How much time does AK have?

[kodo]

The only way we move on is if Michael Reinsdorf has had enough and fires AK, and that's Billy's only anchor here.

It's insane that Donovan is one of the longest tenured coaches in the league along with coaches who have accomplished great success like Spoelstra, Kerr, Mike Malone, and Thibs.

[Bulldog23]

AK needs to go, prioritizing cap space and getting assets was the goal.

[Onibuh]

AK needs to go, prioritizing cap space and getting assets was the goal.

do we even know this?

They got flexibility back with the LaVine trade. They have control over their 1st, they get Cap Space for 2026 and I'm not sure if tanking was on mind with this move.

I can see them not making more moves unless somebody wants any of the new guys basically for free. They just keep Giddy and go with the young guys already on the roster hoping for somebody to make a step forward. Internal growth.

I can see it already for next season... Giddy, Ayo, Coby, Matas, Williams, Smith, Phillips, Terry and that #9 overall pick with Lonzo and Vuc or Collins as Veterans.

This will be enough to fire AK and you get a new GM with Cap Space to work with.

[ChiTownHero1992]

Seems like AKME wasn't rebuilding in my mind but rather playing "Moneyball" in the basketball world. Trade big contract Zach for three "possible-contributors" that could do his production at different places. I don't know if he embraced the rebuild but unless I see another trade I highly assume this was another "retooling" move to address shotting (Huerter - even though he hasn't shot well) and adding big-depth (Collins).

This guy should be fired ASAP, but unfortunately I think they'll stick with him minimum 3 more years

[Jcool0]

Seems like AKME wasn't rebuilding in my mind but rather playing "Moneyball" in the basketball world. Trade big contract Zach for three "possible-contributors" that could do his production at different places. I don't know if he embraced the rebuild but unless I see another trade I highly assume this was another "retooling" move to address shotting (Huerter - even though he hasn't shot well) and adding big-depth (Collins).

This guy should be fired ASAP, but unfortunately I think they'll stick with him minimum 3 more years

Reports are saying they are trying to move 2 of the 3 guys traded for which is why they didn't play last night so not sure this is the case.

[ChiTownHero1992]

Seems like AKME wasn't rebuilding in my mind but rather playing "Moneyball" in the basketball world. Trade big contract Zach for three "possible-contributors" that could do his production at different places. I don't know if he embraced the rebuild but unless I see another trade I highly assume this was another "retooling" move to address shotting (Huerter - even though he hasn't shot well) and adding big-depth (Collins).

This guy should be fired ASAP, but unfortunately I think they'll stick with him minimum 3 more years

Reports are saying they are trying to move 2 of the 3 guys traded for which is why they didn't play last night so not sure this is the case.

Reports (from inside the bulls organization I might add) also stated that Lonzo Ball was a "highly likely" candidate for the buyout market...so who are we supposed to believe?

[Jcool0]

Seems like AKME wasn't rebuilding in my mind but rather playing "Moneyball" in the basketball world. Trade big contract Zach for three "possible-contributors" that could do his production at different places. I don't know if he embraced the rebuild but unless I see another trade I highly assume this was another "retooling" move to address shotting (Huerter - even though he hasn't shot well) and adding big-depth (Collins).

This guy should be fired ASAP, but unfortunately I think they'll stick with him minimum 3 more years

Reports are saying they are trying to move 2 of the 3 guys traded for which is why they didn't play last night so not sure this is the case.

Reports (from inside the bulls organization I might add) also stated that Lonzo Ball was a "highly likely" candidate for the buyout market...so who are we supposed to believe?

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[ChettheJet]

Of course I could be wrong but I think he gets axed the day after the season ends. He finally made one big trade that had to be made at a deadline, announced resigning Lonzo and nothing else. Getting the pick back from SAS was important because the next guy needs it to get off to good start. I think that he was on a short leash, could have made a couple of tanking trades, gotten nothing much back for Vuc, or Coby, Carter etc but was under orders to just don't make it worse for the summer.

