2019 Draft Thread Volume #6 - Post Lottery

[SfBull]

How would you guys feel if it went like this?
1. Zion
2. Morant
3. Barrett
4. Garland
5. Reddish
6. White

Get to pick between Culver and Hunter. I would take Hunter. I disagree with those completely dismissing him. I think his ceiling is Paul George and his floor is relatively high.

I said on lottery day that one of Garland, Culver or Hunter would be available at 7. I feel that more strongly right now, although my hopes of Garland have faded to almost zero.

Reddish and Hayes will likely be available at that point.Would you pick one of them with #7?

[CoreyVillains]

Nice breakdown...I checked out couple more videos of him. He's definitely a scoring PG and a guy you'll want to put in a 6th man roll. I like how he uses spin moves when attacking the basket. He looks like a slightly more efficient chucker than Blakeney, but I don't think I would pick him over Windler, Nowell, and Samanic at 38 if they're available.

He’s much more of a team player than Blakeney. He had a 29.2 assist % with a 10.3 to %. And he’ll D up his position, had a 4.1 steal %. But he does need to work on his shot selection a bit, but he was the number one guy on SJU, so I think he is smart enough to adjust based on his role in the NBA.

If he's bringing other things to the table like assists and defense, and knowing his role, then I wouldn't mind him getting picked over couple guys. Where are you getting those percentages from?

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/shamorie-ponds-1.html

[Linkels90]

Hunter reminds me of way he projects out to be and his build to a prime Ron Artest.

[Chi town]

IMO Mikal>Hunter solely due to handle, more versatility, and ability to defend 1-4. This is why I want Culver over Hunter.

I’d rather trade back at 7 and draft langford then stay put and take Hunter.

You don’t see versatility in Hunter?

Defensively he can defend 3-4. Offensively he’s basically a PF or a stiff SF.

I see way more versatility in Culver.

[Chi town]

He’s much more of a team player than Blakeney. He had a 29.2 assist % with a 10.3 to %. And he’ll D up his position, had a 4.1 steal %. But he does need to work on his shot selection a bit, but he was the number one guy on SJU, so I think he is smart enough to adjust based on his role in the NBA.

If he's bringing other things to the table like assists and defense, and knowing his role, then I wouldn't mind him getting picked over couple guys. Where are you getting those percentages from?

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/shamorie-ponds-1.html

Meh. Ponds is what he is. His body looks weak. Don’t see anything special.

I’d love a Monte Morris 2nd Round Pick... just don’t see one.

[SfBull]

At this point, I would prefer Garland (if we don't need to give up any real assets to get him i.e. Dunn, Val, Mem 2nd rounder). Then I can't easily choose between whose going to be the better pro between White, Hunter, Reddish or Culver and would be fine with any of them at 7.

I think strategically, we'd be better off not drafting White or Garland and using our limited FA firepower on a vet PG and grabbing a wing at 7. I'm still high on Tacko Fall at #38.

A vet FA PG named Rose being the most realistically option for me.

[SfBull]

How would you guys feel if it went like this?
1. Zion
2. Morant
3. Barrett
4. Garland
5. Reddish
6. White

Get to pick between Culver and Hunter. I would take Hunter. I disagree with those completely dismissing him. I think his ceiling is Paul George and his floor is relatively high.

I said on lottery day that one of Garland, Culver or Hunter would be available at 7. I feel that more strongly right now, although my hopes of Garland have faded to almost zero.

I think he is too robotic to possibly be George, but
I can see a borderline all star type player.

Or a bust . It's a huge gamble drafting him but feeling that any of the players available after #1-#3 won't likely be stars for the Bulls from the start I'd be fine with choosing any of them.

[SfBull]

Did a breakdown on St.John’s Shamorie Ponds. If we don’t go PG in round 1, Ponds is someone I’d look into. Excellent handle, underrated distributor who rarely turns the ball over, excellent defender with a fantastic steal rate(defensive vid coming soon), decent shooter who can get his own shot but needs to watch his shot selection at the next level, played in a multi-ball handler system at SJU. He’s a junior so he’ll be 21 at the start of next season, but I also feel he has a good NBA future if he lands in the right system.

