2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added

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@MadManLeaks: From Adam Spinella on intel that he’s hearing

“Eason is not impressing during the interview or film sessions of his meetings with teams. There’s a growing sense that his lack of feel is indicative of a fairly low basketball IQ.”


I'd still take him at 18

I knew there was something off about that guy, he just moved from my might be ok tier to my do not want tier.

That being said, he'll probably get drafted by the Bulls.

Cool.

If this is true then Tari Eason has a great chance to be available for us. I met plenty of people...PLENTY..who talk a great game, but when it's time to put up or shut up, with their actions, they don't deliver. I also met plenty of people, who don't do interviews well, but when it's time to deliver, they execute well.

Film sessions/interviews still do not mean much to me.

Dan Marino was straight up stupid in his Wonderlic test with his score of 16. I took that Wonderlic test and I scored in the high 20s (28-29) and Dan Marino is by far the Ultimate Master QB that I am. Lamar Jackson scored 16 on his Wonderlic and he's a NFL League MVP. Derrick Rose had a lot of "Ummmmmmm uhhhhhhhhh" in his interviews. Brett Favre didn't even know what a Nickel defense was. Young Michael Jordan had pronunciation probs with his words.

You know people, that's awesome, I know people too. Cool, right?

So do these Wonderlic tests have questions regarding sports and what to do in current situations attributed to the sport? I'm guessing they probably don't, so not sure about the relevancy as to why that makes him an awesome or awful QB.

Yup, Derrick was um'd and ah'd during postgame interviews, but he knew what to do on a basketball court

What has pronunciation got to do with Bball IQ? Is that why MJ slipped to 3? Could he not pronounce basketball? Makes sense now..

Weirdly enough I am entitled to my own opinion, is my opinion wrong? Yeah it could be and if that's the case I'll own up to it.

Heck I wanted DaJuan Blair over both James Johnson and Taj Gibson.

[The Box Office]

I knew there was something off about that guy, he just moved from my might be ok tier to my do not want tier.

That being said, he'll probably get drafted by the Bulls.

Cool.

If this is true then Tari Eason has a great chance to be available for us. I met plenty of people...PLENTY..who talk a great game, but when it's time to put up or shut up, with their actions, they don't deliver. I also met plenty of people, who don't do interviews well, but when it's time to deliver, they execute well.

Film sessions/interviews still do not mean much to me.

Dan Marino was straight up stupid in his Wonderlic test with his score of 16. I took that Wonderlic test and I scored in the high 20s (28-29) and Dan Marino is by far the Ultimate Master QB that I am. Lamar Jackson scored 16 on his Wonderlic and he's a NFL League MVP. Derrick Rose had a lot of "Ummmmmmm uhhhhhhhhh" in his interviews. Brett Favre didn't even know what a Nickel defense was. Young Michael Jordan had pronunciation probs with his words.

You know people, that's awesome, I know people too. Cool, right?

So do these Wonderlic tests have questions regarding sports and what to do in current situations attributed to the sport? I'm guessing they probably don't, so not sure about the relevancy as to why that makes him an awesome or awful QB.

Yup, Derrick was um'd and ah'd during postgame interviews, but he knew what to do on a basketball court

What has pronunciation got to do with Bball IQ? Is that why MJ slipped to 3? Could he not pronounce basketball? Makes sense now..

Weirdly enough I am entitled to my own opinion, is my opinion wrong? Yeah it could be and if that's the case I'll own up to it.

Heck I wanted DaJuan Blair over both James Johnson and Taj Gibson.

Are you attacking me?

I wrote that "Film sessions/interviews still do not mean much to me."

It's all about the in-game footage/results, improvements, and their practice regimen. Not these glorified work outs and interviews.

Since you brought up James Johnson, he sucked anyway. What a waste of a pick. DaJuan Blair was more productive.

[PrimzyBulls81]

I knew there was something off about that guy, he just moved from my might be ok tier to my do not want tier.

That being said, he'll probably get drafted by the Bulls.

Cool.

If this is true then Tari Eason has a great chance to be available for us. I met plenty of people...PLENTY..who talk a great game, but when it's time to put up or shut up, with their actions, they don't deliver. I also met plenty of people, who don't do interviews well, but when it's time to deliver, they execute well.

