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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#81 » by OldSchoolNoBull » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:25 am

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HomoSapien wrote:I still can't believe how much we booted our PF issues for later. I think we'll look to solve it at the deadline via trade or the buyout market, but wish we had just kept Nance.


I'm afraid that, when we see the penalty for the tampering investigation, it will become clear why AKME pulled Lauri from the SAS trade in favor of Thad and then traded Lauri for DJJ and two draft picks rather than Nance. Either Thad or Nance would be very helpful to our team right now. But there apparently were other priorities.


I thought it was established that the reason Lauri didn't go to the Spurs is because the Spurs didn't want him for the money he was looking for?

Also, I think people are way overrating Nance. Production-wise, he's really not doing anything more than DJJ is doing, and DJJ's advanced metrics are better across the board(though yes, some of that is due to being on a better team).

DJJ:
5.9ppg/3.2rpg/0.4apg in 16.9mpg on 25/0% 3P, 58.6% FG, 100% FT
73.5% TS
4.0 BPM
.238 WS/48

Nance:
5.6ppg/4.7rpg/1.4apg in 18.3mpg on 30.0% 3P, 51.6% FG, 56.3% FT
57.2% TS
-0.5 BPM
.103 WS/48

I don't think this team is different at all with Nance instead of DJJ. Nance is two inches taller, yes, but his 6'7' is still undersized for the PF position.
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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#82 » by #1TKfan » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:25 am

Embiid gave us fits. If AD goes off don't like our chances. Contain him then we got this. Tough task but Bulls are sizzling right now.
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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#83 » by HomoSapien » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 am

OldSchoolNoBull wrote:
bad knees wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:I still can't believe how much we booted our PF issues for later. I think we'll look to solve it at the deadline via trade or the buyout market, but wish we had just kept Nance.


I'm afraid that, when we see the penalty for the tampering investigation, it will become clear why AKME pulled Lauri from the SAS trade in favor of Thad and then traded Lauri for DJJ and two draft picks rather than Nance. Either Thad or Nance would be very helpful to our team right now. But there apparently were other priorities.


I thought it was established that the reason Lauri didn't go to the Spurs is because the Spurs didn't want him for the money he was looking for?

Also, I think people are way overrating Nance. Production-wise, he's really not doing anything more than DJJ is doing, and DJJ's advanced metrics are better across the board(though yes, some of that is due to being on a better team).

DJJ:
5.9ppg/3.2rpg/0.4apg in 16.9mpg on 25/0% 3P, 58.6% FG, 100% FT
73.5% TS
4.0 BPM
.238 WS/48

Nance:
5.6ppg/4.7rpg/1.4apg in 18.3mpg on 30.0% 3P, 51.6% FG, 56.3% FT
57.2% TS
-0.5 BPM
.103 WS/48

I don't think this team is different at all with Nance instead of DJJ. Nance is two inches taller, yes, but his 6'7' is still undersized for the PF position.


Nance has historically been a much better player. This is too small of a sample size to declare them equals, IMO. Also, Nance is a significantly better rebounder and passer (career per 36 he averages nearly 10 rebounds and 3 assists). Because of that, we'd be able to run similar sets for him that we do for Vuc which would be helpful.

DJJ has done a really solid job and I like what he brings, but he's not as good as Nance.
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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#84 » by Clocian » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:35 am

Ok nbatv, we got a game coming on, turn off this wolves/sun's game
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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#85 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:37 am

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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#86 » by OldSchoolNoBull » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:41 am

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OldSchoolNoBull wrote:
bad knees wrote:
I'm afraid that, when we see the penalty for the tampering investigation, it will become clear why AKME pulled Lauri from the SAS trade in favor of Thad and then traded Lauri for DJJ and two draft picks rather than Nance. Either Thad or Nance would be very helpful to our team right now. But there apparently were other priorities.


I thought it was established that the reason Lauri didn't go to the Spurs is because the Spurs didn't want him for the money he was looking for?

Also, I think people are way overrating Nance. Production-wise, he's really not doing anything more than DJJ is doing, and DJJ's advanced metrics are better across the board(though yes, some of that is due to being on a better team).

DJJ:
5.9ppg/3.2rpg/0.4apg in 16.9mpg on 25/0% 3P, 58.6% FG, 100% FT
73.5% TS
4.0 BPM
.238 WS/48

Nance:
5.6ppg/4.7rpg/1.4apg in 18.3mpg on 30.0% 3P, 51.6% FG, 56.3% FT
57.2% TS
-0.5 BPM
.103 WS/48

I don't think this team is different at all with Nance instead of DJJ. Nance is two inches taller, yes, but his 6'7' is still undersized for the PF position.


Nance has historically been a much better player. This is too small of a sample size to declare them equals, IMO. Also, Nance is a significantly better rebounder and passer (career per 36 he averages nearly 10 rebounds and 3 assists). Because of that, we'd be able to run similar sets for him that we do for Vuc which would be helpful.

DJJ has done a really solid job and I like what he brings, but he's not as good as Nance.


I just don't agree. I mean, per your arguments, Nance might be marginally better than DJJ, but I don't think having Nance instead of DJJ would make any difference whatsoever to the ultimate outcome of our season. I obviously acknowledge the hole in our roster - we need a starting PF, but Nance has never been a full-time starter in his career. He doesn't fill our hole imo. Besides, DJJ is a better potential trade asset with his expiring deal.
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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#87 » by HomoSapien » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:42 am

Why are we shooting over AD? We know he's an incredible defender, right?
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Post#88 » by Polynice4Pippen » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:43 am

I need a Zach 40 piece tonight.
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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#89 » by Jvaughn » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:43 am

Tony Bradley not ready to play again
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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#90 » by TheGOATRises007 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:44 am

Get Bradley out.

WTF IS HE DOING?!
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Post#91 » by Polynice4Pippen » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:44 am

Marko can't be THAT much worse than Bradley can he?
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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#92 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:44 am

Stacey already annoying me lol
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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#93 » by lostonbase » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:44 am

I will never talk bad a bout Vuc again!
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Post#94 » by 2weekswithpay » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:44 am

Bradley can't do anything in the short roll and the Lakers know it
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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#95 » by TheGOATRises007 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:44 am

Bradley is awful.

Get him out.
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Post#96 » by nomorezorro » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:44 am

stacey is so heartbroken by how bad bradley is lol
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Post#97 » by cowraiser » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:45 am

Bum ass bradley watch for the steal protect the damn ball
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Post#98 » by Red8911 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:45 am

Toney !!! Fk u doin ?
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Post#99 » by logical_art » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:45 am

JFC Bradley.
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Re: GT - Bulls @ LAL 

Post#100 » by chicago paxsons » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:45 am

Polynice4Pippen wrote:Marko can't be THAT much worse than Bradley can he?


If he is that would be sort of funny to see, in a torturous sort of way.
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