The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Here is a more complete pre-draft workout and runs of Patrick Williams that was posted recently. He definitely looks a bit improved from his FSU vids. Note he is also scrimmaging with some NBA players.

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I'm legit excited after watching this.

I think we all are.

What are you seeing that has you fired up?

He has touch, some shake, and looks effing massive.

If the perimeter defense is there - and I mean within reason, not this 1-5 nonsense - then yeah, I totally see it.

[2018C3]

Someone should start a poll, on how many wins the bulls might get next season if everyone stays healthy and the roster stays put. I'm thinking somewhere in the 36-42 range. With 42 being the best outcome, and just squeaking into the playoffs for the first time in several years.

72 games. Not 82. 42-30 would be 3-4th seed.

I’m thinking 36-38. I think you will some teams stealth ya k since the draft will be so good.

Up until now I was unaware that the games to be played has been reduced. My most optimistic view will see the team finishing around .500

For a 72 game season, I'm thinking 32-37 wins. This team has a lot of work to do before they can be respectable again. Hopefully we have already hit rock bottom, and the curve will now be up.

This last year the Bulls only won 33% of there games. That's a better start than Pax had. He took over a team that only won 25% of there games, and had a 18 year run strait from the start with a better a record than the team he got, and although his leadership ran its course he also handed over the team to new leadership with a better a record than the one he first received.

Looking back, Pax had a nice run mid way throughout his leadership. In his prime, the team made the playoffs 11 times in 13 years. Completely missing out the first two years, and also the last three. His central "Thibodeau" years were quite enjoyable as a fan.

[fleet]

I like the size and speed, I just felt his handle was a bit basic. But it's hard to judge from clips like this because it's a pickup game where no one really tries hard on defense. But the video is encouraging for sure.

College is a different game for sure. some people own that game and fail in the NBA. Some people own the NBA as unearthed gems from college. I’m sure scouts identified skills he can learn, and projected him on the next level. The Bulls will prob bring him along slowly and let him do what he knows how to do and wont ask for more until he’s ready.

Agreed, and I'm optimistic about this pick because of our revampved coaching staff/developmental team plus it seems like Williams is coachable.

It’s going to be a RealGM nightmare for a couple years while he is decided to be a bust because he doesn’t have everything down as a 19-20 year old

[chitowndish]

Yeah this kid looks real deal and you can see what AK meant about the handle and passing skills that left handed bullet pass was crazy. I think the defend every position doesn't mean you are going to put him out there at PG full time but his coach did heavily use Patrick to put full court pressure on opposing PG and it wasn't a small part of the strategy it seems like it was a pretty big part of his role on the team and it was created for him specifically because of how good he was at doing it. I think the idea is he can be switched onto any player on the court and be able to defend them and I've seen enough of these big wings do that to quick PG for stretches or switches that I personally don't doubt it but we'll see.

The other one that I see is he isn't likely to blow by smaller SF and I am not too worried about that because he can just overpower those guys and with his strength take them into the post like Lauri should have been able to do. You can see he has skill in that post up where they tell him to be patient and he takes a second and fires off that fadeaway jumper. If he's trying to blow by smaller players he's ignoring his biggest strength against them he should punish those guys physically and when I watch him play he seems to get that.

Overall though he's probably going to take time as he is really young so I like that we have OPJ and Lauri and we can just let him back up SF or PF and I think he'll be able to switch onto anyone on the court and at least give you respectable defense so he can really solidify things for us on that end and we just need more high IQ players so he'll be a big help there. We have time to evaluate them if he's a PF and we like him we move on from Lauri or Carter. If he can play SF and Lauri balls out this year you maybe look at a White, Lavine, Williams, Lauri, Carter lineup. I like it because there isn't a lot of pressure on him to come in and produce but it gives us a lot of flexibility if we need to move on from anyone.

[Portiseyes]

So was that really Ingram that P Will was giving the serious business to? I know this is just a workout game but... that looked pretty borderline disrespectful from the 4 min mark on... after that dunk (where yeah PW looks to be pretty effortlessly getting head height to the rim) was Ingram getting sweat out of his eye or was he shaking his head like damn I’m getting cooked by this dude and this **** is going to end up on YouTube...

Good times. Golden State might be **** themselves.

[GimmeDat]

A day later, I've bought in to this pick a lot.

PatWill seems to have improved his body for the better already, and from what I've read, seems to have upside to potentially improve his foot-speed if he corrects physical imbalances. That's not to say I believe he can be an SF, still pretty wary on that one, seems like an unlikely possibility to me, but it should improve his game and his defensive versatility a bit more.

Combine that with the fact that he was really underutilized his freshman season and has shown really positive flashes as a passer/handler/pull-up shooter, there is a lot to like.

