Options to fix the PF hole

[gobullschi]

What about signing Marquese Chriss?

He doesn't move the needle. He's worse than our two undersized PF options, he can't shoot, and he's not much of a defender. What would be the point?

He’s coming back from a serious injury so it’s expected for him to have a slow start. He actually started to turn into a decent defender prior to his injury. He’s got all the athletic tools and doesn’t cost the Bulls an asset.

[StunnerKO]

He signed his 3rd 10 day with the mavs

[FriedRise]

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[nanokooshball]

What about Gallinari?

AK is familiar with him from playing in Denver.
Savy veteran, 3pt shooting, bullies smaller players and gives you size at the 4. Probably in the twilight of his career, but he played pretty well last year.

I'm guessing Hawks wouldn't mind unloading him for nothing because they're about to hit the tax with a non playoff team at this point

[bad knees]

We can trade for Larry Nance Jr, right? It's just that we can't send DJJ back to POR because of the player re-acquisition rule, I think. So how about Nance for TBJ, McKinnie, Thomas? We take on 3 M in salary and an extra year of Nance at $10 M, but we get our PF with size who can play defense.

[sco]

We can trade for Larry Nance Jr, right? It's just that we can't send DJJ back to POR because of the player re-acquisition rule, I think. So how about Nance for TBJ, McKinnie, Thomas? We take on 3 M in salary and an extra year of Nance at $10 M, but we get our PF with size who can play defense.

Why does POR do that trade? We'd need to include their pick back in that deal for any consideration.

[kodo]

We can trade for Larry Nance Jr, right? It's just that we can't send DJJ back to POR because of the player re-acquisition rule, I think. So how about Nance for TBJ, McKinnie, Thomas? We take on 3 M in salary and an extra year of Nance at $10 M, but we get our PF with size who can play defense.

Why does POR do that trade? We'd need to include their pick back in that deal for any consideration.

Also seems unlikely since we had Nance in the first place, and we traded him for DJ.
Most likely the same reason we can't do most of these trades, Lance is a sizeable contract the same year we have to max Lavine.

We are probably going to get rid of salary, not add it. Should probably be talking more about players like Vanderbilt, $4M for the next 3 years. 13 rebounds per 36.

[Wingy]

While I’m a swing for the fences guy, gobullschi and I saw the same game closing matchup between KD and Keita Bates-Diop.

Now I think KD simply missed a number of shots he normally makes, KBD did not at all look overmatched physically.

Seems like a nice defensive target that could theoretically be had for cheap. Trade can be done via Thomas, or Javonte straight up salary wise. Toss in Blazers pick for our pick back, and perhaps add the best 2nd we have?

[Wingy]

Also seems unlikely since we had Nance in the first place, and we traded him for DJ.
Most likely the same reason we can't do most of these trades, Lance is a sizeable contract the same year we have to max Lavine.

We are probably going to get rid of salary, not add it. Should probably be talking more about players like Vanderbilt, $4M for the next 3 years. 13 rebounds per 36.

But no one knew the team would be so good at the time. I’d give their pick back w/TBJ and a nothing sandwich of required salary filler (Marko/Thomas work).

Problem with Vanderbilt. We’d have to massively overpay. Young, cheap, productive, and starting on a team that is playoff starved, and fighting for position. That’s exactly the kind of guy teams hold on to tight.

[GoBlue72391]

What about Gallinari?

AK is familiar with him from playing in Denver.
Savy veteran, 3pt shooting, bullies smaller players and gives you size at the 4. Probably in the twilight of his career, but he played pretty well last year.

I'm guessing Hawks wouldn't mind unloading him for nothing because they're about to hit the tax with a non playoff team at this point

I'd be down with that, assuming the asking price isn't too much and we fail to land a starting-caliber player like Grant or Barnes. He doesn't help us defensively, but he checks all the other boxes by providing size, shooting, and another bench scoring option.

[bad knees]

We can trade for Larry Nance Jr, right? It's just that we can't send DJJ back to POR because of the player re-acquisition rule, I think. So how about Nance for TBJ, McKinnie, Thomas? We take on 3 M in salary and an extra year of Nance at $10 M, but we get our PF with size who can play defense.

Why does POR do that trade? We'd need to include their pick back in that deal for any consideration.

Also seems unlikely since we had Nance in the first place, and we traded him for DJ.
Most likely the same reason we can't do most of these trades, Lance is a sizeable contract the same year we have to max Lavine.

We are probably going to get rid of salary, not add it. Should probably be talking more about players like Vanderbilt, $4M for the next 3 years. 13 rebounds per 36.

POR does this trade to save money - $3 M this year (plus lux tax reduction), and Nance's contract for next year. Their season is a wash, so they might as well save money. This trade takes them from $3M into the lux tax to essentially even. Given the financial implications, there is no need for us to include the POR pick. We do it, even though it will have tax implications next year, because Nance is the sort of PF/C that could help us move from contender to top contender for a championship. Bulls can afford it.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/portland-trail-blazers//cap

The fact that we took DJJ and the draft assets over Nance does not mean that we do not value Nance - only that we wanted the draft assets as well as a useful piece. At the time, we were staring down the tampering investigation. Getting both a FRP and a 2nd round pick gave us assets to deal with that situation.

