Woj: Vucevic/Aminu for Carter Jr/Porter/ 2 1sts

[Mk0]

Spoiler:

There seriously needs to be someone that compiles all of the hilarious comments from the other night in multiple threads. They were too hysterical to just let fade away. It needs to be an organized poster with all of the comments plastered all over it like a collage

Not only is this the greatest trade in Bulls franchise history, but Chicago absolutely decimated everyone else who was active at the deadline. They won it by a complete landslide. AK demoralized the Magic. This was akin to the Gasol Lakers fleece trade. Just incredible stuff from Artie & Marc. I

I don’t people realize just how good the Voochmeister is. He’s the best C in the league on some nights. He is a BEAST, one of the last true Swiss Army knife unicorn Cs in basketball who can do everything well & at an absurdly high level. He’s an Ironman who is always healthy. He’s still got 4/5 years of great play left in him, and he’s somehow on an affordable deal. He & ZLV are gonna be incredible together, people have no idea

And this is just the beginning

I seriously have no idea how he battered up Orlando like that. Whoa. That was an obscene robbery. Even if WCJ becomes Horford x100, it’s one of the worst trades in recent memory. Just below the Butler trade in terms of “wow wtf were they thinking...”. I was against getting Vooci Mane because I thought it’d cost like 4 1sts or something crazy, but had no idea that AK was going to torch a team like he did. Either way, everyone making those comments in those other threads should copy & paste them here & in the Theis thread lmfao

The crazy thing is that Vooch is actually improving. His game relies on almost no athleticism, it’s all footwork & sheer skill. And he’s an *ironman*. Never gets hurt.

I saw someone compare this to the Boozer signing, and I’d disagree. Boozer was a massive question mark. He was extremely injury prone & Jazz fans were thrilled to see him go. It was heavily questioned whether or not he’d be the player he was post-injuries, at a slimmer weight, and he wasn’t that guy anymore. Vooch is a top 20 player in his prime, in 2021!!! This is the biggest Bulls news since the 2008 lottery announcement

Markkanen next, plz!

I don't think anyone cares about publicly humiliating others except for you. It's weird and toxic. We're all Bulls fans here. But if you're really hung up on "hilarious comments from the other night", then let's take a look at these:

Obviously they should stand pat. Absolutely no point in making any unnecessary trades right now. Bulls will be fine

Seems like quite a change of tones. AK obviously disagreed.

I saw someone suggest Vucevic too. Way too old & a career loser. Horrible idea. Way too much $$ too

Ouch. He went from "Way too old & a career loser" and a "Horrible idea" to the greatest trade in Bulls history in only a matter of a few days? He also has one of the best value contracts in the league, so I wouldn't say "Way too much $$" is an accurate statement either.

Vucevic isn’t a player that the Bulls should look to invest in. That would be an atrocious idea. He’d be a decent fit & would perform, but it’d wind up being a redundant scenario pretty rapidly. Also, Vucevic is 30 year old 16th draft pick. WCJ & Coby White are *21 & 20 YEARS OF AGE RESPECTIVELY*. Should I repeat that....or...should someone else repeat it ad nauseum for you? What in gods name are you even talking about??

Was it an "atrocious idea" or "akin to the Gasol Lakers fleece trade. Just incredible stuff from Artie & Marc"?

As I stated above, Chicago will be just fine. They’re in good hands, and as the 2nd youngest team in the entire NBA, they’re actually doing pretty well all things considered. WCJ is going to come around eventually. He had some nasty injuries that prevented him from really doing anything in the gym for prolonged periods, but once he gets his body right, he’ll be back on track. Coby will come around.

You were right about one thing: the Bulls are in good hands, just not at all in the way you implied. Seems like you were more interested in keeping things intact and banking on WCJ and Coby "coming around" and reaching their potential rather than trading for an all-star like Vuch. Crazy how things can change so drastically in just a few days.

All I all, there won’t be any major moves until after this season is threw, nor should there be. There’s no rush

Hmm...

Again, the Bulls are fine. They’re right where anyone would expect an extremely young team to be at this stage, and are actually ahead of the curve, considering what these players went through over the past two seasons. They’re not in the most stable situation, but are far from unstable lmfao

Seriously, these threads after losses “omgzwutwillwedo21yroldplayerizbustomgomggz”. Bush league/reddit level hilarity

Superiority complex and maturity issues aside, everything you said today flies in the face of what you said just a few days ago. Looks like there was room for you on the "trades are good" bandwagon after all.

There seriously needs to be someone that compiles all of the hilarious comments from the other night in multiple threads. They were too hysterical to just let fade away. It needs to be an organized poster with all of the comments plastered all over it like a collage

Done and done.

absolute savagery

Absolutely murdered and buried him in the desert. Never to be seen again.

Seriously though, after being exposed like that it is a really tough sell to get anyone to read your posts ever again. May as well delete the account.