Film sessions/interviews still do not mean much to me.

Dan Marino was straight up stupid in his Wonderlic test with his score of 16. I took that Wonderlic test and I scored in the high 20s (28-29) and Dan Marino is by far the Ultimate Master QB that I am. Lamar Jackson scored 16 on his Wonderlic and he's a NFL League MVP. Derrick Rose had a lot of "Ummmmmmm uhhhhhhhhh" in his interviews. Brett Favre didn't even know what a Nickel defense was. Young Michael Jordan had pronunciation probs with his words.

You know people, that's awesome, I know people too. Cool, right?

So do these Wonderlic tests have questions regarding sports and what to do in current situations attributed to the sport? I'm guessing they probably don't, so not sure about the relevancy as to why that makes him an awesome or awful QB.

Yup, Derrick was um'd and ah'd during postgame interviews, but he knew what to do on a basketball court

What has pronunciation got to do with Bball IQ? Is that why MJ slipped to 3? Could he not pronounce basketball? Makes sense now..

Weirdly enough I am entitled to my own opinion, is my opinion wrong? Yeah it could be and if that's the case I'll own up to it.

Heck I wanted DaJuan Blair over both James Johnson and Taj Gibson.

You totally missunderstood his post...

[Muzbar]

Cool.

If this is true then Tari Eason has a great chance to be available for us. I met plenty of people...PLENTY..who talk a great game, but when it's time to put up or shut up, with their actions, they don't deliver. I also met plenty of people, who don't do interviews well, but when it's time to deliver, they execute well.

Film sessions/interviews still do not mean much to me.

Dan Marino was straight up stupid in his Wonderlic test with his score of 16. I took that Wonderlic test and I scored in the high 20s (28-29) and Dan Marino is by far the Ultimate Master QB that I am. Lamar Jackson scored 16 on his Wonderlic and he's a NFL League MVP. Derrick Rose had a lot of "Ummmmmmm uhhhhhhhhh" in his interviews. Brett Favre didn't even know what a Nickel defense was. Young Michael Jordan had pronunciation probs with his words.

You know people, that's awesome, I know people too. Cool, right?

So do these Wonderlic tests have questions regarding sports and what to do in current situations attributed to the sport? I'm guessing they probably don't, so not sure about the relevancy as to why that makes him an awesome or awful QB.

Yup, Derrick was um'd and ah'd during postgame interviews, but he knew what to do on a basketball court

What has pronunciation got to do with Bball IQ? Is that why MJ slipped to 3? Could he not pronounce basketball? Makes sense now..

Weirdly enough I am entitled to my own opinion, is my opinion wrong? Yeah it could be and if that's the case I'll own up to it.

Heck I wanted DaJuan Blair over both James Johnson and Taj Gibson.

Are you attacking me?

I wrote that "Film sessions/interviews still do not mean much to me."

It's all about the in-game footage/results, improvements, and their practice regimen. Not these glorified work outs and interviews.

Since you brought up James Johnson, he sucked anyway. What a waste of a pick. DaJuan Blair was more productive.

Attacking you? Where did I attack you? If anything I defended myself and my opinion.

I'm aware of what you wrote, just because interviews and workouts at the combine/pro days don't mean much to you, doesn't mean they don't mean anything, I respect your opinion that they don't mean anything to you, just don't agree with your opinion.

Maybe I came across a tad too aggressive, that was not my intention but your "Cool" came across kinda sarcastic.

100% it's about in game footage etc, but there is still stock to put into interviews and workouts.

Yep James Johnson was a waste of a pick but he did have a longer career than Blair.

Again, wasn't attacking or trying to offend, just defending my opinion.

[Muzbar]

Cool.

If this is true then Tari Eason has a great chance to be available for us. I met plenty of people...PLENTY..who talk a great game, but when it's time to put up or shut up, with their actions, they don't deliver. I also met plenty of people, who don't do interviews well, but when it's time to deliver, they execute well.

Film sessions/interviews still do not mean much to me.

