Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

[waffle]

I hate that trade biggie

[sco]

I am rooting to land Zion, but short of that, I'm thinking we may be best served packaging our 1st, Dunn, Felicio and Valentine for a yet-to-be found star.

[DanTown8587]

Conley for Wendell, Felicio, Dunn, Blakeney
Resign Lopez (3/9.5 with last year TO)
Bring in DeAmare Carroll on the room exception
Resign Selden (3/13 with last year TO)
Resign Archi (3/9 with last year TO)
Draft whoever

Conley / Lavine / Porter / Lauri / Lopez
#1, #2, Archi, Selden, Valentine, Hutchison, Carroll
Min Salary guys: Dragan Bender, Christian Wood, Nik Stuaskas
2 way: CJ Fair, Walter Lemon

[sco]

Conley for Wendell, Felicio, Dunn, Blakeney
Resign Lopez (3/9.5 with last year TO)
Bring in DeAmare Carroll on the room exception
Resign Selden (3/13 with last year TO)
Resign Archi (3/9 with last year TO)
Draft whoever

Conley / Lavine / Porter / Lauri / Lopez
#1, #2, Archi, Selden, Valentine, Hutchison, Carroll
Min Salary guys: Dragan Bender, Christian Wood, Nik Stuaskas
2 way: CJ Fair, Walter Lemon

If Conley wasn't over 30 and injury prone, maybe, but adding WCJ and rolling with RoLo sounds like a recipe for perpetual 8th seed. The ONLY way this makes any sense is if we land Zion.

[DanTown8587]

Conley for Wendell, Felicio, Dunn, Blakeney
Resign Lopez (3/9.5 with last year TO)
Bring in DeAmare Carroll on the room exception
Resign Selden (3/13 with last year TO)
Resign Archi (3/9 with last year TO)
Draft whoever

Conley / Lavine / Porter / Lauri / Lopez
#1, #2, Archi, Selden, Valentine, Hutchison, Carroll
Min Salary guys: Dragan Bender, Christian Wood, Nik Stuaskas
2 way: CJ Fair, Walter Lemon

If Conley wasn't over 30 and injury prone, maybe, but adding WCJ and rolling with RoLo sounds like a recipe for perpetual 8th seed. The ONLY way this makes any sense is if we land Zion.

Conley makes sense as he drastically improves the P&R over Zach and his contract fits with Porter so you're not really out cap space. Going into the 2021 off-season, the only money on the books is draft picks + Lavine + Lauri so your a FA destination if hit on a draft pick and if you don't, you can just bring back Porter/Conely on smaller salaries or do something else.

The real answer is this team built around Lavine, Porter, and Lauri is never approaching anything without getting a star in the draft and if that's the case, the far more prudent play is to slowly build up and maximize the star in the draft to time FA with him. This is just taking this team out of the terrible portion of the East and if they hit on a draft pick in an all-star kind of way (like say who they draft is like a Tatum type impact) then all of the sudden you have something here.

[sco]

Conley for Wendell, Felicio, Dunn, Blakeney
Resign Lopez (3/9.5 with last year TO)
Bring in DeAmare Carroll on the room exception
Resign Selden (3/13 with last year TO)
Resign Archi (3/9 with last year TO)
Draft whoever

Conley / Lavine / Porter / Lauri / Lopez
#1, #2, Archi, Selden, Valentine, Hutchison, Carroll
Min Salary guys: Dragan Bender, Christian Wood, Nik Stuaskas
2 way: CJ Fair, Walter Lemon

If Conley wasn't over 30 and injury prone, maybe, but adding WCJ and rolling with RoLo sounds like a recipe for perpetual 8th seed. The ONLY way this makes any sense is if we land Zion.

Conley makes sense as he drastically improves the P&R over Zach and his contract fits with Porter so you're not really out cap space. Going into the 2021 off-season, the only money on the books is draft picks + Lavine + Lauri so your a FA destination if hit on a draft pick and if you don't, you can just bring back Porter/Conely on smaller salaries or do something else.

The real answer is this team built around Lavine, Porter, and Lauri is never approaching anything without getting a star in the draft and if that's the case, the far more prudent play is to slowly build up and maximize the star in the draft to time FA with him. This is just taking this team out of the terrible portion of the East and if they hit on a draft pick in an all-star kind of way (like say who they draft is like a Tatum type impact) then all of the sudden you have something here.

I'd rather try to package Dunn and our pick (if not #1) for Jrue Holiday, who is 3 years younger than Conley.

[terry]

So what's our cap space situation right now for this offseason.? How much do we have to spend?

And what's the maximum we can have if we renounced or didnt bring back any of our free agents

[NecessaryEvil]

2019 1st
2019 2nd
Dunn
Carter Jr.

for AD

G Lavine
G Hutchinson / Valentine
F Porter Jr. / Valentine
F Davis
C Markkanen

If we could find a way to include Holiday, we'd be instant contenders.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Partly inspired by Coldfish in another thread

Bulls trade 4 pick, Dunn

Denver trades Morris, Michael Porter Jr, 2020 1st rounder

Morris looks legit, Bulls also get a high upside guy in MPJ. Future pick helps too

[ImSlower]

Assuming this isn't top 3? I'd be quite fine with Morris as our penciled in PG. Porter could become a sleeper. I don't think they'd also throw in a 1st, though it would be a definite win for us in my book.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Yeah it would be if the pick is at 4. I think there is a clear top 3, and then some enormous question marks for everyone after Zion, Ja, and Barrett.

