Melo 17: Death or Glory

BigUps · Post #801 » by **BigUps** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:51 am

I went to a movie, so I've been away for 2 hours. Can someone do me a 'solid' and give the readers digest of what happened? A trade with Utah?

Vicino · Post #802 » by **Vicino** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:52 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:
Vicino wrote:
So I didn't want to be just another Rando with a Source, but my Father and I have relationships with two Sr. Partners at Seyfarth Shaw LLP HQ'd in Chicago: One of the partners called me earlier this afternoon (b/c he knows how closely I'm following the Melo situation) and the other partner confirmed via text that Carmelo's Attorneys will definitely be in Chicago by tomorrow mid-morning.

NOTE: I've been a heavy-lurker throughout this Melo process, and wanted to take a moment to thank you all for helping me through this roller coaster of a week. My process has been: 1) Read latest breaking story from (insert that hack ESPN/Yahoo "Insider") 2) Dial into 4-way conference-call with my Bro's to discuss the legitimacy/effect of said latest news 3) Come here to read through latest 8-10 pages of latest Melo Thread 4) Re-calibrate my thoughts on whether we land Melo.

Right now, I am very confident Melo will be a Bull.

Do law partners really give out confidential information like this? I just chatted with a lawyer friend about this post, and he was very dubious, FWIW.

We should all be very dubious. But we partying in here so...nah.

Yes, we all should be very dubious - Anyone can sit here and very easily poke-holes in my info, but I figured I'd at least share it with you guys.

I wasn't going to even post anything, but once I saw Bluewater's comments I thought if this info is coming from two different AmLaw100 Firms in Chicago, it's certainly at least worth a conversation.

Darius Miles, law partners that have zero-involvement with Melo's dealings and aren't breaking any kind of attorney-client-privilege have no problem anonymously relaying this kind of information.

Post #803 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:52 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 · Post #804 » by **ChiCitySPORTS#1** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:52 am

SSSFreak wrote:Strange thing it that the Knicks would be worse of with a full max Melo over 5 years, rather than starting the rebuild now. They'll be like "YESSSSS we got MELO SUCKAZZ!... ummm we screwed."

No one wins if Melo goes to the Knicks for the max. Not them, not us

BullRosed · Post #805 » by **BullRosed** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:52 am

Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:
MnM24 wrote:
BrooklynBulls wrote:
Can you provide a link? And what trade are you referring to? The one for Novak, which eats into their caproom and makes a Boozer trade LESS likely?

Here's where says Booz to Jazz is a done deal:
viewtopic.php?p=40340216#p40340216
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1331343&p=40306848#p40306848
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1331343&p=40305675#p40305675

He just said there would be a trade yesterday and a lot of people doubted it because it was July 4th:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1332323&p=40379553#p40379553

Hmmmm not sure I buy that three-team deal involving CHI-UTA-NYK.

Who is this bullslaS he seems to be pretty sure and confident has he been right in the past ? Is he a creditable poster I hope so ? Anybody know ?

HINrichPolice · Post #806 » by **HINrichPolice** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:53 am

BrooklynBulls wrote:The rights can be traded yes, but this doesn't help ramp up salary, and this is something that we'd need in an S&T, particularly if Boozer isn't part of it.

I don't agree. Isn't that why the Deeks article is so important? Sham is saying we can amnesty Boozer while still being able to get Melo at a decent (from Melo's POV) salary via S&T. And by "decent", I mean more than 17M and less than the Lakers max offer, so 20'ish million?

Sidenote: Mark Deeks also vaguely mentioned something on twitter about the possibility of using Kirk Hinrich in a S&T. I don't know how that factors in, but maybe that means we can use Kirk to ramp up the salary as you say to give Melo even more, perhaps the same amount as the LA max?

Dez · Post #807 » by **Dez** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:54 am

Read the Lakers thread about the S&T for Gasol, they reckon they'll get Butler and a pick to go with Boozers expiring contract for Gasol and want us to take Nash as well.

I had a massive lol at that.

MalikJoakim24 · Post #808 » by **MalikJoakim24** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:54 am

BullRosed wrote:
Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:
MnM24 wrote:Here's where says Booz to Jazz is a done deal:
viewtopic.php?p=40340216#p40340216
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1331343&p=40306848#p40306848
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1331343&p=40305675#p40305675

He just said there would be a trade yesterday and a lot of people doubted it because it was July 4th:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1332323&p=40379553#p40379553

Hmmmm not sure I buy that three-team deal involving CHI-UTA-NYK.

Who is this bullslaS he seems to be pretty sure and confident has he been right in the past ? Is he a creditable poster I hope so ? Anybody know ?

He said there was a deal yesterday going down and a deal went down yesterday... We can only hope...

Post #809 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:55 am

HINrichPolice wrote:
BrooklynBulls wrote:The rights can be traded yes, but this doesn't help ramp up salary, and this is something that we'd need in an S&T, particularly if Boozer isn't part of it.