Dan Marino was straight up stupid in his Wonderlic test with his score of 16. I took that Wonderlic test and I scored in the high 20s (28-29) and Dan Marino is by far the Ultimate Master QB that I am. Lamar Jackson scored 16 on his Wonderlic and he's a NFL League MVP. Derrick Rose had a lot of "Ummmmmmm uhhhhhhhhh" in his interviews. Brett Favre didn't even know what a Nickel defense was. Young Michael Jordan had pronunciation probs with his words.

You know people, that's awesome, I know people too. Cool, right?

So do these Wonderlic tests have questions regarding sports and what to do in current situations attributed to the sport? I'm guessing they probably don't, so not sure about the relevancy as to why that makes him an awesome or awful QB.

Yup, Derrick was um'd and ah'd during postgame interviews, but he knew what to do on a basketball court

What has pronunciation got to do with Bball IQ? Is that why MJ slipped to 3? Could he not pronounce basketball? Makes sense now..

Weirdly enough I am entitled to my own opinion, is my opinion wrong? Yeah it could be and if that's the case I'll own up to it.

Heck I wanted DaJuan Blair over both James Johnson and Taj Gibson.

You totally missunderstood his post...

Misunderstood? No. Misinterpreted? Maybe.

[Dresden]

I've seen so many different players mocked for the Bulls by now. I would be satisfied with almost anyone that I've seen going to them. I see at least 22-24 players in this draft that could be good for us. The draft is such a crap shoot anyway- it's so hard to tell how a player with 1 year of college experience is going to perform in the nba. Anyone who thinks they have it figured out is fooling themselves. There's a lot of hindsight later on, saying "we should have known this guy would bust/be great", but in fact if there was a reliable way to determine that, teams wouldn't make all the mistakes they make in the draft each year. You can't go by body type, by college numbers, by advanced stats, by IQ or intangibles, by what school they went to, by measurables- none of these things by themselves are consistently reliable guides to who will make it and who won't.

So I won't get too excited or too disappointed by whoever the Bulls take at 18. Jimmy Butler was about the most blah pick you could find at #30, and look how he turned out. Whereas Coby White, Wendell Carter, Lauri, were all top 7 picks, and none of them have been all that good.

[The Box Office]

John Paxson hit a grand slam by getting Jimmy Butler. Scottie Pippen was the only one, who stated for the entire world, that Jimmy Butler has All Star potential. A lot of people here and on the General Board laughed and dismissed it.

I didn't. I wasn't laughing.

I was a lurker back then and I knew that Jimmy Butler had the tools to become a good player. He was already a tough grinder on defense, a gym rat, and he has handles. The rest of his game on offense will emerge with time.

That's all I knew about him.

I'm seeing a similar baseline with Tari Eason. If we can't get Tari, I gots to move on and check out the guy who AKME selected.

EDIT: I still have Tari Eason as my number 2 pick in this draft. I always did. Nothing changed.

Looking back at the 2011 Draft, my Top 3 re-draft goes like this:
1) Kawhi Leonard
2) Jimmy Butler
3) Klay Thompson

[Muzbar]

John Paxson hit a grand slam by getting Jimmy Butler. Scottie Pippen was the only one, who stated for the entire world, that Jimmy Butler has All Star potential. A lot of people here and on the General Board laughed and dismissed it.

I didn't. I wasn't laughing.

I was a lurker back then and I knew that Jimmy Butler had the tools to become a good player. He was already a tough grinder on defense, a gym rat, and he has handles. The rest of his game on offense will emerge with time.

That's all I knew about him.

I'm seeing a similar baseline with Tari Eason. If we can't get Tari, I gots to move on and check out the guy who AKME selected.

EDIT: I still have Tari Eason as my number 2 pick in this draft. I always did. Nothing changed.

Looking back at the 2011 Draft, my Top 3 re-draft goes like this:
1) Kawhi Leonard
2) Jimmy Butler
3) Klay Thompson

I hope you're right about Eason and he does great things for the Bulls, but after watching tape I'm not getting the hype, yeah he's athletic, but he doesn't blow me away.

But I've rarely been right when it comes to draft choices (although I wanted to stay far away from Dougie and Valentine...).

Out of curiosity, who do you have first?

