Bulls vs Nets 7pm CT Mar. 13 2025

[kodo]

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Expires this season, is he coming back?

If they're not resigning him he shouldn't be playing.

[BullChit]

Thank you Arturas and Billy for the Vucevic ride. It was an amazing 4 years. Here’s to another one.

Amazing that now we have to watch Chicago ruin their tank odds by finally limiting Vuc’s minutes.

We won that trade though right... Can definitely say it now yeah?

[Dan Z]

Bully Ball SG Coby starting to look like a keeper???

Makes no sense to move him

One of the best young scoring guards in the L

I like Coby, but have mixed thoughts about this. What do you think his next contract will look like?

Is the plan to have a "big three" of Giddey, Cody and Matas? I don't see that team going very far.

[pipfan]

At least they're playing hard. We have some decent young pieces.
Jones has been really good-do we buyout Carter and bring him back?

Just need to make sure to move Vuc. I still like Nurkic/#37 for Vuc-Char gets a great back up C, Bulls free up Collins/Smith minutes, get a 3rd center-expiring in Nurkic who can play a bit and a pick (plus save a little $-always nice for ownership)

Coby/Ayo
Ball/Huerter
Giddy/Phillips
Matas/PWill
Collins/Smith
Plus Nurkic, Carter (assuming no buyout and Jones leaves), Terry and our #10 pick

[lostonbase]

What the hell are the Bulls doing? Why is Red Velvet and Jones getting 33 minutes to Buzz's 15? PLAY IN OR BUST?

[WesPeace]

Bully Ball SG Coby starting to look like a keeper???

I mostly like how he is playing lately, but we played a lot of poor teams and those drives to the rim wont fly in playoffs. I think he has a lot of tunnel vision iso crap,especially drives to the bucket..

But first what I would do is trim that horrible hair ,that bothers me the most LMAO

Also what bothers me a lot is Billy D D.Jones/Drummond treatment of Smith!!! If Bulls somehow end up with another C in Vooch trade, Smith will still end up 3rd C with Billy

Tre Jones - they gotta find a way to keep him.. but Carter must not exercise his player option OR he does and we find a way to get him traded.

[MrSparkle]

Thank you Arturas and Billy for the Vucevic ride. It was an amazing 4 years. Here’s to another one.

Amazing that now we have to watch Chicago ruin their tank odds by finally limiting Vuc’s minutes.

We won that trade though right... Can definitely say it now yeah?

Vuc’s a big part of what we want to do!
McDouble machine!

[sco]

I admit that I am confused what to root for at this point. I just root for good play from our guys, win or lose. That said, there wasn't much to take from a game against another tank team, although BKN isn't trying to lose and had most of its guys.

Kudos to Coby. I don't know what to make of his play of late. I do believe that he plays much better when he doesn't need to be the primary distributor or defer to someone else on the floor. I'd rather have him do this and give us a reason to keep him that play so bad that we need him gone...worst case, he's upping his trade value. Also, good to see him playing his best in clutch time, when opponent if double-teaming him.

Ditto on Jones. He is making the most of his time here, showing the value of a 2-way guard to this team. He is certainly making Ayo and Ball look expendable. He's looking like a guy who could command MLE money at this point.

Huerter also showing some 2-way value. IMO, he's a good glue guy with high BBIQ. He probably looks better because he is replacing the minutes otherwise played by Terry and THT.

Vuc stunk and I give BD credit for sticking with Collins down the stretch...Vuc +/- was -9, Collins was +14. Says everything.

Matas pick-up up 3 early fouls and had him playing tentative. Billy was right to give Phillips more minutes. He was definitely playing harder...good for him. I think it sends the right message to Matas.

PWill wasn't cringeworthy, so that's something.

[ShouldaPaidBG]

At least they're playing hard. We have some decent young pieces.
Jones has been really good-do we buyout Carter and bring him back?