Watch on YouTube

Nice breakdown...I checked out couple more videos of him. He's definitely a scoring PG and a guy you'll want to put in a 6th man roll. I like how he uses spin moves when attacking the basket. He looks like a slightly more efficient chucker than Blakeney, but I don't think I would pick him over Windler, Nowell, and Samanic at 38 if they're available.

He’s much more of a team player than Blakeney. He had a 29.2 assist % with a 10.3 to %. And he’ll D up his position, had a 4.1 steal %. But he does need to work on his shot selection a bit, but he was the number one guy on SJU, so I think he is smart enough to adjust based on his role in the NBA.

He seems to be much better than Blakeney.I like the idea of drafting him with #38 of giving him a try at Summer League if undrafted.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

IMO Mikal>Hunter solely due to handle, more versatility, and ability to defend 1-4. This is why I want Culver over Hunter.

I’d rather trade back at 7 and draft langford then stay put and take Hunter.

You don’t see versatility in Hunter?

Defensively he can defend 3-4. Offensively he’s basically a PF or a stiff SF.

I see way more versatility in Culver.

Defensively I think you’re selling him short. He can guard 2-5(small ball centers)

Offensively I think he can play 2-5 also.

If he puts on 10lbs of muscle which I think is normal there’s no reason to think he won’t be able to handle small 5s.

[WindyCityBorn]

At this point, I would prefer Garland (if we don't need to give up any real assets to get him i.e. Dunn, Val, Mem 2nd rounder). Then I can't easily choose between whose going to be the better pro between White, Hunter, Reddish or Culver and would be fine with any of them at 7.

I think strategically, we'd be better off not drafting White or Garland and using our limited FA firepower on a vet PG and grabbing a wing at 7. I'm still high on Tacko Fall at #38.

A vet FA PG named Rose being the most realistically option for me.

Rose would be a good option for backup PG. I will puke if we bring him in to start. Rubio and Beverley are much better options because they actually play most of the season.

[WindyCityBorn]

White, Reddish and Culver. In that order.

[SfBull]

Hunter played a nice cushy role on the best team in the country. I watched him and rarely came away all that impressed with him as an overall basketball player. Sure, he had a good efficient season, but will it translate to the pro game. I say no. He will get drafted by a team who will need him to do more than he's capable of doing. The results will more than likely result in a subpar rookie campaign.

DeAndre Hunter is the Mikal Bridges of this draft year. I wasn't high on Bridges and my opinion is the same about Hunter.

My top 6 has changed a little but not all that much.

Zion Williamson- Not getting him
Bol Bol
R.J Barrett- Not getting him
Ja Morant- Not getting him
Coby White
Darius Garland

Bol Bol not getting him too.
Hunter, being a SF/PF combo player, would come for the Bulls without much pressure as he wouldn't start ahead of Porter or even Lauri so why we need him to do more than he is capable of doing? He'll likely come from the bench growing slowly or not.It wouldn't be the same situation for Garland or White as Dunn didn't established himself as our starter point guard.

[R3AL1TY]

He’s much more of a team player than Blakeney. He had a 29.2 assist % with a 10.3 to %. And he’ll D up his position, had a 4.1 steal %. But he does need to work on his shot selection a bit, but he was the number one guy on SJU, so I think he is smart enough to adjust based on his role in the NBA.

If he's bringing other things to the table like assists and defense, and knowing his role, then I wouldn't mind him getting picked over couple guys. Where are you getting those percentages from?

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/shamorie-ponds-1.html

Oops...I made a mistake and was looking at Jordan Bone's numbers. But even comparing these two, Ponds is the better player despite his usage being higher.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Hunter reminds me of Draymon Green with more offense, less defense. I don’t think he has the handles to be Paul George.