[Dresden]

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I'm starting to come around on Duren. I was down on after reading about him on draftnet that he may lack motivation and focus and have a low BBIQ. But watching tape on him, I''m not sure I wouldn't prefer him over Mark Williams. He seems more agile, stronger, quicker, while having almost as much reach as Williams. I think there's more potential for him to develop offensively than Williams. In short, I think he would check a lot of boxes for us, even though right now he seems like he would only be making an impact on the D end. Although he's a great lob target, and his size and strength would make him a formidable off. rebounder as well. I just like the way he moves on the court, as opposed to Williams, who seems a bit giraffe like. In truth I'd be fine with either. It seems that between Sochan, Eason, Williams and Duren, one of them is very likely to be there for us, which would give us either a 4 or a 5 who can help address our needs on D and in the paint.

[Clint Eastwood]

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I'm starting to come around on Duren. I was down on after reading about him on draftnet that he may lack motivation and focus and have a low BBIQ. But watching tape on him, I''m not sure I wouldn't prefer him over Mark Williams. He seems more agile, stronger, quicker, while having almost as much reach as Williams. I think there's more potential for him to develop offensively than Williams. In short, I think he would check a lot of boxes for us, even though right now he seems like he would only be making an impact on the D end. Although he's a great lob target, and his size and strength would make him a formidable off. rebounder as well. I just like the way he moves on the court, as opposed to Williams, who seems a bit giraffe like. In truth I'd be fine with either. It seems that between Sochan, Eason, Williams and Duren, one of them is very likely to be there for us, which would give us either a 4 or a 5 who can help address our needs on D and in the paint.

I like how Duren moves and his body and game will translate to stardom. However, cant predict attitude, I haven’t read about him and his motivation/focus. If he gets those things in order, he is the second best player in this draft and regardless i would be thrilled to take the chance if he miraculously fell. Unfortunately, if he falls to 18 with that tape, there must be something so wrong in between his ears that he is undraftable. Otherwise, you take him and laugh all the way to the finals.

[Jimmy Forums]

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I'm starting to come around on Duren. I was down on after reading about him on draftnet that he may lack motivation and focus and have a low BBIQ. But watching tape on him, I''m not sure I wouldn't prefer him over Mark Williams. He seems more agile, stronger, quicker, while having almost as much reach as Williams. I think there's more potential for him to develop offensively than Williams. In short, I think he would check a lot of boxes for us, even though right now he seems like he would only be making an impact on the D end. Although he's a great lob target, and his size and strength would make him a formidable off. rebounder as well. I just like the way he moves on the court, as opposed to Williams, who seems a bit giraffe like. In truth I'd be fine with either. It seems that between Sochan, Eason, Williams and Duren, one of them is very likely to be there for us, which would give us either a 4 or a 5 who can help address our needs on D and in the paint.

I like how Duren moves and his body and game will translate to stardom. However, cant predict attitude, I haven’t read about him and his motivation/focus. If he gets those things in order, he is the second best player in this draft and regardless i would be thrilled to take the chance if he miraculously fell. Unfortunately, if he falls to 18 with that tape, there must be something so wrong in between his ears that he is undraftable. Otherwise, you take him and laugh all the way to the finals.

As has been mentioned, we here on the board have no way of gauging his mentality and work ethic, but his physical tools give him everything he needs to be that DPOY-caliber guy we need down low. And he can run too, so that's good. There are clips of him out there showing that he has a decent *looking* midrange jumper, so at the very least I expect him to be able to hit an open corner three. I would be ecstatic if we were able to get him, but I'm almost certain some other team before us will see this potential.

Sochan and Duren are the guys I want, but we'd probably need to move up. Eason and Williams are another tier below IMO but still would be good picks. Naturally, we will wind up with Liddell.

[Dresden]

I'm starting to come around on Duren. I was down on after reading about him on draftnet that he may lack motivation and focus and have a low BBIQ. But watching tape on him, I''m not sure I wouldn't prefer him over Mark Williams. He seems more agile, stronger, quicker, while having almost as much reach as Williams. I think there's more potential for him to develop offensively than Williams. In short, I think he would check a lot of boxes for us, even though right now he seems like he would only be making an impact on the D end. Although he's a great lob target, and his size and strength would make him a formidable off. rebounder as well. I just like the way he moves on the court, as opposed to Williams, who seems a bit giraffe like. In truth I'd be fine with either. It seems that between Sochan, Eason, Williams and Duren, one of them is very likely to be there for us, which would give us either a 4 or a 5 who can help address our needs on D and in the paint.