I see AK's vision now and I'm sorry I doubted him, if only for 24 hours, lol. I'm officially excited for this pick. Him and WCJ are going to form such an exciting back-court.

Front court right?

Yeah, haha

[Southpaw]

Someone should start a poll, on how many wins the bulls might get next season if everyone stays healthy and the roster stays put. I'm thinking somewhere in the 36-42 range. With 42 being the best outcome, and just squeaking into the playoffs for the first time in several years.

Ideally we're in the 9-10 range where we have a shot at making the playoffs via the mid-season tournament while still getting a shot at a top pick. Perfect slot for a young team like ours.

[johnnyvann840]

So was that really Ingram that P Will was giving the serious business to? I know this is just a workout game but... that looked pretty borderline disrespectful from the 4 min mark on... after that dunk (where yeah PW looks to be pretty effortlessly getting head height to the rim) was Ingram getting sweat out of his eye or was he shaking his head like damn I’m getting cooked by this dude and this **** is going to end up on YouTube...

Good times. Golden State might be **** themselves.

...and that's Trae Young he steals a pass from. Nice to see him looking right at home against other NBA lottery picks that have experience in the league already.. even young stars like Trae, Spencer and Ingram.

[fleet]

Hehe, he looked like a unicorn in that. Good left hand, does things with it.

[Portiseyes]

So was that really Ingram that P Will was giving the serious business to? I know this is just a workout game but... that looked pretty borderline disrespectful from the 4 min mark on... after that dunk (where yeah PW looks to be pretty effortlessly getting head height to the rim) was Ingram getting sweat out of his eye or was he shaking his head like damn I’m getting cooked by this dude and this **** is going to end up on YouTube...

Good times. Golden State might be **** themselves.

...and that's Trae dishing to him too. Nice to see him looking right at home against other NBA lottery picks that have experience in the league already.. even young stars like Trae and Ingram.

More than looking right at home, I feel like I’m seeing a hint of malice when Ingram was guarding him from the 4 to 5min mark... like he flipped a switch and was going at him. I’m not making any serious comparisons off a workout vid but it’s great to see he’s showing that kind of attitude and confidence.

[drosEshe]

juz hope he can be in a Jason Tatum type player.. haha..


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[samwana]

For the last time, workouts don't mean s#$@. We have 29 games to evaluate his performance. And you can see his measurables and traits on game tape better than ever watching him workout one-on-none.

And because Kawhi succeeded doesn't add anything. Kawhi wasn't a secret type of guy the league just didn't understand. He made tremendous strides from a rookie to become what he is. There are Patrick Williams type guys every year, and they almost never work out.

It's just as pointless as drafting Xavier Tillman at #7 and then justify the reach by claiming you "may" have Draymond Green. So what?

Ok who should they have drafted?

I've already covered this.They ended up in a weird spot at 4. I would have:

1. Traded up to 2 using WCJ and taken Wiseman
2. Traded up to 3 using WCJ and taken Ball
3. Entertained any other trade that gets you Ball, Wiseman or Edwards
4. Traded Detroit for 7/16. Likely taken Hayes. I have no idea who I would have taken at 16, probably a wing (Green or Bey). Definitely would have looked into moving up into the top 12/13 for Kira/Hali (last part not exactly realistic)
5. Stay at 4 and take Hayes/Okoro/Deni/Hali/Toppin, most likely in that order

You would have done all this because it was all available to you.
AK wanted PW and took him at 4. I don't know if I like PW that much, but I like what AK did, identify who you want and don't care one bit what someone else thinks of who you should have taken because all mocks say another player is the best. He wanted PW and drafted him. In how this draft unfolded there was no other possibility than take him at 4. It was leaked probably through Detroit who wanted him badly as well.
We will see who was right or wrong, I'm happy AK didn't budge for whatever hype players got.

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[MrSparkle]

Are you kidding me? Lol - this dude showed every offensive move in the book in those scrimmages. Dinwiddie knows what’s up- he passed and watched him score at will on Ingram. Finishes with either hand inside, cross-over/stepback/fadeaway, 1-hand floaters/baby-hook, cross-court passes.

Edwards’ pro day looked like amateur hour compared to this, and both were practice videos.

Wow. I’m beginning to think this was a masterful job at hiding-the-prospect. Fact that these videos are creeping out after draft day. He had the private work out with Chicago. Bulls went through the motions with LaMelo, Wiseman, Edwards and everybody else while not really reporting any serious interest.

[johnnyvann840]

So was that really Ingram that P Will was giving the serious business to? I know this is just a workout game but... that looked pretty borderline disrespectful from the 4 min mark on... after that dunk (where yeah PW looks to be pretty effortlessly getting head height to the rim) was Ingram getting sweat out of his eye or was he shaking his head like damn I’m getting cooked by this dude and this **** is going to end up on YouTube...

