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Re: Lavine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls) 

Post#81 » by Muzbar » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:19 am

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HomoSapien wrote:Terrible trade. Why are we including our 2nd round pick? AK always includes a pick when it shouldn't be necessary. We would have gotten the Spurs pick back just by trading Zach. The only nuance here, which does matter, is that we don't have to worry about losing it any of the subsequent years.

Cowley is saying the Bulls aren't done yet. KC is also saying we need to get rid of two more players on our roster (likely Craig and Duarte) in order to pull off the Kings trade.


FYI - The 2025 2nd rd pick was already dealt to SA in the DeMar deal

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Re: Lavine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls) 

Post#83 » by NZB2323 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:20 am

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MrSparkle wrote:Pretty impressive run they’ve had, this FO…

Absolutely hilarious if the Kings receive a FRP for Zach on draft night (or next year). Then again they’re incompetent themselves.

AK’s screw job with the 2020-24 roster isn’t even complete, yet.
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I think that’s why they were hesitant to make trades; the return wasn’t great.
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Re: Lavine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls) 

Post#84 » by FriedRise » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:21 am

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Post#85 » by TheSuzerain » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:22 am

sco wrote:Tre Jones - don't really know anything about him. What do you guys know?

Seems like a solid backup PG.

Best asset of the players for sure.
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Re: Lavine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls) 

Post#86 » by step » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:23 am

HomoSapien wrote:Terrible trade. Why are we including our 2nd round pick? AK always includes a pick when it shouldn't be necessary. We would have gotten the Spurs pick back just by trading Zach. The only nuance here, which does matter, is that we don't have to worry about losing it any of the subsequent years.

Horrendous trade.

For a guy who values picks ... he sure has a funny way of showing it. Not pushing for picks when he should have (e.g. OKC) and carelessly throwing in 2nd rounders like they're candy (e.g. this trade, Spurs).

I think the other GM fakes some hesitation and he throws it in to sweeten the pot. 'Oh I can just go buy another one' ... but yet he doesn't.

ChiTownHero1992 wrote:lmao at everyone yelling about needing more picks (no one wanted Zach) i'm A-OK with this trade! Cut the salary in half with Tre's expiring

Not even close my friend.

Zach salary: $$43,031,940
Tre salary: $9,104,167
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Re: Lavine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls) 

Post#87 » by MrSparkle » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:23 am

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Post#88 » by drosestruts » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:24 am

Monk = better Coby White
Zach = Zach
DeMar - DeMar
Murray = better Patrick Williams
Sabonis = Better Vuc
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Post#89 » by meekrab » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:26 am

Hopefully this means half the roster will be gone by Thursday. We saw in his first deadline that when AK wants to move guys he goes all out.
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Post#90 » by step » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:26 am

HomoSapien wrote:I wonder if we can flip any of our new guys for picks? They've also had their moments, but all are having down years.

Not with AK at the helm. He'd probably be the one giving them up...
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Re: Lavine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls) 

Post#91 » by Repeat 3-peat » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:27 am

drosestruts wrote:Monk = better Coby White
Zach = Zach
DeMar - DeMar
Murray = better Patrick Williams
Sabonis = Better Vuc


With no Ball/Caruso caliber defender to help, plus in a much tougher conference*
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Re: Lavine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls) 

Post#92 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:27 am

step wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:Terrible trade. Why are we including our 2nd round pick? AK always includes a pick when it shouldn't be necessary. We would have gotten the Spurs pick back just by trading Zach. The only nuance here, which does matter, is that we don't have to worry about losing it any of the subsequent years.

Horrendous trade.

For a guy who values picks ... he sure has a funny way of showing it. Not pushing for picks when he should have (e.g. OKC) and carelessly throwing in 2nd rounders like they're candy (e.g. this trade, Spurs).

I think the other GM fakes some hesitation and he throws it in to sweeten the pot. 'Oh I can just go buy another one' ... but yet he doesn't.

ChiTownHero1992 wrote:lmao at everyone yelling about needing more picks (no one wanted Zach) i'm A-OK with this trade! Cut the salary in half with Tre's expiring

Not even close my friend.

Zach salary: $$43,031,940
Tre salary: $9,104,167


I think AK is notorious for not valuing picks.
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Post#93 » by Indomitable » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:28 am

HomoSapien wrote:I wonder if we can flip any of our new guys for picks? They've also had their moments, but all are having down years.

Who actually has believes that they will get picks
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Post#94 » by drosestruts » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:28 am

So Fox generates two more assist a game than Zach, plays better defense, is much much less efficient and also has never won a playoff series in his entire career and he's worth Zach and 3 1sts???
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Post#95 » by HomoSapien » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:29 am

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Post#96 » by kulaz3000 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:29 am

It's not a great trade, but considering there were talks that we had to attach picks to get out of his contract, and instead we only had to send out a second means that Zach's play this season helped in that regard. Lets not forget that, his value around the league was THAT bad.

And people viewing that the Bulls didn't get a pick in this trade is wrong, being handcuffed to another team for control of a pick is essentially not having a draft pick, 3 seasons is an eternity in the NBA. So to finally not have to worry about standings and retain that pick, and also having the ability to trade the pick if there is an opportunity, is a positive.

That all said, there are players that need to go out, meaning that the ramifications of this trade is still not fully complete, so I won't judge this trade as a whole just yet, because we could still get a few seconds coming our way, but as it stands right now, we are the clear losers out of the 3 parties involved, but being honest with myself, I wasn't hoping for much out of Zach either, though I know many were getting their hopes up due to his play this season.

If we end up with our pick back, and are able to flip some of additional players for a handful of seconds, and possibly a first with Vuc (even if it's a late first round pick), I take it and move forward with a clean rebuild. At least now we FINALLY have a clear direction for this franchise, as opposed to being stuck in no-mans land.

I will say though, if they end up just waiving 2 players to complete the trade, and there are no additional moves by the trade deadline, the front office just adds another reason as to why they shouldn't be part of the Bulls franchise, let alone any other NBA franchise. Because all of these trades they have done recently, getting less value than they could have, is completely on them and not making moves when the iron is hot, and over and over again, keeping a hold of players way too long.
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Re: Lavine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls) 

Post#97 » by MrSparkle » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:30 am

Kings and Bulls ownership should marry each other.
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Post#98 » by GoBlue72391 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:30 am

Three salary filler bums and our own pick which we were going to get anyway? We basically gave him away for free. Awesome.
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Post#99 » by lostonbase » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:30 am

This team is amazing, the only first round pick they get is one they could have had if they picked a lane earlier in the year. AKME are not very good at their jobs.
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Re: Lavine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls) 

Post#100 » by Chi town » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:30 am

Only AK could trade for DDR and have it cost him Lavine!!!

Considering Lavine was reportedly going to cost us a 1st to unload…

He rehabbed his value to get us our 1st back and one year less of his 47M contract.

Bulls now have two expirings next year that can facilitate trades in Collins and Huerter.

We also have a 26M TPE.

It’s clear we are tanking this year and next. Dybantsa and Peterson are 26 draft and even better than Flagg.

AK seems to finally be doing it right.

Now trade Vuc to Dubs for Looney and Shroeder expirings and 2nds.

Trade Coby for a young player and a 1st. Magic works.

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