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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#921 » by gobullschi » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:42 am

WYO wrote:
kodo wrote:Are we still trading Lavine after doing things like this for him?

Read on Twitter

Please find the last page someone mentioned trading Lavine because no one is mentioning that anymore in this thread. I'm not sure why you're posting this as if everyone is on a trade Lavine kick here.

Did Kukoc-Lauri stop posting? He had like 10 trade LaVine posts a day.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#922 » by TheStig » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:00 am

gobullschi wrote:
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kodo wrote:Are we still trading Lavine after doing things like this for him?

Read on Twitter

Please find the last page someone mentioned trading Lavine because no one is mentioning that anymore in this thread. I'm not sure why you're posting this as if everyone is on a trade Lavine kick here.

Did Kukoc-Lauri stop posting? He had like 10 trade LaVine posts a day.

I'd still trade him but the price went up :lol:
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#923 » by WindyCityBorn » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:35 am

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Unfortunately I'm not seeing Patrick's handles as very effective on the wing.

On the bright side, he seems fine defending any position. When he gets free, I love his ability to finish strong.

But creating at SF? Hm I dunno. First-step seems too slow. Hopefully he can improve his handles.


He seems plenty explosive enough to me. His handle can get tighter for sure.


I don’t really understand why you’re taking such a hard stance with Patrick Williams playing small forward. It’s too his advantage to player power forward because he will be able to move way more fluidly that most that play the position.

The Bulls didn’t have a small forward, which is why we were all hoping he could play it after the draft.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m totally fine with him playing small forward and there are still plenty of minutes that are available for him to play both positions.


His best future is not as an undersized 4 that will get abused PFs with great size. He plays nothing like one. Why aren’t Kawhi, Lebron, Durant, Brown Tatum etc starting at PF if it is so ideal?
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#924 » by WindyCityBorn » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:43 am

gobullschi wrote:
WYO wrote:
kodo wrote:Are we still trading Lavine after doing things like this for him?

Read on Twitter

Please find the last page someone mentioned trading Lavine because no one is mentioning that anymore in this thread. I'm not sure why you're posting this as if everyone is on a trade Lavine kick here.

Did Kukoc-Lauri stop posting? He had like 10 trade LaVine posts a day.


They got suspended.
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Post#925 » by Muzbar » Wed Mar 3, 2021 11:35 am

Something I threw together:

Bulls

Robin Lopez (Wash)
Mo Bamba (Orl)
Nassir Little (Por)

Magic

Ish Smith (Wash)
Zach Collins (Por)

Blazers

Wendell Carter Jr. (Chi)
Chandler Hutchison (Chi)

Wizards

Chuma Okeke (Orl)
Ryan Arcidiacono (Chi)
Harry Giles III (Por)

Add picks from wherever to wherever to even it out.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#926 » by gobullschi » Wed Mar 3, 2021 12:51 pm

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He seems plenty explosive enough to me. His handle can get tighter for sure.


I don’t really understand why you’re taking such a hard stance with Patrick Williams playing small forward. It’s too his advantage to player power forward because he will be able to move way more fluidly that most that play the position.

The Bulls didn’t have a small forward, which is why we were all hoping he could play it after the draft.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m totally fine with him playing small forward and there are still plenty of minutes that are available for him to play both positions.


His best future is not as an undersized 4 that will get abused PFs with great size. He plays nothing like one. Why aren’t Kawhi, Lebron, Durant, Brown Tatum etc starting at PF if it is so ideal?


A lot of those guys play power forward. (Durant, LeBron, & Tatum)
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#927 » by gobullschi » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:03 pm

Chicago Receives:
Lonzo Ball
Kelly Oubre
Jaxson Hayes
Marquese Chriss (salary filler - cut)

New Orleans Receives:
Wendell Carter Jr.
Tomas Satoransky
2021 2nd (via CHI)
Rights to swap 1st Round Pick w/ CHI (top 5 protected)

Golden State Receives:
Thaddeus Young
Denzel Valentine

Lonzo Ball / Coby White
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple
Patrick Williams / Kelly Oubre
Lauri Markkanen / Otto Porter Jr.
Jaxson Hayes / Lauri Markkanen / Daniel Gafford

Bulls get their playmaker with Lonzo and much more athletic with Oubre & Hayes. Hayes gives the Bulls more size and an extra year of cost-control, but lose some offensive potential.
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Post#928 » by sco » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:05 pm

I'm thinking we'll need to give more to get Ball, although I'd prefer to go with Lauri or Lauri and a 2nd rounder. How bad would we feel about taking back Bledsoe too?