Good times. Golden State might be **** themselves.

...and that's Trae dishing to him too. Nice to see him looking right at home against other NBA lottery picks that have experience in the league already.. even young stars like Trae and Ingram.

More than looking right at home, I feel like I’m seeing a hint of malice when Ingram was guarding him from the 4 to 5min mark... like he flipped a switch and was going at him. I’m not making any serious comparisons off a workout vid but it’s great to see he’s showing that kind of attitude and confidence.

Watching it again and he steals a Trae pass. Dinwiddie is the one doing most of the dishing to PW. But, yeah, he looks special.

[Indomitable]

I've already covered this.They ended up in a weird spot at 4. I would have:

1. Traded up to 2 using WCJ and taken Wiseman
2. Traded up to 3 using WCJ and taken Ball
3. Entertained any other trade that gets you Ball, Wiseman or Edwards
4. Traded Detroit for 7/16. Likely taken Hayes. I have no idea who I would have taken at 16, probably a wing (Green or Bey). Definitely would have looked into moving up into the top 12/13 for Kira/Hali (last part not exactly realistic)
5. Stay at 4 and take Hayes/Okoro/Deni/Hali/Toppin, most likely in that order

This is pathetic, you keep skirting the question. You keep throwing out these hypothetical scenarios while having zero information that these were ever a possibility, you weren't in the room, you don't know if they tried to trade up or down, from all indication nobody wanted to make a move in a weak draft.

WHO WOULD YOU HAVE TAKEN AT #4?? . I personally liked Hayes, but I can't say with any type of confidence that he will absolutely be a better NBA player than Williams. You don't get to choose the field and then claim you were a genius when one of over a dozen guys actually ends up panning out. Pick a guy and in 3-4 years we'll see if they end up being a better prospect than PWill.

Basically he has no real answer. He literally wants to say he is right.

[Indomitable]

Going by the scrimmage footage, Pat could lead the league in scoring and Spencer could lead the league in assists. Spencer was seemingly passing him to him constantly.

If only GarPax didn't throw Spencer away to keep the likes of Jerian Grant, Isiah Canaan and MCW, we could have them both.

I got dogged out about that situation. Boy I hated Garpax.

[StunnerKO]

[Bulls Fan 23]

I'm impressed with that footage against current NBA guys. Can't wait to watch him play this year.

[fleet]

Are you kidding me? Lol - this dude showed every offensive move in the book in those scrimmages. Dinwiddie knows what’s up- he passed and watched him score at will on Ingram. Finishes with either hand inside, cross-over/stepback/fadeaway, 1-hand floaters/baby-hook, cross-court passes.

Edwards’ pro day looked like amateur hour compared to this, and both were practice videos.

Wow. I’m beginning to think this was a masterful job at hiding-the-prospect. Fact that these videos are creeping out after draft day. He had the private work out with Chicago. Bulls went through the motions with LaMelo, Wiseman, Edwards and everybody else while not really reporting any serious interest.

Bet whoever made the films got them to the Bulls and other lotto teams (Big Guard U?). The agent maybe. He prob backed it all up in a private workout with Chicago, and they were like hey kid, we got you at #4. Bet it was his first or second workout if there were any others. LOL Detroit may have been the other workout. Williams made sure not to say who he was working out with. Heck even after the draft he wouldn't verify a Chicago workout. The promise seems real.

[johnnyvann840]

Are you kidding me? Lol - this dude showed every offensive move in the book in those scrimmages. Dinwiddie knows what’s up- he passed and watched him score at will on Ingram. Finishes with either hand inside, cross-over/stepback/fadeaway, 1-hand floaters/baby-hook, cross-court passes.

Edwards’ pro day looked like amateur hour compared to this, and both were practice videos.

Wow. I’m beginning to think this was a masterful job at hiding-the-prospect. Fact that these videos are creeping out after draft day. He had the private work out with Chicago. Bulls went through the motions with LaMelo, Wiseman, Edwards and everybody else while not really reporting any serious interest.

Bet whoever made the films got them to the Bulls and other lotto teams (Big Guard U?). The agent maybe. He prob backed it all up in a private workout with Chicago, and they were like hey kid, we got you at #4. Bet it was his first or second workout if there were any others. LOL Detroit may have been the other workout. Williams made sure not to say who he was working out with. Heck even after the draft he wouldn't verify a Chicago workout. The promise seems real.

The Guard Whisperer. Read the post just a couple back from StunnerKO. That is some high praise he throws at him. I'm pretty psyched about the pick right now. AK might have really hit home run here. I think this kid is going to shine brightly in the league. He seriously looks like a potential star to me and that trainer could very well be right- he might wind up the steal of this draft. Really glad we got him.