I don't agree. Isn't that why the Deeks article is so important? Sham is saying we can amnesty Boozer while still being able to get Melo at a decent (from Melo's POV) salary via S&T. And by "decent", I mean more than 17M and less than the Lakers max offer, so 20'ish million?

17.4 million. And my opinion is that this simply isn't near enough.

SSSFreak · Post #810 » by **SSSFreak** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:55 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
SSSFreak wrote:Strange thing it that the Knicks would be worse of with a full max Melo over 5 years, rather than starting the rebuild now. They'll be like "YESSSSS we got MELO SUCKAZZ!... ummm we screwed."

No one wins if Melo goes to the Knicks for the max. Not them, not us

We really would neither win nor lose. We would still be in a far better position than NY.

MalikJoakim24 · Post #811 » by **MalikJoakim24** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:55 am

BigUps wrote:I went to a movie, so I've been away for 2 hours. Can someone do me a 'solid' and give the readers digest of what happened? A trade with Utah?

Some Knicks fan said Melo2Chi
Some Bulls Fan (or Knicks Troll) said Melo2NYK
Latest Reports said Melo to Bulls or LA (People think Melo is just bluffing Phil to S&T him with Chicago saying he'll take the max to LA if Phil doesn't S&T to the 312)

LobosJordan · Post #812 » by **LobosJordan** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:55 am

Knicks knew they were on the ropes, so they tried to throw that D Rose monkey wrench to Broussard yesterday to try and show Melo that Rose didn't really want him. What a bunch of no good slime balls.

Axl Rose · Post #813 » by **Axl Rose** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:55 am

so what would Melo's lawyers come for?

contract stuff?

bullslas · Post #814 » by **bullslas** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:56 am

BrooklynBulls wrote:l

Utah is not matching a max for him.

da pmp · Post #815 » by **da pmp** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:56 am

bullslas wrote:
BrooklynBulls wrote:
Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:

Hmmmm not sure I buy that three-team deal involving CHI-UTA-NYK.

I don't buy anything there.

Buy anything you want. A deal is in place and if NYK don't want Boozer, Utah is waiting to accept.

As far as Gasol, it's plan B with no Melo and Taj being used to get us a SF, SG help.

BullRosed · Post #816 » by **BullRosed** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:56 am

bullslas wrote:
BrooklynBulls wrote:
Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:

Hmmmm not sure I buy that three-team deal involving CHI-UTA-NYK.

I don't buy anything there.

Buy anything you want. A deal is in place and if NYK don't want Boozer, Utah is waiting to accept.

As far as Gasol, it's plan B with no Melo and Taj being used to get us a SF, SG help.

I hope your right pal..... You seem very confident in what you are saying when do you think this will happend?

Maybe this is why melo is taking so long he's waiting for the bulls to make a move with boozer after all guys we had a 9 hour meeting with the guy we wasn't playing hop scotch and checkers we was talking about options and are plan melo will be a bull

Evil_Headband · Post #817 » by **Evil_Headband** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:56 am

BigUps wrote:I went to a movie, so I've been away for 2 hours. Can someone do me a 'solid' and give the readers digest of what happened? A trade with Utah?

Bulls are getting Melo and Gasol, Utah is being used as a salary dumping place, Melos lawyers will be at a Chicago law firm tomorrow.

Either all that or nothing has actually happened.

MalikJoakim24 · Post #818 » by **MalikJoakim24** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:56 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
SSSFreak wrote:Strange thing it that the Knicks would be worse of with a full max Melo over 5 years, rather than starting the rebuild now. They'll be like "YESSSSS we got MELO SUCKAZZ!... ummm we screwed."

No one wins if Melo goes to the Knicks for the max. Not them, not us

Bulls won't lose if Melo takes the Max to the Knicks... They still don't have talent and that weak team isn't a threat to the Bulls with a healthy Rose.

MalikJoakim24 · Post #819 » by **MalikJoakim24** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:57 am

LobosJordan wrote:Knicks knew they were on the ropes, so they tried to throw that D Rose monkey wrench to Broussard yesterday to try and show Melo that Rose didn't really want him. What a bunch of no good slime balls.

LobosJordan the GOAT

aaqubed · Post #820 » by **aaqubed** » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:58 am

HINrichPolice wrote:
BrooklynBulls wrote:The rights can be traded yes, but this doesn't help ramp up salary, and this is something that we'd need in an S&T, particularly if Boozer isn't part of it.

I don't agree. Isn't that why the Deeks article is so important? Sham is saying we can amnesty Boozer while still being able to get Melo at a decent (from Melo's POV) salary via S&T. And by "decent", I mean more than 17M and less than the Lakers max offer, so 20'ish million?

Sidenote: Mark Deeks also vaguely mentioned something on twitter about the possibility of using Kirk Hinrich in a S&T. I don't know how that factors in, but maybe that means we can use Kirk to ramp up the salary as you say to give Melo even more, perhaps the same amount as the LA max?

Deeks' article didn't really say anything new. If we amnesty Boozer and then do a S&T using cap space, we cannot be more than $100k over the cap after the S&T. I don't see of any way for that to work without us giving up Taj Gibson in the S&T.