Around The NBA: 2019-20 RESTART

Jcool0 · Post #921 » by **Jcool0** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:20 pm

If Giannis is out this game is over.

Jcool0 · Post #922 » by **Jcool0** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:42 pm

damn

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Chi town · Post #923 » by **Chi town** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:56 pm

Heat sweep

MrSparkle · Post #924 » by **MrSparkle** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 9:06 pm

Mech Engineer wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:The one thing I do notice in Miami, is that they are still in cap hell.

They made miracles in the offseason and everyone has panned out with their young guys.

But at the same time, they dont have much time or wiggle room with this group. They have to decide what happens to Dragic, Derrick Jones Jr, Crowder etc. It could be a completely different group next year.

I think people are suggesting, they will try and consolidate all their young talent and make an Anthony Davis type deal for a disgruntled star.

Im sure they can get good return on a BAM, Nunn, Herro or Robinson for a superstar player. We just know they cant pay everyone.

This team has like 1 season left before major decisions have to be made.

Cap hell is not a big problem as it made out to be. Flexibility which GarPax kept talking about didn't get us anywhere. Look at Houston. ..they always have been in cap hell and somehow keep making trades. You can dump players and make cap space. It is one of the most overrated problems of an NBA franchise.

Once a GM stops overating the impact of draft picks...cap space can be manipulated by giving up picks.

And, you can always find late bloomers instead of developing your own picks. It's just a sentimental concept from the old NBA days.

Yep. James Johnson, Dion Waiters, Bosh’s medical-retirement salary... and somehow the Heat still had 4 better seasons than Chicago, along with a better present and future. Not to mention Whiteside got a max.

I’m not saying to become the Billy King Nets or 05 Knicks, but you literally replenish those salaries at the start of the next season. Of course if you sign Mozgov and Deng to massive 4y deals, you will regret it.. but it’s just a matter of signing players with upside, rather than paying for their decline.

Chi town · Post #925 » by **Chi town** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 9:09 pm

MrSparkle wrote:
Mech Engineer wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:The one thing I do notice in Miami, is that they are still in cap hell.

They made miracles in the offseason and everyone has panned out with their young guys.

But at the same time, they dont have much time or wiggle room with this group. They have to decide what happens to Dragic, Derrick Jones Jr, Crowder etc. It could be a completely different group next year.

I think people are suggesting, they will try and consolidate all their young talent and make an Anthony Davis type deal for a disgruntled star.

Im sure they can get good return on a BAM, Nunn, Herro or Robinson for a superstar player. We just know they cant pay everyone.

This team has like 1 season left before major decisions have to be made.

Cap hell is not a big problem as it made out to be. Flexibility which GarPax kept talking about didn't get us anywhere. Look at Houston. ..they always have been in cap hell and somehow keep making trades. You can dump players and make cap space. It is one of the most overrated problems of an NBA franchise.

Once a GM stops overating the impact of draft picks...cap space can be manipulated by giving up picks.

And, you can always find late bloomers instead of developing your own picks. It's just a sentimental concept from the old NBA days.

Yep. James Johnson, Dion Waiters, Bosh’s medical-retirement salary... and somehow the Heat still had 4 better seasons than Chicago, along with a better present and future. Not to mention Whiteside got a max.

I’m not saying to become the Billy King Nets or 05 Knicks, but you literally replenish those salaries at the start of the next season. Of course if you sign Mozgov and Deng to massive 4y deals, you will regret it.. but it’s just a matter of signing players with upside, rather than paying for their decline.

Exactly. Players that don’t get injured all the time too.

Post #926 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 10:23 pm

ok Middleton i see you

Post #927 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 10:27 pm

Bucks earned some respect back

MrFortune3 · Post #928 » by **MrFortune3** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 10:51 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:ok Middleton i see you

He's got to stay aggressive. He's a damn good player and they need him at full capacity to win.