[Indomitable]

Married to the play in push.

[DuckIII]

Frankly since last summer AK has been doing a decent job. Obviously he created the situation he was in due to his own incompetence, but regardless he has responded pretty well in taking these belated steps to climb out of it.

Great Ayo extension. Caruso trade (whether you agreed with it or not it is highly defensible and objectively reasonable at worst). Buzelis draft. Moving on from DDR and Zach without hampering future flexibility. Getting the Spurs pick back. Committing to a real rebuild. Lonzo’s incredible deal.

I hate AK and don’t trust him. But if you don’t keep an open mind to changing evidence you are doing life wrong.

[KissedByaRose1]

Frankly since last summer AK has been doing a decent job. Obviously he created the situation he was in due to his own incompetence, but regardless he has responded pretty well in taking these belated steps to climb out of it.

Great Ayo extension. Caruso trade (whether you agreed with it or not it is highly defensible and objectively reasonable at worst). Buzelis draft. Moving on from DDR and Zach without hampering future flexibility. Getting the Spurs pick back. Committing to a real rebuild. Lonzo’s incredible deal.

I hate AK and don’t trust him. But if you don’t keep an open mind to changing evidence you are doing life wrong.

He hasn't been doing a great job, it's been better but still at least below average and the Williams extension alone shows he still hasn't learned anything/can't be trusted with the future of the team. And if Vooch/Heurter/Jones/White are all still on our roster after today we will have significatly damaged the greatest asset on the team which is our 2025 pick.

[jnrjr79]

Seems like AKME wasn't rebuilding in my mind but rather playing "Moneyball" in the basketball world. Trade big contract Zach for three "possible-contributors" that could do his production at different places. I don't know if he embraced the rebuild but unless I see another trade I highly assume this was another "retooling" move to address shotting (Huerter - even though he hasn't shot well) and adding big-depth (Collins).

This guy should be fired ASAP, but unfortunately I think they'll stick with him minimum 3 more years

Reports are saying they are trying to move 2 of the 3 guys traded for which is why they didn't play last night so not sure this is the case.

Reports (from inside the bulls organization I might add) also stated that Lonzo Ball was a "highly likely" candidate for the buyout market...so who are we supposed to believe?

Were those reports actually purporting to be sourced from inside the Bulls? I don't recall that. For instance, Sports Illustrated framed it as "some teams are also monitoring whether Ball could hit the buyout market."

https://www.si.com/nba/grizzlies/news/new-team-reportedly-showing-interest-in-lonzo-ball-trade-01jk9ge0yc3k

And yesterday before the extension, there were reports that the Bulls were interested in extending him.

[Indomitable]

Frankly since last summer AK has been doing a decent job. Obviously he created the situation he was in due to his own incompetence, but regardless he has responded pretty well in taking these belated steps to climb out of it.

Great Ayo extension. Caruso trade (whether you agreed with it or not it is highly defensible and objectively reasonable at worst). Buzelis draft. Moving on from DDR and Zach without hampering future flexibility. Getting the Spurs pick back. Committing to a real rebuild. Lonzo’s incredible deal.

I hate AK and don’t trust him. But if you don’t keep an open mind to changing evidence you are doing life wrong.

He hasn't been doing a great job, it's been better but still at least below average and the Williams extension alone shows he still hasn't learned anything/can't be trusted with the future of the team. And if Vooch/Heurter/Jones/White are all still on our roster after today we will have significatly damaged the greatest asset on the team which is our 2025 pick.

They are going for the play in.

Getting their pick back allows them to not make tough decisions.

This team just wants make money and convince you they are one move away.

[KissedByaRose1]

Frankly since last summer AK has been doing a decent job. Obviously he created the situation he was in due to his own incompetence, but regardless he has responded pretty well in taking these belated steps to climb out of it.

Great Ayo extension. Caruso trade (whether you agreed with it or not it is highly defensible and objectively reasonable at worst). Buzelis draft. Moving on from DDR and Zach without hampering future flexibility. Getting the Spurs pick back. Committing to a real rebuild. Lonzo’s incredible deal.