[Mk0]

I think GoBlue72391 just won the Trade Deadline

[2018C3]

I have to give credit where it is do.

Check out this post from Senior Mod "HomoSapien" on Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:59 pm. Just over a month ago.

It was in the topic: "Let's Shift The Discussion: What Does A Team Built Around Zach LaVine Look Like" On page 12.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2041002&start=220

"I've been mentioning Vuc for several seasons now. I think he's one of the most underrated players in the NBA and is a victim to the undervaluing of centers. Has a guy averaging 24 and 12 ever been less talked about? Orlando really should trade him and blow up that team, because they are going nowhere fast and are also getting older. I know trading Lauri was mentioned but I'd actually offer Carter and Porter for Vuc and Aminu (salary filler).

Carter and Vuc won't be able to successfully play together anyway, and there's no point in burying Carter to the bench. I also think there's a shot of Vuc opening up things for Lauri with his passing ability. His elite rebounding also helps hide Lauri's issues on the boards."

Wow, that was pretty much spot on! Congrats for having the foresight that this might be possible "HomoSapien".

[Stratmaster]

There seriously needs to be someone that compiles all of the hilarious comments from the other night in multiple threads. They were too hysterical to just let fade away. It needs to be an organized poster with all of the comments plastered all over it like a collage

Not only is this the greatest trade in Bulls franchise history, but Chicago absolutely decimated everyone else who was active at the deadline. They won it by a complete landslide. AK demoralized the Magic. This was akin to the Gasol Lakers fleece trade. Just incredible stuff from Artie & Marc. I

I don’t people realize just how good the Voochmeister is. He’s the best C in the league on some nights. He is a BEAST, one of the last true Swiss Army knife unicorn Cs in basketball who can do everything well & at an absurdly high level. He’s an Ironman who is always healthy. He’s still got 4/5 years of great play left in him, and he’s somehow on an affordable deal. He & ZLV are gonna be incredible together, people have no idea

And this is just the beginning

I seriously have no idea how he battered up Orlando like that. Whoa. That was an obscene robbery. Even if WCJ becomes Horford x100, it’s one of the worst trades in recent memory. Just below the Butler trade in terms of “wow wtf were they thinking...”. I was against getting Vooci Mane because I thought it’d cost like 4 1sts or something crazy, but had no idea that AK was going to torch a team like he did. Either way, everyone making those comments in those other threads should copy & paste them here & in the Theis thread lmfao

The crazy thing is that Vooch is actually improving. His game relies on almost no athleticism, it’s all footwork & sheer skill. And he’s an *ironman*. Never gets hurt.

I saw someone compare this to the Boozer signing, and I’d disagree. Boozer was a massive question mark. He was extremely injury prone & Jazz fans were thrilled to see him go. It was heavily questioned whether or not he’d be the player he was post-injuries, at a slimmer weight, and he wasn’t that guy anymore. Vooch is a top 20 player in his prime, in 2021!!! This is the biggest Bulls news since the 2008 lottery announcement

Markkanen next, plz!

I don't think anyone cares about publicly humiliating others except for you. It's weird and toxic. We're all Bulls fans here. But if you're really hung up on "hilarious comments from the other night", then let's take a look at these:

Obviously they should stand pat. Absolutely no point in making any unnecessary trades right now. Bulls will be fine

Seems like quite a change of tones. AK obviously disagreed.

I saw someone suggest Vucevic too. Way too old & a career loser. Horrible idea. Way too much $$ too

Ouch. He went from "Way too old & a career loser" and a "Horrible idea" to the greatest trade in Bulls history in only a matter of a few days? He also has one of the best value contracts in the league, so I wouldn't say "Way too much $$" is an accurate statement either.

Vucevic isn’t a player that the Bulls should look to invest in. That would be an atrocious idea. He’d be a decent fit & would perform, but it’d wind up being a redundant scenario pretty rapidly. Also, Vucevic is 30 year old 16th draft pick. WCJ & Coby White are *21 & 20 YEARS OF AGE RESPECTIVELY*. Should I repeat that....or...should someone else repeat it ad nauseum for you? What in gods name are you even talking about??

Was it an "atrocious idea" or "akin to the Gasol Lakers fleece trade. Just incredible stuff from Artie & Marc"?

As I stated above, Chicago will be just fine. They’re in good hands, and as the 2nd youngest team in the entire NBA, they’re actually doing pretty well all things considered. WCJ is going to come around eventually. He had some nasty injuries that prevented him from really doing anything in the gym for prolonged periods, but once he gets his body right, he’ll be back on track. Coby will come around.

You were right about one thing: the Bulls are in good hands, just not at all in the way you implied. Seems like you were more interested in keeping things intact and banking on WCJ and Coby "coming around" and reaching their potential rather than trading for an all-star like Vuch. Crazy how things can change so drastically in just a few days.