Lauri, Sato, Felicio, Hutch works $-wise for Ball/Bledsoe.

I'd keep Coby in the starting line-up and go with 3 guards, with Ball defending the 3.

White/Ball/Arci
Lavine/Val
Ball/Temple
PWill/Thad
Carter/Thad

could be fun to watch.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#929 » by gobullschi » Wed Mar 3, 2021 3:54 pm

sco wrote:I'm thinking we'll need to give more to get Ball, although I'd prefer to go with Lauri or Lauri and a 2nd rounder. How bad would we feel about taking back Bledsoe too?

Lauri, Sato, Felicio, Hutch works $-wise for Ball/Bledsoe.

I'd keep Coby in the starting line-up and go with 3 guards, with Ball defending the 3.

White/Ball/Arci
Lavine/Val
Ball/Temple
PWill/Thad
Carter/Thad

could be fun to watch.


I have no interest in absorbing Bledsoe’s contract because it’s one of the worst contracts in the league.

Also, I’m not a fan of the three guard line up. I’d start Ball and have Coby be an offensive spark off the bench.

Lonzo seems to playing his way towards a big contract. What’s the most you pay him?
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Post#930 » by sco » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:25 pm

gobullschi wrote:
sco wrote:I'm thinking we'll need to give more to get Ball, although I'd prefer to go with Lauri or Lauri and a 2nd rounder. How bad would we feel about taking back Bledsoe too?

Lauri, Sato, Felicio, Hutch works $-wise for Ball/Bledsoe.

I'd keep Coby in the starting line-up and go with 3 guards, with Ball defending the 3.

White/Ball/Arci
Lavine/Val
Ball/Temple
PWill/Thad
Carter/Thad

could be fun to watch.


I have no interest in absorbing Bledsoe’s contract because it’s one of the worst contracts in the league.

Also, I’m not a fan of the three guard line up. I’d start Ball and have Coby be an offensive spark off the bench.

Lonzo seems to playing his way towards a big contract. What’s the most you pay him?

What I'd pay him would be based on his performance with us bounced against whatever the market bears. That's the value of getting him now. If he shows real limitations, I'd let him walk but not get tied down by his contract. If he's awesome, I'd match the market.
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Post#931 » by gobullschi » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:39 pm

sco wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
sco wrote:I'm thinking we'll need to give more to get Ball, although I'd prefer to go with Lauri or Lauri and a 2nd rounder. How bad would we feel about taking back Bledsoe too?

Lauri, Sato, Felicio, Hutch works $-wise for Ball/Bledsoe.

I'd keep Coby in the starting line-up and go with 3 guards, with Ball defending the 3.

White/Ball/Arci
Lavine/Val
Ball/Temple
PWill/Thad
Carter/Thad

could be fun to watch.


I have no interest in absorbing Bledsoe’s contract because it’s one of the worst contracts in the league.

Also, I’m not a fan of the three guard line up. I’d start Ball and have Coby be an offensive spark off the bench.

Lonzo seems to playing his way towards a big contract. What’s the most you pay him?

What I'd pay him would be based on his performance with us bounced against whatever the market bears. That's the value of getting him now. If he shows real limitations, I'd let him walk but not get tied down by his contract. If he's awesome, I'd match the market.


I’m not in favor of moving multiple assets for a player that you’re willing to let walk. If you trade for him, you should be confident and willing to retain him at all costs.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#932 » by ChettheJet » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:56 pm

I don't get why so many of you want to pigeonhole Williams into one position or the other. He's going to play his 36 minutes, where he plays most of them depends on who else the Bulls have. Is Tobias Harris a SF or a PF, don't you think if the Bulls had both it wouldn't matter where you listed either of them? Maybe they have a very good PF coming off the bench like oh Thad Young, so Williams gets more minutes at the SF when they play together. Maybe they get a smaller hot shooting SF like a Kyle Korver, so PW gets minutes at the PF next to him. Maybe the other team has a PF like Lauri who isn't a beast inside.

People need to stop limiting your thinking it makes you look like you can't think beyond the obvious
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#933 » by sco » Wed Mar 3, 2021 5:42 pm

gobullschi wrote:
sco wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
I have no interest in absorbing Bledsoe’s contract because it’s one of the worst contracts in the league.