Just need to make sure to move Vuc. I still like Nurkic/#37 for Vuc-Char gets a great back up C, Bulls free up Collins/Smith minutes, get a 3rd center-expiring in Nurkic who can play a bit and a pick (plus save a little $-always nice for ownership)

Coby/Ayo
Ball/Huerter
Giddy/Phillips
Matas/PWill
Collins/Smith
Plus Nurkic, Carter (assuming no buyout and Jones leaves), Terry and our #10 pick

I feel like Nurk is a bad locker room presence

[League Circles]

What the hell are the Bulls doing? Why is Red Velvet and Jones getting 33 minutes to Buzz's 15? PLAY IN OR BUST?

Who knows with Billy and AK, but I wouldn't be shocked if they think limiting Buzelis helps the tank relative to some of these other guys.

[FriedRise]

I think we can all agree that Collins has been mostly meh these last few years, but he's a center that does center things: play defense, contest everything, rebound, set screen, move the ball, and be an efficient finisher at the rim. I wonder how much better we'd be if we just had a center who does center things with the full squad instead of Vooch.

Vooch is more skilled for sure, but he comes at a cost of not having a defensive presence in the paint and that's just a huge L for the center position.

[sco]

I think we can all agree that Collins has been mostly meh these last few years, but he's a center that does center things: play defense, contest everything, rebound, set screen, move the ball, and be an efficient finisher at the rim. I wonder how much better we'd be if we just had a center who does center things with the full squad instead of Vooch.

Vooch is more skilled for sure, but he comes at a cost of not having a defensive presence in the paint and that's just a huge L for the center position.

Great points. Thinking same. Add the fact that Vuc needs to be funneled the ball to be his best. And that disrupts the offense from a normal flow.

[drosestruts]

A lot of talk about Buzelis's minutes which is just very odd to me.

It seemed like we had near board-wide agreement that playing Williams minutes he didn't deserve didn't do anything positive for Williams or the Bulls.

Now after a game where Matas is clearly being outplayed by two forwards in Williams and Phillips the board suddenly wants entitlement minutes again?

That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

If Matas wants more minutes, he should play better. Period.


The other glaring thing from this game is the +/- between Vuc (-9) and Collins (+15) in a 6-point win.

Vuc is the tank commander.

I'm not sure why we coddle and bend over backwards so much to appease Vucevic. At this point I'd clearly tell him he's the third-string center for the rest of the season and that we'll look to trade him somewhere he wants to be in the offseason, and barring that, that we'll work with him on a buyout.

If Collins and Smith are healthy, they should play every minute available at the center position.

Vuc's services are no longer needed.

Vucevic doesn't help us win

Vucevic isn't a young player we're looking to earn experience

Vucevic is not improving his trade value by playing

Vucevic alone isn't enough of a tank commander to meaningfully impact our draft position

There's 0 reason to be playing Vucevic.


And my last thoughts on the game. I'm not sure we re-sign Tre Jones or not, but just a reminder that sign and trades seem to be more popular than ever. Our options aren't limited to re-signing him or losing him for nothing.

[Chi town]

I think we can all agree that Collins has been mostly meh these last few years, but he's a center that does center things: play defense, contest everything, rebound, set screen, move the ball, and be an efficient finisher at the rim. I wonder how much better we'd be if we just had a center who does center things with the full squad instead of Vooch.

Vooch is more skilled for sure, but he comes at a cost of not having a defensive presence in the paint and that's just a huge L for the center position.

This team if healthy is a 6th seed minus Vuc. Collins makes a huge difference. Healthy Zo helps.

Giddey and Coby are streaking but they are also now attacking the rim getting FTs. Coby is def a SG. Plays much less dumb at SG.

Our ceiling is still pretty low even if super Giddey is real. Buz would have to become an all star and we’d need a stud rim running defensive C to be anything better than top 4 in the East.

[Chi town]

A lot of talk about Buzelis's minutes which is just very odd to me.

It seemed like we had near board-wide agreement that playing Williams minutes he didn't deserve didn't do anything positive for Williams or the Bulls.