All I all, there won’t be any major moves until after this season is threw, nor should there be. There’s no rush

Hmm...

Again, the Bulls are fine. They’re right where anyone would expect an extremely young team to be at this stage, and are actually ahead of the curve, considering what these players went through over the past two seasons. They’re not in the most stable situation, but are far from unstable lmfao

Seriously, these threads after losses “omgzwutwillwedo21yroldplayerizbustomgomggz”. Bush league/reddit level hilarity

Superiority complex and maturity issues aside, everything you said today flies in the face of what you said just a few days ago. Looks like there was room for you on the "trades are good" bandwagon after all.

There seriously needs to be someone that compiles all of the hilarious comments from the other night in multiple threads. They were too hysterical to just let fade away. It needs to be an organized poster with all of the comments plastered all over it like a collage

Done and done.

Even if I hated this trade and considered it a complete disaster, it would have all been worth it to produce this post. Fatality.

IKR? GoBlue wins the interwebs today.

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[Dresden]

"The Boston Celtics pursued a trade for Nikola Vucevic before he was moved by the Orlando Magic to the Chicago Bulls. Boston offered multiple first round picks and were a finalist."

How about that? AK out traded Danny Ainge.

[Dresden]

I like the deal. I am okay with taking a break from tanking and seeing out the rest of Zach Lavine's prime. Lets go all-in for the next 5-7 years and talk about tanking/rebuilding once Zach is on the decline.

I’d wager Chicago never tanks again. I don’t see it ever happening, not now. No reason to. The elite franchises don’t tank nor rebuild, they’re always competitive because they develop talent correctly. Plain & simple. Even in 5/7 years down the road, Arturas & co will have guys ready to contribute. That’s how the elites operate. There is no tanking nor rebuilding, ever. San Antonio, Denver, Miami, Utah, Boston, etc. The only way I see Chicago selecting in the lottery again is if they somehow acquire a lotto pick

Yup. I think in 10-15 years people are gonna laugh at "the process" /tank stuff. Like a well timed tank because of an unfortunate injury... Okay. But this multi year stuff, nah.

I think what the elite teams do more than anything is attract free agents. Look at LAL- they didn't develop Randle, Ball, or Russell. They're all gone from a team that is built around two free agent superstars (essentially). Same with MIA- they got Jimmy Butler, and now Oladipo. They did make a wise/lucky draft pick in Bam. They didn't do much a job with Justice Winslow.

I'm not sure what teams you would even call elite anymore in the nba, outside of LAL.

[Dresden]

Some fun facts that I learned because I am avoiding work: Vuc is of Montenegrin descent, the same as Nikola Mirotic. Mirotic liked Chicago because of the relatively large Montenegrin community here. I think Vuc has to be excited about that. Orlando does not compare to Chicago on that front.

Another Montenegrin: Gregg Popovich. Maybe we could entice Pop to come to beautiful Chicago to coach some day.

Good research on the Montenegrin connection. Can't be very many of those in the nba. I hope Nikola doesn't sell him on playing in Europe though.

[Dresden]

Precisely. Arturas himself said something along the lines of “I sincerely hope that this franchise never picks in the lottery ever again”, and I don’t think they will

The top teams are never in rebuild mode; they’re constantly stashing, developing, moving parts around, rinse/repeat, and they’re always grooming assistant coaches & rotating/expanding developmental personnel & tactics in order to keep things fresh & ahead of the curve, etc etc.

If something doesn’t work out, no big deal, we’ve got a guy in Europe ready to come over, or a guy in the G-League that we’ve been developing & are high on, so on & so forth. On to the next one. The best FOs are never sleeping, constantly grinding away

Unless something enormously drastic occurs, I just don’t see a reason for Chicago to ever tank or do a full-tear down ever again. There’s just no reason for a huge market juggernaut (that should & will be an epicentre of FA activity & immense brand growth potential) with competent management to ever blow it up.

The Bulls are third in the entire NBA in overall revenue. *Third*, and this is after them being the laughing stock of the league for the past 20 years. All they needed to do was burn down the decrepit house that uncle Jerry built, and hire elite professional management, and the sky was the limit. This was always the case for the Bulls, they were a dormant goldmine/sleeping behemoth

Well said on the bolded parts. Could not agree more. They are finally moving in the right direction- acquiring experienced, high level talent with the aim of winning as soon as possible- and seem to finally have a competent guy in charge.

[HouseOfLight]

I’d wager Chicago never tanks again. I don’t see it ever happening, not now. No reason to. The elite franchises don’t tank nor rebuild, they’re always competitive because they develop talent correctly. Plain & simple. Even in 5/7 years down the road, Arturas & co will have guys ready to contribute. That’s how the elites operate. There is no tanking nor rebuilding, ever. San Antonio, Denver, Miami, Utah, Boston, etc. The only way I see Chicago selecting in the lottery again is if they somehow acquire a lotto pick

Yup. I think in 10-15 years people are gonna laugh at "the process" /tank stuff. Like a well timed tank because of an unfortunate injury... Okay. But this multi year stuff, nah.