I like how Duren moves and his body and game will translate to stardom. However, cant predict attitude, I haven’t read about him and his motivation/focus. If he gets those things in order, he is the second best player in this draft and regardless i would be thrilled to take the chance if he miraculously fell. Unfortunately, if he falls to 18 with that tape, there must be something so wrong in between his ears that he is undraftable. Otherwise, you take him and laugh all the way to the finals.

As has been mentioned, we here on the board have no way of gauging his mentality and work ethic, but his physical tools give him everything he needs to be that DPOY-caliber guy we need down low. And he can run too, so that's good. There are clips of him out there showing that he has a decent *looking* midrange jumper, so at the very least I expect him to be able to hit an open corner three. I would be ecstatic if we were able to get him, but I'm almost certain some other team before us will see this potential.

Sochan and Duren are the guys I want, but we'd probably need to move up. Eason and Williams are another tier below IMO but still would be good picks. Naturally, we will wind up with Liddell.

I'm not so sure about him being able to hit a corner 3. His FT% is 62%, so he will also be a liability late in games at the ft line if he cant improve on that. I did see him making some nifty passes in that tape though, so he's got some ability to find the open man, which is so important for a big man.

Liddell is not to be dismissed, IMO. He can score, he can defend, he's strong and has an nba ready body, he's got a great attitude, a great vertical. I think he'll be a very useful player, and he won't need a lot of development time.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

I'm starting to come around on Duren. I was down on after reading about him on draftnet that he may lack motivation and focus and have a low BBIQ. But watching tape on him, I''m not sure I wouldn't prefer him over Mark Williams. He seems more agile, stronger, quicker, while having almost as much reach as Williams. I think there's more potential for him to develop offensively than Williams. In short, I think he would check a lot of boxes for us, even though right now he seems like he would only be making an impact on the D end. Although he's a great lob target, and his size and strength would make him a formidable off. rebounder as well. I just like the way he moves on the court, as opposed to Williams, who seems a bit giraffe like. In truth I'd be fine with either. It seems that between Sochan, Eason, Williams and Duren, one of them is very likely to be there for us, which would give us either a 4 or a 5 who can help address our needs on D and in the paint.

I like how Duren moves and his body and game will translate to stardom. However, cant predict attitude, I haven’t read about him and his motivation/focus. If he gets those things in order, he is the second best player in this draft and regardless i would be thrilled to take the chance if he miraculously fell. Unfortunately, if he falls to 18 with that tape, there must be something so wrong in between his ears that he is undraftable. Otherwise, you take him and laugh all the way to the finals.

As has been mentioned, we here on the board have no way of gauging his mentality and work ethic, but his physical tools give him everything he needs to be that DPOY-caliber guy we need down low. And he can run too, so that's good. There are clips of him out there showing that he has a decent *looking* midrange jumper, so at the very least I expect him to be able to hit an open corner three. I would be ecstatic if we were able to get him, but I'm almost certain some other team before us will see this potential.

Sochan and Duren are the guys I want, but we'd probably need to move up. Eason and Williams are another tier below IMO but still would be good picks. Naturally, we will wind up with Liddell.

Eason, Williams, Duren are my top 3 in that order, Sochan is a bit lower. I don't think those 1st three will be available, but that may be the pessimistic fan in me.

Duren and Williams are interesting to me because they do represent a traditional center role, and a bit of a dying breed. I could see them dropping for that reason alone. They don't have offensive games that are fleshed out right now, and they will clog the paint. I think front offices see what Boston is doing, what Milwaukee is doing, what Philly is doing, where the vast majority of those bigs can shoot the 3 ball, and see value in that. It would not shock me if one of Duren or Mark Williams is there.

That being said, Charlotte really needs a center and has two picks. Portland really needs defense, as do some other teams. Will be really interesting to see what direction these teams go.

[drosestruts]

I'm starting to have more and more interest in drafting someone who would be eligible to be draft and stashed. No one at 18 should (key word) be cracking our rotation if our intention is to be competitive, and we're healthy.