I have Hunter>Reddish>Culver>White

[Dresden]

Hunter reminds me of way he projects out to be and his build to a prime Ron Artest.

Not a bad comp. I would think Hunter will be a much better 3 pt shooter than Artest, but not as good of a defender. Artest was really something special on D in his prime.

But just being a good to very good 3 pt shooter and a good wing defender will guarantee Hunter a long nba career I should think- either as a starter for most teams or a top bench player for a very good team. I think at #7 he would be a good pick. Maybe not the most sexy, but who can't use another high level 3 and D wing in today's nba? It's like taking the sure double v. the 25/75 odds of a home run or a strikeout.

[Dresden]

Hunter reminds me of Draymon Green with more offense, less defense. I don’t think he has the handles to be Paul George.

I have Hunter>Reddish>Culver>White

Draymond's playmaking is light years ahead of Hunter's. Hunter's 3 pt shooting is much better than Dray's.

[Dresden]

Hunter played a nice cushy role on the best team in the country. I watched him and rarely came away all that impressed with him as an overall basketball player. Sure, he had a good efficient season, but will it translate to the pro game. I say no. He will get drafted by a team who will need him to do more than he's capable of doing. The results will more than likely result in a subpar rookie campaign.

DeAndre Hunter is the Mikal Bridges of this draft year. I wasn't high on Bridges and my opinion is the same about Hunter.

My top 6 has changed a little but not all that much.

Zion Williamson- Not getting him
Bol Bol
R.J Barrett- Not getting him
Ja Morant- Not getting him
Coby White
Darius Garland

Bol Bol not getting him too.
Hunter, being a SF/PF combo player, would come for the Bulls without much pressure as he wouldn't start ahead of Porter or even Lauri so why we need him to do more than he is capable of doing? He'll likely come from the bench growing slowly or not.It wouldn't be the same situation for Garland or White as Dunn didn't established himself as our starter point guard.

I don't know why the OP thinks Hunter will be forced to do more than he is capable of. Even the lousy teams at the bottom of the league have a star or two from recent drafts (PHO, ATL, CLE). I don't think anyone would expect Hunter to come in and be the franchise player. Coaches are smarter than that, and if a team IS looking for that, they'd draft Reddish or Culver instead.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Hunter reminds me of Draymon Green with more offense, less defense. I don’t think he has the handles to be Paul George.

I have Hunter>Reddish>Culver>White

Draymond's playmaking is light years ahead of Hunter's. Hunter's 3 pt shooting is much better than Dray's.

Yeah, Green is currently the much better player.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

The way Hunter gets his points reminds me of college Kawhi.

Kawhi has a bit of fluidity in his favor. Hand size too. Meanwhile Hunter’s shot is much farther along. But the straight line drives, the simple but functional handle, the finishing style, and the rise and touch from mid range look very similar to me.

Obviously Kawhi’s development while in the league is damn near unprecedented, so I’m not projecting Hunter to become Kawhi, or anywhere close to that level. But a lot of the tools are comparable, which to me is some reason for optimism about Hunter’s potential as a creator.

I already like Hunter’s ability to separate and his passing touch more than I do Culver’s. If he can add a bit more dynamism to his handle - something he didn’t start working on in earnest until he got to Virginia - he has upside as a 2nd or 3rd option.

Watch on YouTube

[Dresden]

A second round pick idea: Chuma Okeke. Draftnet has him as our pick at 38. He may be gone before that, but if not....he shot 38 and 39% on 3's in his two years in college. Last year he had 1.2 blocks and 1.8 steals, to go with 12 pts. and 6.8 boards. 6'8, 230- he could play 3 or 4- probably more suited to 4. Definitely a load in the paint though, as we saw in the NCAA's.

If we don't go with a wing in the first round particularly, Okeke would give us some nice depth at 3/4 I think.

Interestingly, draftnet has Jontay Porter all the way down to 47 in their latest mock....