pretty well known that Gentry is an offensive minded coach. I wouldn’t mind having him on board he develops players very well offensively. And I feel he’s a nice bridge coach. I highly doubt our next coach is the coach that will deliver us a championship, even if we drafted a superstar. I want a coach that has a resume of developing players.


I feel like "yeah, he sucks real bad on defense but I don't think he'll be here long anyway" is the wrong approach to a coaching search, but that's just me. Watched a lot of Pelicans games this season and they were just super frustrating to watch overall. No defensive plan at all, no offensive gameplay aside from shooting as soon as possible, weird rotations and I could go on. And then the team just gives up in the bubble. Like, completely gives up. That game against the Kings last week, probably their low-point, was just brutal to watch.

Can't say that I enjoyed the Alvin Gentry experience much more than the Jim Boylen experience as far as the on-court product goes.
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Post#89 » by johnnyvann840 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:56 pm

Jvaughn wrote:Alvin Gentry just fired (weird), so he's now my #1 candidate.


Gentry sucks. The best thing the Suns ever did was get rid of him.
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Post#90 » by NecessaryEvil » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:02 pm

I believe if Udoka doesn’t go BKN, he comes here.
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Post#91 » by Jvaughn » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:07 pm

Little Nathan wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:Alvin Gentry just fired (weird), so he's now my #1 candidate.


How is it weird? The Pelicans' bubble performances were absolutely pathetic and he just can't build a defense that stops anyone. Jim Boylen made the Bulls a better defensive team than Gentry did with the Pelicans. Looking at the players, that is actually hard to do.

Gentry was a bottom 10 coach in the league IMO.


I feel like he did a pretty good job with the young core he had during the regular season. They were terrible in the bubble. I'm not discounting that, but these were very weird circumstances. As was stated he is a very good offensive minded coach, and we're in desperate need of that.
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Post#92 » by sonny » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:17 pm

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Michael Jackson wrote:AK has such strong European ties, I wonder if he would be ballsy enough to try some unknown Euro coach? It’s a talent pool that isn’t dipped into and honestly the Euro game fits today’s NBA rather well.


The relationship between head coach and players is pretty critical. I think the cultural differences here would make this something I'd not want to be on the early adopter train. Blatt was a complete failure in Cleveland. Not sure if anyone else has tried it.

It's tough to judge Blatt. He was hired to coach a young team, a month later Bron comes back without even talking to him and disregards his offense a month into the season.

Jvaughn wrote:Alvin Gentry just fired (weird), so he's now my #1 candidate.


He's had like 3 winning seasons in 16 years
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Post#93 » by johnnyvann840 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:19 pm

Bulls had the chance to hire Monty Williams who was looking for a job when the Bulls were hiring. Now, he's one of the top coaches in the league and has completely turned the Suns around. They better not even look at Alvin Gentry who has been a horrible coach everywhere he's been. Two best things the Suns have done in the last decade is fire Gentry and hire Williams.
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Post#94 » by Jcool0 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:21 pm

Jvaughn wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:Alvin Gentry just fired (weird), so he's now my #1 candidate.


How is it weird? The Pelicans' bubble performances were absolutely pathetic and he just can't build a defense that stops anyone. Jim Boylen made the Bulls a better defensive team than Gentry did with the Pelicans. Looking at the players, that is actually hard to do.

Gentry was a bottom 10 coach in the league IMO.


I feel like he did a pretty good job with the young core he had during the regular season. They were terrible in the bubble. I'm not discounting that, but these were very weird circumstances. As was stated he is a very good offensive minded coach, and we're in desperate need of that.


He has coached over 1000 games & has now been fired by 4 different teams. I think we know who he is by now and its not a winning coach.
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Post#95 » by Andi Obst » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:21 pm

Jvaughn wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:Alvin Gentry just fired (weird), so he's now my #1 candidate.


How is it weird? The Pelicans' bubble performances were absolutely pathetic and he just can't build a defense that stops anyone. Jim Boylen made the Bulls a better defensive team than Gentry did with the Pelicans. Looking at the players, that is actually hard to do.

Gentry was a bottom 10 coach in the league IMO.


I feel like he did a pretty good job with the young core he had during the regular season. They were terrible in the bubble. I'm not discounting that, but these were very weird circumstances. As was stated he is a very good offensive minded coach, and we're in desperate need of that.

Like I said in my previous post: I'm not willing to just give up on defense and I think he's overrated on offense. His teams just run and shoot a lot, there's nothing interesting about that.
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Post#96 » by Chi town » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:25 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:Bulls had the chance to hire Monty Williams who was looking for a job when the Bulls were hiring. Now, he's one of the top coaches in the league and has completely turned the Suns around. They better not even look at Alvin Gentry who has been a horrible coach everywhere he's been. Two best things the Suns have done in the last decade is fire Gentry and hire Williams.


He would have been a great hire.

Now we have two better destinations than us hiring a coach too.

Will be interesting to see what AK does. Think we will have our coach in next 10-14 days.
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Post#97 » by Jcool0 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:32 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:Bulls had the chance to hire Monty Williams who was looking for a job when the Bulls were hiring. Now, he's one of the top coaches in the league and has completely turned the Suns around. They better not even look at Alvin Gentry who has been a horrible coach everywhere he's been. Two best things the Suns have done in the last decade is fire Gentry and hire Williams.


Lets no go crazy. He has a career .443 win percentage. Its a nice story the Suns went 8-0 in the bubble but they weren't a playoff team before. So this all could just be a fluke of the bubble.
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Post#98 » by HomoSapien » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:37 pm

kodo wrote:
jkudia wrote:http://sportsmockery.com/2020/08/top-insider-says-nba-coaches-see-chicago-bulls-job-as-highly-attractive/

This article says Calipari and Chris beard are candidates. Did I miss that?


I don't believe the Calipari thing. It's a downgrade for a top tier NCAA coach like Calipari to coach in the NBA. He's been rumored to be interested in the NBA but only as a GM or President role.

Calipari's contract is $86M over 10 years. A first time NBA coach makes ~$3M to $4M. We gave Boylen $1.6M and axed him after 1 season.

Guys like Calipari and Coach K are really heads of their programs. He's close friends with Rose and people thought he would coach the Knicks, and he shot that down hard.


Calipari used to be the head coach of the Nets, so he's not a first-time coach though he's been forever since he last coached in the NBA. I thought he did a solid job with that Nets team, but I wouldn't want him coaching us.
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Post#99 » by Ralphb07 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:00 pm

One common thing in regards to all the candidates listed is all have great reputations for player development and connecting with their players. Wes, Ime and Ham are more known so those are the guys I like. But I won’t be upset if they hired a more unknown assistant like Vanterpool or Silas.
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Post#100 » by League Circles » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:03 pm

Does anyone know if there are any good current head coaches whose contract expires at the end of the season?
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