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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#881 » by TimRobbins » Tue Sep 1, 2015 5:32 pm

jnrjr79 wrote:The most repugnant thing about these continued posts are in the way you simply convict anyone accused, based on the supposed rarity of accusation. I can't think of anything more fundamentally at odds with the American justice system and simple notions of right and wrong.


I'm hardly convicting anybody. I'm just informing the large crowd of people bashing the accuser that false accusations are rare.

If bashing the accuser part of the American Justice System?
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Post#882 » by DaeDae » Tue Sep 1, 2015 6:17 pm

Polynice4Pippen wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:
TimRobbins wrote:
Not really. How many celebrities were accused of rape?


Off the top of my head:

Tyson
Kobe
Chris Brown
Cosby
Cee-Lo
R.Kelly
Jameis Winston
Sheen
Woody Allen
2Pac
Big Ben
Sean Penn

I'm sure there's a lot more.


Juwan Howard. And he won a defamation of character lawsuit against the woman who falsely accused him as well.


Don't forget the entire Duke Lacrosse team.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#883 » by GetBuLLish » Tue Sep 1, 2015 6:22 pm

And don't forget about Chris Birdman Andersen, who was accused of having sex with a minor, or whatever the heck the wild, bogus accusation was.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#884 » by TimRobbins » Tue Sep 1, 2015 6:34 pm

GetBuLLish wrote:And don't forget about Chris Birdman Andersen, who was accused of having sex with a minor, or whatever the heck the wild, bogus accusation was.


Nobody falsely accused him of anything. His identity was stolen.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#885 » by GetBuLLish » Tue Sep 1, 2015 6:35 pm

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I don't know of dozens. I do know there are very few NBA players who were accused of rape. You can count the number of NBA players accused of rape during the past decade on one hand. It's a very exclusive club. I sincerely hope that Rose can settle this issue soon, but I'm also hoping the Bulls part ways with him as soon as possible.


How many nba players in the last decade do you know have committed rape?

If the number can be counted on one hand, then that means Rose didn't commit rape, under your "logic," right?
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#886 » by TimRobbins » Tue Sep 1, 2015 6:39 pm

GetBuLLish wrote:
TimRobbins wrote:
I don't know of dozens. I do know there are very few NBA players who were accused of rape. You can count the number of NBA players accused of rape during the past decade on one hand. It's a very exclusive club. I sincerely hope that Rose can settle this issue soon, but I'm also hoping the Bulls part ways with him as soon as possible.


How many nba players in the last decade do you know have committed rape?

If the number can be counted on one hand, then that means Rose didn't commit rape, under your "logic," right?


I'm going with those who were mentioned here:

Ruben Patterson, Kobe, Juwan Howard, Rose.

I don't know if Rose committed rape. I do know very few players get accused of rape and very few complaints are false.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#887 » by GetBuLLish » Tue Sep 1, 2015 6:51 pm

TimRobbins wrote:
GetBuLLish wrote:And don't forget about Chris Birdman Andersen, who was accused of having sex with a minor, or whatever the heck the wild, bogus accusation was.


Nobody falsely accused him of anything. His identity was stolen.


Dude, he was under criminal investigation for 15 months for having sexual relations with a minor. No NBA team wanted to touch him at the time and he was widely considered by the public to be a child predator. It only turned out later that it was all Bs and that his identity was stolen.

But under your awful logic, you can only count on one hand the number of NBA players accused of having sex with a minor, so he must have been guilty.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#888 » by GetBuLLish » Tue Sep 1, 2015 6:53 pm

TimRobbins wrote:
GetBuLLish wrote:
TimRobbins wrote:
I don't know of dozens. I do know there are very few NBA players who were accused of rape. You can count the number of NBA players accused of rape during the past decade on one hand. It's a very exclusive club. I sincerely hope that Rose can settle this issue soon, but I'm also hoping the Bulls part ways with him as soon as possible.


How many nba players in the last decade do you know have committed rape?

If the number can be counted on one hand, then that means Rose didn't commit rape, under your "logic," right?


I'm going with those who were mentioned here:

Ruben Patterson, Kobe, Juwan Howard, Rose.