Also, I’m not a fan of the three guard line up. I’d start Ball and have Coby be an offensive spark off the bench.

Lonzo seems to playing his way towards a big contract. What’s the most you pay him?

What I'd pay him would be based on his performance with us bounced against whatever the market bears. That's the value of getting him now. If he shows real limitations, I'd let him walk but not get tied down by his contract. If he's awesome, I'd match the market.


I’m not in favor of moving multiple assets for a player that you’re willing to let walk. If you trade for him, you should be confident and willing to retain him at all costs.

I only offered assets that I would want to leave for an asset I have a higher confidence would stay.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#934 » by Sinistar6 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:28 pm

Yes we are late on the Ball train. I like pwill but wish we moved up for Ball using anything but laVine and our next first (oh well spilt milk and we got a good player). We also let the older brother play his way into more assets instead of doing what we could earlier.
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Post#935 » by weneeda2guard » Wed Mar 3, 2021 7:25 pm

Sinistar6 wrote:Yes we are late on the Ball train. I like pwill but wish we moved up for Ball using anything but laVine and our next first (oh well spilt milk and we got a good player). We also let the older brother play his way into more assets instead of doing what we could earlier.

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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#936 » by skywalker33 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 8:02 pm

See quite a few trades whe CHI is looking to obtain Hampton, Nnaji or both from the Nuggets for your scapes. How about we counter with this....CHI gives DEN the option to swap picks in the 1st and we'll draft for you, we're much better at it it seems. :lol:
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#937 » by MrSparkle » Wed Mar 3, 2021 8:07 pm

skywalker33 wrote:See quite a few trades whe CHI is looking to obtain Hampton, Nnaji or both from the Nuggets for your scapes. How about we counter with this....CHI gives DEN the option to swap picks in the 1st and we'll draft for you, we're much better at it it seems. :lol:


I have actually never seen a RJ Hampton trade. Is the 7.4 PER fella projected to be a star or something? Furthermore, didn't we poach the guy responsible for your picks?
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#938 » by jmajew » Wed Mar 3, 2021 8:23 pm

I'm bored....

Bulls Trade: Porter, Lauri, Arci, Felicio, & Sato
Bulls get: Drummond and Lowry

Toronto trades: Lowry
Toronto gets: Lauri, Arci, Felicio, and Sato

Cleveland gets: Porter Jr.
Cleveland Trades: Drummond.

Lowry, Lavine, PWill, Carter Jr, Drummond is a very good starting unit. You then have a bench of Thad, Coby, Valentine, etc.

That team could make it to ECF if we get some good breaks. Costs us nothing for next year.
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Post#939 » by sco » Wed Mar 3, 2021 8:39 pm

jmajew wrote:I'm bored....

Bulls Trade: Porter, Lauri, Arci, Felicio, & Sato
Bulls get: Drummond and Lowry

Toronto trades: Lowry
Toronto gets: Lauri, Arci, Felicio, and Sato

Cleveland gets: Porter Jr.
Cleveland Trades: Drummond.

Lowry, Lavine, PWill, Carter Jr, Drummond is a very good starting unit. You then have a bench of Thad, Coby, Valentine, etc.

That team could make it to ECF if we get some good breaks. Costs us nothing for next year.

Sign me up. Maybe getting Lowry will confuse the Lauri fans into not objecting.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#940 » by skywalker33 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 8:45 pm

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skywalker33 wrote:See quite a few trades whe CHI is looking to obtain Hampton, Nnaji or both from the Nuggets for your scapes. How about we counter with this....CHI gives DEN the option to swap picks in the 1st and we'll draft for you, we're much better at it it seems. :lol:


I have actually never seen a RJ Hampton trade. Is the 7.4 PER fella projected to be a star or something? Furthermore, didn't we poach the guy responsible for your picks?


Guess you don't venture over into the TnT board much, 2 or 3 trades with CHI posters wanting DEN to bend over, at least in the last week or so. Take a look, you'll enjoy the ridicule CHI fans are taking over there...as for poaching AK, definitely an improvement over what you had there but I thought PW was a bit over-drafted at #4, guess AK felt he had to reach instead of trading down. And I'll take the 7.4 PER guy at #24 over the 10 PER guy at #4 anytime, seems much better value to me.
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