No way are we getting Vanderbilt. MIN is playing well, and JV is a big part of it. They made it clear that they would match any RFA offer this past summer; there is no way that this changes now.

[Bulls2021]

Why does POR do that trade? We'd need to include their pick back in that deal for any consideration.

Also seems unlikely since we had Nance in the first place, and we traded him for DJ.
Most likely the same reason we can't do most of these trades, Lance is a sizeable contract the same year we have to max Lavine.

We are probably going to get rid of salary, not add it. Should probably be talking more about players like Vanderbilt, $4M for the next 3 years. 13 rebounds per 36.

POR does this trade to save money - $3 M this year (plus lux tax reduction), and Nance's contract for next year. Their season is a wash, so they might as well save money. This trade takes them from $3M into the lux tax to essentially even. Given the financial implications, there is no need for us to include the POR pick. We do it, even though it will have tax implications next year, because Nance is the sort of PF/C that could help us move from contender to top contender for a championship. Bulls can afford it.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/portland-trail-blazers//cap

The fact that we took DJJ and the draft assets over Nance does not mean that we do not value Nance - only that we wanted the draft assets as well as a useful piece. At the time, we were staring down the tampering investigation. Getting both a FRP and a 2nd round pick gave us assets to deal with that situation.

No way are we getting Vanderbilt. MIN is playing well, and JV is a big part of it. They made it clear that they would match any RFA offer this past summer; there is no way that this changes now.

I would love to get Nance here. He's a perfect fit for a cheap option at PF/backup C

[jump]

Why does POR do that trade? We'd need to include their pick back in that deal for any consideration.

Also seems unlikely since we had Nance in the first place, and we traded him for DJ.
Most likely the same reason we can't do most of these trades, Lance is a sizeable contract the same year we have to max Lavine.

We are probably going to get rid of salary, not add it. Should probably be talking more about players like Vanderbilt, $4M for the next 3 years. 13 rebounds per 36.

POR does this trade to save money - $3 M this year (plus lux tax reduction), and Nance's contract for next year. Their season is a wash, so they might as well save money. This trade takes them from $3M into the lux tax to essentially even. Given the financial implications, there is no need for us to include the POR pick. We do it, even though it will have tax implications next year, because Nance is the sort of PF/C that could help us move from contender to top contender for a championship. Bulls can afford it.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/portland-trail-blazers//cap

The fact that we took DJJ and the draft assets over Nance does not mean that we do not value Nance - only that we wanted the draft assets as well as a useful piece. At the time, we were staring down the tampering investigation. Getting both a FRP and a 2nd round pick gave us assets to deal with that situation.

No way are we getting Vanderbilt. MIN is playing well, and JV is a big part of it. They made it clear that they would match any RFA offer this past summer; there is no way that this changes now.

Don't forget, at the time of the trade we had a healthy Pat Williams to man that position. There was not need for Nance, especially when AKME valued more the draft pick. Had PWill already been injured, that trade might have been totally different.

[Wingy]

I don’t know as Nance is realistic though as they are supposedly looking to upgrade around Dame. What kind of message does it send Dame if they jettison an offseason upgrade for money? Might be a way to actually push him out of town when he doesn’t actually want to leave I suppose.

If I were them I’d be trying to sell him on a stealth tank, but who knows if he’d buy into that at his age.

[prolific passer]

Here me out.
Time machine, any year from 89-94, Horace Grant

[bad knees]

I don’t know as Nance is realistic though as they are supposedly looking to upgrade around Dame. What kind of message does it send Dame if they jettison an offseason upgrade for money? Might be a way to actually push him out of town when he doesn’t actually want to leave I suppose.

If I were them I’d be trying to sell him on a stealth tank, but who knows if he’d buy into that at his age.

Stealth tank is their best option. Who the heck knows. It’s plausible though.

[Bulls2021]

I don’t know as Nance is realistic though as they are supposedly looking to upgrade around Dame. What kind of message does it send Dame if they jettison an offseason upgrade for money? Might be a way to actually push him out of town when he doesn’t actually want to leave I suppose.

If I were them I’d be trying to sell him on a stealth tank, but who knows if he’d buy into that at his age.

I think they can sell it to him honestly. Tank this year while he and CJ are out. Get the best possible pick so you can draft a stud to play with CJ+Dame or use it in a big trade package. Stack up assets this season and swing for a homerun during the offseason .

[Bulls2021]

Here me out.
Time machine, any year from 89-94, Horace Grant

We could trade for Jerami Grant and force him to wear the goggles his uncle Horace wore. The crowd would love it.

[prolific passer]

Here me out.
Time machine, any year from 89-94, Horace Grant

We could trade for Jerami Grant and force him to wear the goggles his uncle Horace wore. The crowd would love it.

They could have done that with Jerian.

[Bulls2021]

Here me out.
Time machine, any year from 89-94, Horace Grant

We could trade for Jerami Grant and force him to wear the goggles his uncle Horace wore. The crowd would love it.

They could have done that with Jerian.

That would have been offensive and tarnishing to Horace's great Bulls legacy.