I hate AK and don’t trust him. But if you don’t keep an open mind to changing evidence you are doing life wrong.

He hasn't been doing a great job, it's been better but still at least below average and the Williams extension alone shows he still hasn't learned anything/can't be trusted with the future of the team. And if Vooch/Heurter/Jones/White are all still on our roster after today we will have significatly damaged the greatest asset on the team which is our 2025 pick.

They are going for the play in.

Getting their pick back allows them to not make tough decisions.

This team just wants make money and convince you they are one move away.

Hopefully losing by 30 last night killed any dumbass notions of this =)

[Indomitable]

He hasn't been doing a great job, it's been better but still at least below average and the Williams extension alone shows he still hasn't learned anything/can't be trusted with the future of the team. And if Vooch/Heurter/Jones/White are all still on our roster after today we will have significatly damaged the greatest asset on the team which is our 2025 pick.

They are going for the play in.

Getting their pick back allows them to not make tough decisions.

This team just wants make money and convince you they are one move away.

Hopefully losing by 30 last night killed any dumbass notions of this =)

I will believe it when I see it.

[nitetrain8603]

Frankly since last summer AK has been doing a decent job. Obviously he created the situation he was in due to his own incompetence, but regardless he has responded pretty well in taking these belated steps to climb out of it.

Great Ayo extension. Caruso trade (whether you agreed with it or not it is highly defensible and objectively reasonable at worst). Buzelis draft. Moving on from DDR and Zach without hampering future flexibility. Getting the Spurs pick back. Committing to a real rebuild. Lonzo’s incredible deal.

I hate AK and don’t trust him. But if you don’t keep an open mind to changing evidence you are doing life wrong.

I think you're comparing Ak to previous years of AK. I'm comparing him to FO around the league. He's far below average.

He traded Caruso for one year of Giddey when he could've received two first rounders for him.

He traded Zach to unlock protection on a pick. Guess what? They were going to be mediocre enough to finish in the bottom 10 anyway.

We received no value back for DeMar.

Vuc is still here
Coby is still here
Ayo is a role player. You don't pay those guys yet
PWill is awful and was just extended

Only the ball resigning was good. All else was trash and remains trash.

He went from a 24/100 to a 45/100. Both scores are still failures.

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[DuckIII]

Frankly since last summer AK has been doing a decent job. Obviously he created the situation he was in due to his own incompetence, but regardless he has responded pretty well in taking these belated steps to climb out of it.

Great Ayo extension. Caruso trade (whether you agreed with it or not it is highly defensible and objectively reasonable at worst). Buzelis draft. Moving on from DDR and Zach without hampering future flexibility. Getting the Spurs pick back. Committing to a real rebuild. Lonzo’s incredible deal.

I hate AK and don’t trust him. But if you don’t keep an open mind to changing evidence you are doing life wrong.

I think you're comparing Ak to previous years of AK. I'm comparing him to FO around the league. He's far below average.

He traded Caruso for one year of Giddey when he could've received two first rounders for him.

He traded Zach to unlock protection on a pick. Guess what? They were going to be mediocre enough to finish in the bottom 10 anyway.

We received no value back for DeMar.

Vuc is still here
Coby is still here
Ayo is a role player. You don't pay those guys yet
PWill is awful and was just extended

Only the ball resigning was good. All else was trash and remains trash.

He went from a 24/100 to a 45/100. Both scores are still failures.

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You are just continuing to complain about scenarios created by his past incompetence. It’s right there in your post. I’m not.

If we had fired AK last May and hired Danny Ainge, and Ainge had done the literal exact same things AK has done since then everyone would be thanking god we got a GM who is finally trying to turn things around.

AK is a nightmare and I want him fired today and have wanted him fired for years. But he’s been solid since the end of last year. The complaints are actually complaints about what he did and didn’t do previously that led to these types of returns for Caruso, Zach and DDR.