Nikola Jovic is often mocked in our range, and I've never been too impressed. This tweet however caught my eye:

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If that doesn't load for you, pretty much points to his stats from U-19 games which were 19, 11, and 11. He dominated against his peers. In the ABA he's playing against adults.

College players get the benefit of playing against others their own age. When Jovic got that chance he looked real real good.

[Dresden]

I'm starting to have more and more interest in drafting someone who would be eligible to be draft and stashed. No one at 18 should (key word) be cracking our rotation if our intention is to be competitive, and we're healthy.

Nikola Jovic is often mocked in our range, and I've never been too impressed. This tweet however caught my eye:

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If that doesn't load for you, pretty much points to his stats from U-19 games which were 19, 11, and 11. He dominated against his peers. In the ABA he's playing against adults.

College players get the benefit of playing against others their own age. When Jovic got that chance he looked real real good.

I somewhat disagree that a player we pick at 18 should not be able to crack our rotation. Our bench stunk to high heaven last season. I see no reason why a lot of these players shouldn't get regular playing time next year. Esp. guys like EJ Liddell, who are not one and done's.

[Jvaughn]

So do these Wonderlic tests have questions regarding sports and what to do in current situations attributed to the sport? I'm guessing they probably don't, so not sure about the relevancy as to why that makes him an awesome or awful QB.

Yup, Derrick was um'd and ah'd during postgame interviews, but he knew what to do on a basketball court

That's not how the interviews and psychological test are done. Since you brought up Rose, I'll try to convey what the goal is. Rose wasn't the most eloquent speaker, but the interview process was meant to draw out what type of person he was, his motivations, and his understanding of the game.

When the Bulls were leaning towards drafting Beasley #1, they brought in both he and Rose for interviews. This was how that went:

During the session with Beasley, there were a couple occasions in which (one of) his (two) cell phones went off. Believe it or not, he answered the calls!

New head coach Vinny Del Negro advised him that he was meeting with the owner and that, at that time, there couldn’t be too many things more important than listening to what Mr. Reinsdorf had to say and answering whatever questions the people at the meeting had of him. When Reinsdorf posed the question, “What about college basketball bothered you most?” Beasley contemplated for a moment and said, “When you go on the road and the referees make bad calls.”

When it was Rose’s turn in front of the brass, he sat up straight and was totally focused. He had a thorough grasp of the magnitude of the encounter. He put his ego aside. Consider this is a guy who won back-to-back state titles in high school and went 38-2 in his only season in college, dropping the national championship game in overtime. His answer speaks for the kind of guy Derrick Rose is and why he’s destined for (even more) greatness. What was his response to Reinsdorf’s question, “What about college basketball bothered you most?”

“Losing.”

The Bulls said this was what the determining factor for them was. And we see how that worked out.

[drosestruts]

I'm starting to have more and more interest in drafting someone who would be eligible to be draft and stashed. No one at 18 should (key word) be cracking our rotation if our intention is to be competitive, and we're healthy.

Nikola Jovic is often mocked in our range, and I've never been too impressed. This tweet however caught my eye:

Read on Twitter

If that doesn't load for you, pretty much points to his stats from U-19 games which were 19, 11, and 11. He dominated against his peers. In the ABA he's playing against adults.

College players get the benefit of playing against others their own age. When Jovic got that chance he looked real real good.

I somewhat disagree that a player we pick at 18 should not be able to crack our rotation. Our bench stunk to high heaven last season. I see no reason why a lot of these players shouldn't get regular playing time next year. Esp. guys like EJ Liddell, who are not one and done's.

I mean, I'd hope we'd address our weak bench through free agency and/or trades.

If someone at 18 earns minutes, sure. But I don't think we should overlook holes on our roster and just trust a rookie to fill them in.

To me, that's what free agency is for. The draft is your opportunity to find an impact player. I don't like a lot of free agent bigs this year, but I bet all of them do more next year than someone drafted at 18.

I'll use Liddell as an example since you brought him up. The future may be bright for Liddell, but for next year - I'd rather have Thad young, Boucher, Blake Griffin, Joe Ingles, Derrick Jones Jr, Kyle Anderson or a slew of others.

Again if Lidell beats out any of those guys for theoretical minutes on this theoretical team, cool. But it wouldn't be my expectation


Back to Jovic. If he were playing in college instead of the ABA - is he putting up 19, 11, and 11 numbers like he did in the U-19's? If so, how high would people have him on their boards?

