Way too early NBA draft thread 2021

[The Box Office]

These comparisons are lame. No offense. Cade plays nothing like Brandon Roy. He doesn't even move around the court like him. Cade plays like Cade. Nothing more. I bet a lot of you guys, who are jockeying for Cade, are the same ones who pushed Chicago Bulls RealGM greatest hits such as:



(shouts in Vince McMahon's booming voice)

- Obi Toppin
- Darius Garland
- Michael Porter Jr.
- Deni! Deni! Deni!....and more Deni Avdija...because he loves the Bulls.
- Cam Reddish
- Spencer Hawes
- Believed that Thabo Sefolosha is the next Scottie Pippen!
- Believes that Lauri Markkanen changes the story whenever he steps on the court.
- Doug McDermott
- Nikooooooooooooo Mirotic
- Taj Gibson could be the next Kevin Garnett.

[StunnerKO]

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[MrSparkle]

These comparisons are lame. No offense. Cade plays nothing like Brandon Roy. He doesn't even move around the court like him. Cade plays like Cade. Nothing more. I bet a lot of you guys, who are jockeying for Cade, are the same ones who pushed Chicago Bulls RealGM greatest hits such as:



(shouts in Vince McMahon's booming voice)

- Obi Toppin
- Darius Garland
- Michael Porter Jr.
- Deni! Deni! Deni!....and more Deni Avdija...because he loves the Bulls.
- Cam Reddish
- Spencer Hawes
- Believed that Thabo Sefolosha is the next Scottie Pippen!
- Believes that Lauri Markkanen changes the story whenever he steps on the court.
- Doug McDermott
- Nikooooooooooooo Mirotic
- Taj Gibson could be the next Kevin Garnett.

After seeing Luka and LaMelo come into the NBA and translate effortlessly as PnR assassins, I'm having a hard time doubting Cade. Facts are: he drew double/triple-teams in college, could score from any spot and direction, and while he's not as elite a passer, he's still very skilled. Coupled with solid defensive instincts and multi-position versatility, I'm having a really hard time seeing him bust. In fact, the low sentiment on him just cause he lost early in the bracket is starting to remind me of the exact same way doubts started creeping up on Luka (less-so) and LaMelo (more-so). Just feels like Cade is somewhere in-between these guys.

[Leslie Forman]

So many wing prospects disappoint because they simply don't have high enough dribbling/passing/IQ. Wiggins, Barnes, Jackson, McLemore, etc.

If you believe in Cade's IQ, ballhandling, and shooting, forget about everything else. Athleticism? Get outta here. A couple of 7-11 employees are currently MVP contenders. Skills and IQ are what matter.

[CoreyVillains]

A little Jalen Green scouting break down. Really impressed me with his play in the bubble.

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[Wingy]

I think I’ve seen the wrong Cade games. He’s obviously a talent, but nothing really jumps out at me when I’ve seen him play.

But again, I’ve only seen him play 3-4 times.

When I watch Mobley, for example, it’s like he’s playing with a spotlight on him the whole time, he stands out so much. I have Mobley at #1 if you don’t consider team needs. I think he’s the best prospect.

Then I have Suggs. I guess after that I’d have Cade based on reputation and faith in conventional wisdom because all I’ve seen of the NBDL guys are highlight clips (though Green looks pretty incredible in those clips).

I've seen Cade 8 or 9 times. He's big, strong, fearless and a fast processor, he can legitimately play 1-4 in college (I suspect 2-4 in the NBA), has great shooting indicators and is a very defensible #1 pick for those reasons. But, like you, I just can't get all the way there with him. Absent special athleticism or vision or a top 5% handle, it's way easier for me to see his floor than his ceiling.

I'm with you on Mobley. I'm guessing he's a few years away from becoming "the guy" and will take his reputational lumps until then. But once it clicks, I don't see anything skill-wise or athletically holding him back. To me, a #1 pick has to pop in college, and Mobley pops immediately and unmistakably.

I’m 100% with you guys. It’s a hot take for me given how little I’ve seen these guys play (just like my one on Cade), but Mobley jumps off the screen to me.

I see some shades of Bosh like others noted, and I think Bosh became really underrated due to being the 3rd Heatle. Except Evan just might be even smoother than Bosh.

If he passed a team’s mental makeup tests, and all accounts said he’s a worker, I’d have a hard time passing on him.

[Almost Retired]

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Definitely someone we need to consider to pair up with Zach. There are 4 guys that should be available even if we can manage to trade down: Davion Mitchell of Baylor, David Duke of Providence and Tre Mann of florida and Joel Ayayi of Gonzaga.. Right now I'm leaning to Davion Mitchell. He just has a NBA ready body and is a tough on ball defender. And he has improved his shooting this year. He's a little older but would be ready to start opposite Zach on Day 1. He's naturally strong through his upper and lower body. Not like Lauri's beach muscles. Mitchell knows how to play, and knows how to win. A tough competitor with a good all around game.