Now after a game where Matas is clearly being outplayed by two forwards in Williams and Phillips the board suddenly wants entitlement minutes again?

That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

If Matas wants more minutes, he should play better. Period.


The other glaring thing from this game is the +/- between Vuc (-9) and Collins (+15) in a 6-point win.

Vuc is the tank commander.

I'm not sure why we coddle and bend over backwards so much to appease Vucevic. At this point I'd clearly tell him he's the third-string center for the rest of the season and that we'll look to trade him somewhere he wants to be in the offseason, and barring that, that we'll work with him on a buyout.

If Collins and Smith are healthy, they should play every minute available at the center position.

Vuc's services are no longer needed.

Vucevic doesn't help us win

Vucevic isn't a young player we're looking to earn experience

Vucevic is not improving his trade value by playing

Vucevic alone isn't enough of a tank commander to meaningfully impact our draft position

There's 0 reason to be playing Vucevic.


And my last thoughts on the game. I'm not sure we re-sign Tre Jones or not, but just a reminder that sign and trades seem to be more popular than ever. Our options aren't limited to re-signing him or losing him for nothing.

Buz lost mins because Pat and Philipps played well. No problem there. Playing Huerter all those mins is the issue.

Vuc not playing kills his trade value. Being benched for Collins is crunch time is indicting. AK is an as absolute idiot for not trading him for expirings. Now he won’t be able to get rid of him.

Giving Smith DNPs is so dumb. Play him at PF. Experiment. Billy is so square.

[waffle]

the attacking Cody is very very very interesting....was this always there? Probably?

Great to see Phillips get some run. He was GREAT last night

We almost have a good team. Not quite and I don't see how we make the transition next year. We have a lot of decent complimentary players but no stars. Only Matas has the potential to be a star and that's far from a sure thing...really far

It will be very interesting to see which of these complimentary players are still with us next season. We have too many B players and no A ones

[Chi town]

the attacking Cody is very very very interesting....was this always there? Probably?

Great to see Phillips get some run. He was GREAT last night

We almost have a good team. Not quite and I don't see how we make the transition next year. We have a lot of decent complimentary players but no stars. Only Matas has the potential to be a star and that's far from a sure thing...really far

It will be very interesting to see which of these complimentary players are still with us next season. We have too many B players and no A ones

We are team of 4-8 players. Giddey and Coby 3rd best types. We need a 1 and a 2.

[RSP83]

In March, through 6 games, Coby is putting up 29.3 pts, 5.5 rebs, 3.3 ast on a 49% FG, 35% 3PT, 90% FT, 61.6% TS.

[Chi town]

In March, through 6 games, Coby is putting up 29.3 pts, 5.5 rebs, 3.3 ast on a 49% FG, 35% 3PT, 90% FT, 61.6% TS.

Bully Ball Down Hill SG Only Coby may be a keeper. His defense still sucks but he’s much less a liability not handling nearly as much and looking to get all the way to the rim.

Didn’t realize he was so good at FTs. Big part of him improving is getting his FTs up to 6 per game. Much like Giddey.

[kodo]

A lot of talk about Buzelis's minutes which is just very odd to me.

It seemed like we had near board-wide agreement that playing Williams minutes he didn't deserve didn't do anything positive for Williams or the Bulls.

Now after a game where Matas is clearly being outplayed by two forwards in Williams and Phillips the board suddenly wants entitlement minutes again?

That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

If Matas wants more minutes, he should play better. Period.

There's no entitlement with Matas, he's one of the best defenders on the team and he's literally the best shotblocker F in the league. Offensively he's the best lob finisher / cutter on the team.

Players should not get yanked out of their minutes because they're having a bad game or a bench player is having a good one, good teams have consistency in role and rotations regardless of who's hot and who's cold. If we benched whoever is cold, Coby would have been benched for 3/4 of the season.

All season Matas has been better than Williams or Phillips.