[MrSparkle]

So do these Wonderlic tests have questions regarding sports and what to do in current situations attributed to the sport? I'm guessing they probably don't, so not sure about the relevancy as to why that makes him an awesome or awful QB.

Yup, Derrick was um'd and ah'd during postgame interviews, but he knew what to do on a basketball court

That's not how the interviews and psychological test are done. Since you brought up Rose, I'll try to convey what the goal is. Rose wasn't the most eloquent speaker, but the interview process was meant to draw out what type of person he was, his motivations, and his understanding of the game.

When the Bulls were leaning towards drafting Beasley #1, they brought in both he and Rose for interviews. This was how that went:

During the session with Beasley, there were a couple occasions in which (one of) his (two) cell phones went off. Believe it or not, he answered the calls!

New head coach Vinny Del Negro advised him that he was meeting with the owner and that, at that time, there couldn’t be too many things more important than listening to what Mr. Reinsdorf had to say and answering whatever questions the people at the meeting had of him. When Reinsdorf posed the question, “What about college basketball bothered you most?” Beasley contemplated for a moment and said, “When you go on the road and the referees make bad calls.”

When it was Rose’s turn in front of the brass, he sat up straight and was totally focused. He had a thorough grasp of the magnitude of the encounter. He put his ego aside. Consider this is a guy who won back-to-back state titles in high school and went 38-2 in his only season in college, dropping the national championship game in overtime. His answer speaks for the kind of guy Derrick Rose is and why he’s destined for (even more) greatness. What was his response to Reinsdorf’s question, “What about college basketball bothered you most?”

“Losing.”

The Bulls said this was what the determining factor for them was. And we see how that worked out.

Oh Beasley...

[Muzbar]

So do these Wonderlic tests have questions regarding sports and what to do in current situations attributed to the sport? I'm guessing they probably don't, so not sure about the relevancy as to why that makes him an awesome or awful QB.

Yup, Derrick was um'd and ah'd during postgame interviews, but he knew what to do on a basketball court

That's not how the interviews and psychological test are done. Since you brought up Rose, I'll try to convey what the goal is. Rose wasn't the most eloquent speaker, but the interview process was meant to draw out what type of person he was, his motivations, and his understanding of the game.

When the Bulls were leaning towards drafting Beasley #1, they brought in both he and Rose for interviews. This was how that went:

During the session with Beasley, there were a couple occasions in which (one of) his (two) cell phones went off. Believe it or not, he answered the calls!

New head coach Vinny Del Negro advised him that he was meeting with the owner and that, at that time, there couldn’t be too many things more important than listening to what Mr. Reinsdorf had to say and answering whatever questions the people at the meeting had of him. When Reinsdorf posed the question, “What about college basketball bothered you most?” Beasley contemplated for a moment and said, “When you go on the road and the referees make bad calls.”

When it was Rose’s turn in front of the brass, he sat up straight and was totally focused. He had a thorough grasp of the magnitude of the encounter. He put his ego aside. Consider this is a guy who won back-to-back state titles in high school and went 38-2 in his only season in college, dropping the national championship game in overtime. His answer speaks for the kind of guy Derrick Rose is and why he’s destined for (even more) greatness. What was his response to Reinsdorf’s question, “What about college basketball bothered you most?”

“Losing.”

The Bulls said this was what the determining factor for them was. And we see how that worked out.

First of all, I didn't bring up Rose, the poster I quoted did, which you conveniently left out.

Secondly, what you said/quoted was entirely my point. The previous poster brought up how Rose uhhhh and ummmm but was an MVP, my point was that had nothing to do with the combine questioning and clearly he understood the game despite being unable to put a sentence together without sounding super nervous.

I understand why they do these interviews at the combine, the original poster mentioned how they didn't put any stock into the interviews and brought up Jordan's pronunciation issues and Rose's lack of confidence in interviews skills which I questioned the relevancy to the combine interviews.

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To interject after reading all this, the point is that is if Eason is doing poorly in interviews, it’s more to do with his attitude or BBIQ than with his verbal skills. That says red flag to me. Skills only take you so far. BB smarts and attitude are even more important.