Once our draft slot is determined we might want to consider a swap with Houston, which has three 1st rounders and a high second rounder. If we draw 10-12 I can make a case for trading it to Houston for their pick in the 16-20 range plus their high second rounder. We can take Mitchell to try as our PG opposite Zach. And that high second could be used to shore up our front court. Guys that are likely to be there are Petrusev, Drew Timme, Ariel Hukporti, Kofi Cockburn, Roko Prkacin.

Then with our own second round pick we can take a developmental wing. Guys that might be there would include Chris Duarte from Oregon, Isaiah Todd from Ignite, Greg Brown of Texas, Benedict Mathurin of Arizona, Marcus Bagley of Az State, Allen Flanigan of Auburn and Herb Jones of Alabama to name several.

All I know is that we would be wise to add picks somehow. This draft is deep. The Pelicans have second rounders to spare. We could use one of theirs too. We don't have to add all the picks to our roster right away. Several, like Petrusev and Hukporti could be stashed in Europe for additional experience and brought over for the 2022-2023 Season.

[CoreyVillains]

Regarding Cade's speed...when you think the game fast you can play the game slow. Cade is by no means a minus athlete, he's just not a Jalen Green type leaper. He's also huge. He basically got blitzed with two guys every time a ball screen went anywhere near him and his teammates weren't all that talented. If you put Cade on Gonzaga he'd of had a field day. Defensively he's super versatile, gonna be able to guard up and down positions. The clutch gene is ridiculous, on both ends. His off the bounce shooting is NBA made. Definitely needs to tighten the handle but dude is for real.

[MrSparkle]

Well, the nice thing is now there are only 4 star prospects on Bulls' draft board, in case Vuc is a huge let-down. Let me finish the thread out.

1. Cade
2. Suggs
3. Green
4. Mobley

/end draft thread

It's a bit of relief not having to over-analyze penny stocks.

[Nate3carp]

Well, the nice thing is now there are only 4 star prospects on Bulls' draft board, in case Vuc is a huge let-down. Let me finish the thread out.

1. Cade
2. Suggs
3. Green
4. Mobley

/end draft thread

It's a bit of relief not having to over-analyze penny stocks.

Except now we pivot to arguing about 2nd round picks! The ultimate penny stocks

[JockItch43]

Dream scenario is missing out on the playoffs, lucking out into a top 4 pick with the new odds, signing Ball in the offseason, signing Noah as an assistant or Ambassador for the team (to help with the young team and possible FA recruitment).

[Almost Retired]

So No First for us this year and in 2023. I sure wish we could have shipped Valentine for a couple of second rounders. This year's early second round picks are valuable. This is a deep draft. I also wish we could have traded Coby to Houston for their late 1st and early 2nd Round picks. We could have picked up Davion Mitchell and a developmental wing like Isaiah Todd.

[drosestruts]

start writing your press release now about how Simonivic is like getting a first-round pick in this draft.

[WindyCityBorn]

Dream scenario is missing out on the playoffs, lucking out into a top 4 pick with the new odds, signing Ball in the offseason, signing Noah as an assistant or Ambassador for the team (to help with the young team and possible FA recruitment).

My dream scenario is definitely not missing out on the playoffs if it has anything to do with Vuc or Zach not playing great.

[WindyCityBorn]

**** a draft pick! We have two all-stars. One just about to enter his prime and the other in the middle of it with a style of play that should age well. We need to turn the culture around fast so when Vuc slows down their another star demanding in to take his place. I don’t want to see another lottery pick for many years.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Herb Jones
Tre Mann
Aaron Henry
Isaiah Livers


Come on down...

[Almost Retired]

Herb Jones
Tre Mann
Aaron Henry
Isaiah Livers


Come on down...

Or take Ariel Hukporti to stash in Europe for a year or two, or Benedict Mathurin, or Isaiah Todd, or even Isaiah Mobley. The unsung Mobley brother reminds me of a young Horace Grant. A long, lean defensive and rebounding machine. I hope AK can pull off a few minor deals after the season and pick us another late First or early second round pick.

[Leslie Forman]

So…anybody gonna make a 2024 draft thread?

[JockItch43]

Dream scenario is missing out on the playoffs, lucking out into a top 4 pick with the new odds, signing Ball in the offseason, signing Noah as an assistant or Ambassador for the team (to help with the young team and possible FA recruitment).

My dream scenario is definitely not missing out on the playoffs if it has anything to do with Vuc or Zach not playing great.

This year is still fairly meaningless IMO. If they gel quickly, play well, and make a run... great, I’m all for it. But this will likely be our last chance to have this lottery opportunity in a stacked draft if we sneak into the top 4. Could be franchise altering. I’ll take that opportunity with new odds over barely making the playoffs and getting bounced in the first round, even if we don’t hit and the pick goes to Orlando.

[WindyCityBorn]

So…anybody gonna make a 2024 draft thread?

You skipping 2022?