I don't know if Rose committed rape. I do know very few players get accused of rape and very few complaints are false.


Two out of those three guys were obviously innocent. Not a great argument for your there.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#889 » by drbg43 » Tue Sep 1, 2015 7:06 pm

TimRobbins wrote:I sincerely hope that Rose can settle this issue soon, but I'm also hoping the Bulls part ways with him as soon as possible.


Keep on prayin', my friend. Dude will likely be a Bull lifer.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#890 » by jnrjr79 » Tue Sep 1, 2015 8:00 pm

TimRobbins wrote:
jnrjr79 wrote:The most repugnant thing about these continued posts are in the way you simply convict anyone accused, based on the supposed rarity of accusation. I can't think of anything more fundamentally at odds with the American justice system and simple notions of right and wrong.


I'm hardly convicting anybody. I'm just informing the large crowd of people bashing the accuser that false accusations are rare.

If bashing the accuser part of the American Justice System?



I'm not seeing much accuser bashing, which is what makes your knee-jerk reaction so striking. I do see a lot of people parsing the allegations of the complaint and seeing if they make sense. Guess what, that's what you do when a lawsuit is filed!

Obviously, people are hoping a rape did not occur. Who wouldn't? It seems to me the vast majority of the posts I've read would concede that the poster does not know one way or the other what actually happened.

You appear to be a solution in search of a problem.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#891 » by jnrjr79 » Tue Sep 1, 2015 8:01 pm

TimRobbins wrote:
GetBuLLish wrote:And don't forget about Chris Birdman Andersen, who was accused of having sex with a minor, or whatever the heck the wild, bogus accusation was.


Nobody falsely accused him of anything. His identity was stolen.



Demonstrably not true!
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#892 » by truth18 » Tue Sep 1, 2015 8:07 pm

GetBuLLish wrote:
TimRobbins wrote:
GetBuLLish wrote:And don't forget about Chris Birdman Andersen, who was accused of having sex with a minor, or whatever the heck the wild, bogus accusation was.


Nobody falsely accused him of anything. His identity was stolen.


Dude, he was under criminal investigation for 15 months for having sexual relations with a minor. No NBA team wanted to touch him at the time and he was widely considered by the public to be a child predator. It only turned out later that it was all Bs and that his identity was stolen.

But under your awful logic, you can only count on one hand the number of NBA players accused of having sex with a minor, so he must have been guilty.


Malone was/is guilty. A woman tried to ruin Chris Andersen's life
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#893 » by johnnyvann840 » Tue Sep 1, 2015 10:29 pm

GetBuLLish wrote:
TimRobbins wrote:
GetBuLLish wrote:And don't forget about Chris Birdman Andersen, who was accused of having sex with a minor, or whatever the heck the wild, bogus accusation was.


Nobody falsely accused him of anything. His identity was stolen.


Dude, he was under criminal investigation for 15 months for having sexual relations with a minor. No NBA team wanted to touch him at the time and he was widely considered by the public to be a child predator. It only turned out later that it was all Bs and that his identity was stolen.

But under your awful logic, you can only count on one hand the number of NBA players accused of having sex with a minor, so he must have been guilty.


Yup, and under his awful logic we should just all assume that because somebody is accused of this, that they are very much, probably, guilty.. because it is so very rare and even rarer for a false allegation to be brought... even by someone who is so obviously lying about a lot of things.

I mean, why not just say what you really mean, TimRobbins? .. since you've already said it in so many ways... you are assuming that Rose is guilty and you think that the chance this woman is lying is remote. In your mind, he is already convicted. That is sad and I hope people like you never make it to a jury box.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#894 » by johnnyvann840 » Tue Sep 1, 2015 10:38 pm

TimRobbins wrote:... I'm also hoping the Bulls part ways with him as soon as possible.


OK, man. We know. You hate Derrick Rose.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#895 » by TeK » Tue Sep 1, 2015 11:12 pm

Three sides to every story right? Truth is Dick Rose and friends most likely did run a train on someone who he was ALREADY dating, and likely already banging, she was probably blackout drunk/rolling and willingly obliged to what sounded like a really hot idea at the time. Two yrs later she needs money or see's some sort of opportune time to strike and this is where we are at today.