[cubd8]

One playoff birth.

Play In Losses.

Stuck at the top of the bottom and descending.


JR gave him thumbs up to rebuild at last deadline and he decided not to.

Does he get a rebuild? How many more years without results?

Does Billy stick around?

If I’m a betting man…
- Billy leaves in the offseason for a playoff team or back to college
- AK gets canned before the draft… because we won’t have a 1st:) Billy leaving would be the nail in the coffin.

There's little/no reason to think he doesn't have an unlimited window to run the team. He's made the play-in which seemingly is important to the Reinsdorf's and is not just starting a rebuilding process that will likely need both luck/skill to turn this around in the near future.

[jnrjr79]

Frankly since last summer AK has been doing a decent job. Obviously he created the situation he was in due to his own incompetence, but regardless he has responded pretty well in taking these belated steps to climb out of it.

Great Ayo extension. Caruso trade (whether you agreed with it or not it is highly defensible and objectively reasonable at worst). Buzelis draft. Moving on from DDR and Zach without hampering future flexibility. Getting the Spurs pick back. Committing to a real rebuild. Lonzo’s incredible deal.

I hate AK and don’t trust him. But if you don’t keep an open mind to changing evidence you are doing life wrong.

I think you're comparing Ak to previous years of AK. I'm comparing him to FO around the league. He's far below average.

He traded Caruso for one year of Giddey when he could've received two first rounders for him.

He traded Zach to unlock protection on a pick. Guess what? They were going to be mediocre enough to finish in the bottom 10 anyway.

We received no value back for DeMar.

Vuc is still here
Coby is still here
Ayo is a role player. You don't pay those guys yet
PWill is awful and was just extended

Only the ball resigning was good. All else was trash and remains trash.

He went from a 24/100 to a 45/100. Both scores are still failures.

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The bolded part is pretty misleading. The Bulls may or may not have finished in the bottom 10 (it's certainly within reach!), but you still have two more years of top 8 protection to deal with moving forward, then you'd have lost a couple of seconds even if you somehow managed to stay in the bottom 8 (and not get jumped by a team behind you). The removal of the protections is very significant.

[jnrjr79]

Frankly since last summer AK has been doing a decent job. Obviously he created the situation he was in due to his own incompetence, but regardless he has responded pretty well in taking these belated steps to climb out of it.

Great Ayo extension. Caruso trade (whether you agreed with it or not it is highly defensible and objectively reasonable at worst). Buzelis draft. Moving on from DDR and Zach without hampering future flexibility. Getting the Spurs pick back. Committing to a real rebuild. Lonzo’s incredible deal.

I hate AK and don’t trust him. But if you don’t keep an open mind to changing evidence you are doing life wrong.

I think you're comparing Ak to previous years of AK. I'm comparing him to FO around the league. He's far below average.

He traded Caruso for one year of Giddey when he could've received two first rounders for him.

He traded Zach to unlock protection on a pick. Guess what? They were going to be mediocre enough to finish in the bottom 10 anyway.

We received no value back for DeMar.

Vuc is still here
Coby is still here
Ayo is a role player. You don't pay those guys yet
PWill is awful and was just extended

Only the ball resigning was good. All else was trash and remains trash.

He went from a 24/100 to a 45/100. Both scores are still failures.

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You are just continuing to complain about scenarios created by his past incompetence. It’s right there in your post. I’m not.

If we had fired AK last May and hired Danny Ainge, and Ainge had done the literal exact same things AK has done since then everyone would be thanking god we got a GM who is finally trying to turn things around.

AK is a nightmare and I want him fired today and have wanted him fired for years. But he’s been solid since the end of last year. The complaints are actually complaints about what he did and didn’t do previously that led to these types of returns for Caruso, Zach and DDR.

He obviously doesn't deserve massive credit for it, but the first step to get out of a hole is to stop digging, and I feel like he's at least reached that point.

We'll see - still time to do some good stuff or some dumb stuff today!