Dresden · Post #929 » by **Dresden** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:07 pm

Kudos to the Bucks. When Dante missed that FT I thought for sure MIA wins in OT, but they should a lot of heart not giving up with Giannis went down.

kodo · Post #930 » by **kodo** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 12:20 am

It's too bad ratings are down, because these have been some amazing playoffs already. Winning an elimination game in OT without the MVP sounds like a movie script.

Can Giannis come back with a high ankle sprain? Those are pretty nasty.

PaKii94 · Post #931 » by **PaKii94** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 12:40 am

kodo wrote:It's too bad ratings are down, because these have been some amazing playoffs already. Winning an elimination game in OT without the MVP sounds like a movie script.

Can Giannis come back with a high ankle sprain? Those are pretty nasty.

In 2 days? Idk man. High ankle sprains take forever to get right and are real easy to retweak.

MrFortune3 · Post #932 » by **MrFortune3** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 12:55 am

kodo wrote:It's too bad ratings are down, because these have been some amazing playoffs already. Winning an elimination game in OT without the MVP sounds like a movie script.

Can Giannis come back with a high ankle sprain? Those are pretty nasty.

The ratings have been pretty solid since the Rockets - OKC game 7.

Bullflip · Post #933 » by **Bullflip** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 1:12 am

Having a big is useless unless they have a good post game and can keep up with the 3 point shooters on the other team. Watching the Lakers and Rockets now, and there are hardly any bigs on the court. Maybe only Markieff Morris but he can shoot a 3.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #934 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 1:18 am

Good God Westbrook is so bad. It’s painful to watch this dude. Do they really not have another guy they can play instead? 4 on 5 might be better.

kodo · Post #935 » by **kodo** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 1:33 am

Bullflip wrote:Having a big is useless unless they have a good post game and can keep up with the 3 point shooters on the other team. Watching the Lakers and Rockets now, and there are hardly any bigs on the court. Maybe only Markieff Morris but he can shoot a 3.

LA is playing Kuzma at center, or maybe Markieff who can tell these days.

Mech Engineer · Post #936 » by **Mech Engineer** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 2:42 am

It's tough to tell who has a worse jumpshot....Rondo or Westbrook. Theae guys are tough to watch in today's league.

MrFortune3 · Post #937 » by **MrFortune3** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 2:45 am

Bullflip wrote:Having a big is useless unless they have a good post game and can keep up with the 3 point shooters on the other team. Watching the Lakers and Rockets now, and there are hardly any bigs on the court. Maybe only Markieff Morris but he can shoot a 3.

Having the big isn't the issue, it's roster balance. The Lakers have nothing outside of James and Davis and Davis has not dominated in this series.

MrFortune3 · Post #938 » by **MrFortune3** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 2:50 am

Mech Engineer wrote:It's tough to tell who has a worse jumpshot....Rondo or Westbrook. Theae guys are tough to watch in today's league.

Westbrook's jumper isn't the issue. It's that he shoots every damn thing. He has no shot selection. He just takes the shot.

ImSlower · Post #939 » by **ImSlower** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 3:04 am

Westbrook is such a detriment to his team. He still has all the killer instinct in the world, but he's just not good enough anymore to play hero ball.

dice · Post #940 » by **dice** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 3:11 am

MrFortune3 wrote:
Bullflip wrote:Having a big is useless unless they have a good post game and can keep up with the 3 point shooters on the other team. Watching the Lakers and Rockets now, and there are hardly any bigs on the court. Maybe only Markieff Morris but he can shoot a 3.

Having the big isn't the issue, it's roster balance. The Lakers have nothing outside of James and Davis and Davis has not dominated in this series.

amazing to say that a 26/9 guy averaging an efficient 30/12 isn't being dominant, but they probably should be getting a bit more out of him from a volume points perspective. they should be getting him the ball regularly. it's not like he's a black hole. he can capably find the open man if doubled