Let's be real. DRose is DRose, I don't think he needs to rape YOU of all people, as there are lines of em ready. Lets be real #2. DRose isnt the classiest individual, so the fact that he had a wife and baby at the time doesn't surprise me that consistent sex was happening (most likely at that Trump Tower pad). The sheer fact that her side is releasing sensitive data that does not pertain to the rape allegation (Drose wanted me to masturbate on cam! .....And whats your point B?) is a clear sign that she is applying pressure for them to settle and settle soon before more comes out that could further damage Rose's brand.

TL;DR: Drose and friends run train on random D was already banging, random needs money, claims rape, willing to settle out of court, gets paid off, story goes away after Drose gets traded to NY for Melo.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#896 » by red222 » Tue Sep 1, 2015 11:50 pm

TeK wrote:Three sides to every story right? Truth is Dick Rose and friends most likely did run a train on someone who he was ALREADY dating, and likely already banging, she was probably blackout drunk/rolling and willingly obliged to what sounded like a really hot idea at the time. Two yrs later she needs money or see's some sort of opportune time to strike and this is where we are at today.

Let's be real. DRose is DRose, I don't think he needs to rape YOU of all people, as there are lines of em ready. Lets be real #2. DRose isnt the classiest individual, so the fact that he had a wife and baby at the time doesn't surprise me that consistent sex was happening (most likely at that Trump Tower pad). The sheer fact that her side is releasing sensitive data that does not pertain to the rape allegation (Drose wanted me to masturbate on cam! .....And whats your point B?) is a clear sign that she is applying pressure for them to settle and settle soon before more comes out that could further damage Rose's brand.

TL;DR: Drose and friends run train on random D was already banging, random needs money, claims rape, willing to settle out of court, gets paid off, story goes away after Drose gets traded to NY for Melo.

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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#897 » by Indomitable » Wed Sep 2, 2015 12:01 am

TimRobbins wrote:
GetBuLLish wrote:And don't forget about Chris Birdman Andersen, who was accused of having sex with a minor, or whatever the heck the wild, bogus accusation was.


Nobody falsely accused him of anything. His identity was stolen.

Police came and took his computers.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#898 » by Indomitable » Wed Sep 2, 2015 12:09 am

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TeK wrote:Three sides to every story right? Truth is Dick Rose and friends most likely did run a train on someone who he was ALREADY dating, and likely already banging, she was probably blackout drunk/rolling and willingly obliged to what sounded like a really hot idea at the time. Two yrs later she needs money or see's some sort of opportune time to strike and this is where we are at today.

Let's be real. DRose is DRose, I don't think he needs to rape YOU of all people, as there are lines of em ready. Lets be real #2. DRose isnt the classiest individual, so the fact that he had a wife and baby at the time doesn't surprise me that consistent sex was happening (most likely at that Trump Tower pad). The sheer fact that her side is releasing sensitive data that does not pertain to the rape allegation (Drose wanted me to masturbate on cam! .....And whats your point B?) is a clear sign that she is applying pressure for them to settle and settle soon before more comes out that could further damage Rose's brand.

TL;DR: Drose and friends run train on random D was already banging, random needs money, claims rape, willing to settle out of court, gets paid off, story goes away after Drose gets traded to NY for Melo.

You made TimRobbins look good. Rose has Never been engaged much less married. The rest of your post was written by a drunken fratbboy I assume.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#899 » by johnnyvann840 » Wed Sep 2, 2015 2:33 am

During this whole thing, I learned one very bizarre and disturbing fact.... Bill Cosby and Marv Albert both allegedly raped, or tried to rape, the same woman. (at different times, of course).
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#900 » by dice » Wed Sep 2, 2015 3:30 am

TimRobbins wrote:
jnrjr79 wrote:The most repugnant thing about these continued posts are in the way you simply convict anyone accused, based on the supposed rarity of accusation. I can't think of anything more fundamentally at odds with the American justice system and simple notions of right and wrong.


I'm hardly convicting anybody. I'm just informing the large crowd of people bashing the accuser that false accusations are rare.

true. it's also rare that the accused has millions of dollars and an obvious public relations incentive to pay off the accuser
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