I also think Denver’s stance on the deal depends if they believe in Murray as their star pg. if they do, Morris doesn’t seem as a huge loss, MPJ is a big question mark, and that pick will be late 20s.

One spot they would love to add a Star is at wing, and if they like Reddish, I could see them loving this deal.

[WindyCityBorn]

Either role the dice in the draft or get an established elite player for our pick. No projects already in the league.

[GimmeDat]

I like Morris, but I think when the dust settles he'll be a high end backup / low end starter, somewhere between a Cory Joseph to a Darren Collison level PG. He's also a UFA after his current deal (which is admittedly a complete steal up til 2021).

I was never super high on MPJ, I think if Denver does the deal they must not feel amazing about his health or overall projection either, and I don't think there's a great opportunity given how stacked we now are at the 3 and 4.

I lean towards no, though I understand the idea of trading if we end up at 4. I just think there's other deals we could explore in that scenario with the pick. But I think it's a very out of the box and great idea.

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This is my one I'm going to offer up. I know Lonzo is polarizing, because I mentioned him before the deadline, but I think he's a perfect fit for this roster and has impact potential.

Lonzo / 13 for Dunn / 4

Lonzo's been really great when healthy, and he brings a combination of high IQ/not too high usage/elite defense that I think lends itself well around our multiple ball-handlers and great spacing. And if the shot continues to progress which I think it will, then bingo. My only issue with the fit is the issue of driving/FTr/FT%, and how he may not be able to take advantage of the spacing provided.

13 is a dropoff but not a massive one from 4 either. Could pick up someone like Porter Jr., Johnson, etc. with that pick.

[sco]

I like Morris, but I think when the dust settles he'll be a high end backup / low end starter, somewhere between a Cory Joseph to a Darren Collison level PG. He's also a UFA after his current deal (which is admittedly a complete steal up til 2021).

I was never super high on MPJ, I think if Denver does the deal they must not feel amazing about his health or overall projection either, and I don't think there's a great opportunity given how stacked we now are at the 3 and 4.

I lean towards no, though I understand the idea of trading if we end up at 4. I just think there's other deals we could explore in that scenario with the pick. But I think it's a very out of the box and great idea.

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This is my one I'm going to offer up. I know Lonzo is polarizing, because I mentioned him before the deadline, but I think he's a perfect fit for this roster and has impact potential.

Lonzo / 13 for Dunn / 4

Lonzo's been really great when healthy, and he brings a combination of high IQ/not too high usage/elite defense that I think lends itself well around our multiple ball-handlers and great spacing. And if the shot continues to progress which I think it will, then bingo. My only issue with the fit is the issue of driving/FTr/FT%, and how he may not be able to take advantage of the spacing provided.

13 is a dropoff but not a massive one from 4 either. Could pick up someone like Porter Jr., Johnson, etc. with that pick.

Not a bad deal. I agree adding defense next to Zach makes sense as a Dunn replacement. That said, I'm starting to sour on the non-scoring PG model...same as I soured on the non-rim-protecting C. Between Dunn and Lonzo, I think Dunn has a better chance of becoming offensively competent.

I don't think Denver does the proposed deal for Morris.

[bulliedog8]

This is my one I'm going to offer up. I know Lonzo is polarizing, because I mentioned him before the deadline, but I think he's a perfect fit for this roster and has impact potential.

Lonzo / 13 for Dunn / 4

Lonzo's been really great when healthy, and he brings a combination of high IQ/not too high usage/elite defense that I think lends itself well around our multiple ball-handlers and great spacing. And if the shot continues to progress which I think it will, then bingo. My only issue with the fit is the issue of driving/FTr/FT%, and how he may not be able to take advantage of the spacing provided.

13 is a dropoff but not a massive one from 4 either. Could pick up someone like Porter Jr., Johnson, etc. with that pick.

How about doing this instead, which helps the lakers with more cap too.

Bulls: Lonzo
Lakers: #4

Just a straight swap of pick for lonzo. We keep Dunn, they keep the 13.

Lonzo Dunn Archi
Lavine Valentine Seldon
Otto Hutch
Lauri
Wendell

Then sign a PF and possible re-sign lopez

[Repeat 3-peat]

If the Bulls are trading a top 5 pick I want it to be in a package for someone like Lillard.

Draft picks are too valuable, especially in the lottery. You hit on a pick you could have control of that player for almost 8-9 years.

[Ugly Duckling]

I would give up a 2nd rd pick and take on some salary for Monte Morris

[GimmeDat]

One further thought I think 4 is too much to give up, even with 13 coming back. Perhaps if we get another 1st coming our way, or use a combination of smaller assets, it might be better. I like him as a target though and he should be available.

[StunnerKO]

Bring Noah BYKE

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[CoreyVillains]

If the front office traded a top 10 pick for Monte Morris or Lonzo Ball, it would immediately be the worst move of their tenure.