I think what the elite teams do more than anything is attract free agents. Look at LAL- they didn't develop Randle, Ball, or Russell. They're all gone from a team that is built around two free agent superstars (essentially). Same with MIA- they got Jimmy Butler, and now Oladipo. They did make a wise/lucky draft pick in Bam. They didn't do much a job with Justice Winslow.

I'm not sure what teams you would even call elite anymore in the nba, outside of LAL.

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[GoBlue72391]

I have to give credit where it is do.

Check out this post from Senior Mod "HomoSapien" on Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:59 pm. Just over a month ago.

It was in the topic: "Let's Shift The Discussion: What Does A Team Built Around Zach LaVine Look Like"

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2041002&start=220

"I've been mentioning Vuc for several seasons now. I think he's one of the most underrated players in the NBA and is a victim to the undervaluing of centers. Has a guy averaging 24 and 12 ever been less talked about? Orlando really should trade him and blow up that team, because they are going nowhere fast and are also getting older. I know trading Lauri was mentioned but I'd actually offer Carter and Porter for Vuc and Aminu (salary filler).

Carter and Vuc won't be able to successfully play together anyway, and there's no point in burying Carter to the bench. I also think there's a shot of Vuc opening up things for Lauri with his passing ability. His elite rebounding also helps hide Lauri's issues on the boards."

Wow, that was pretty much spot on! Congrats for having the foresight that this might be possible "HomoSapien".

So now we know that AK posts here under the handle HomoSapien.

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[CaPiTanAK]

"The Boston Celtics pursued a trade for Nikola Vucevic before he was moved by the Orlando Magic to the Chicago Bulls. Boston offered multiple first round picks and were a finalist."

How about that? AK out traded Danny Ainge.

Multiple first rounders lol. More like multiple second rounders. It’s always typical Danny Ainge to leak misinformation to the media in order to take off heat for him not being able to close deals. Danny hasn’t changed one bit. He always aims to rip teams off and that’s why no stars will ever be traded to the Celtics while he’s at the helm.

[Pax for Prez]

"The Boston Celtics pursued a trade for Nikola Vucevic before he was moved by the Orlando Magic to the Chicago Bulls. Boston offered multiple first round picks and were a finalist."

How about that? AK out traded Danny Ainge.

Orlando viewed the Bulls 1st rd picks ( 2 All Stars) higher than Boston 1st rd picks (with 3 All Stars).

[Dresden]

Yup. I think in 10-15 years people are gonna laugh at "the process" /tank stuff. Like a well timed tank because of an unfortunate injury... Okay. But this multi year stuff, nah.

I think what the elite teams do more than anything is attract free agents. Look at LAL- they didn't develop Randle, Ball, or Russell. They're all gone from a team that is built around two free agent superstars (essentially). Same with MIA- they got Jimmy Butler, and now Oladipo. They did make a wise/lucky draft pick in Bam. They didn't do much a job with Justice Winslow.

I'm not sure what teams you would even call elite anymore in the nba, outside of LAL.

Oof. Not even close lol. That isn’t how that works. Is this a serious assertion?

Is that a serious question that mine was not a serious assertion? How did LAL get to be champions- acquired Lebron and AD, not by trying to develop Russell, Randle, or Ball. How did MIA get to the Finals? By picking up Jimmy Butler. And now they've added Oladipo. Same thing in BRK, although it's yet to be proven how far they can go. But traded/signed Durant, Harden, Kyrie. Not waiting on draft picks to develop.

Of course there are exceptions- MIL with Giannis, although they have not even made it to the finals yet. BOS has done well with their young corp, but they did add veterans Kemba and Hayward to complement them, and it looks like they'll have to add some more if they want to get back to the level they were at.

I'm talking about the last few years, and what things look like moving forward. GS of course built a dynasty through the draft, but that is not something I see another team doing anytime soon, unless that team is Philly, but I don't like their chances. MIA won two titles built around FA's, and CLE won their title getting back Lebron.

So outside of a few teams, it's all about being able to attract top 5, top 10 players to your team. It certainly helps if you can also develop a few pieces of your own, but that alone rarely looks like it will win titles again.

[HouseOfLight]

The primary reason no players want to play in Boston is because it is a small, mostly-white, obscenely racist city. Non-white players still deal with racial epithets & slurs shouted at them during Boston sporting events, it’s pretty messed up

Combine that with their general disregard toward what their talent desires, and they’ll never be a destination. With all of that said, Ainge is one of the greatest GMs of the modern era to do what he’s done where he’s done it. He’s created potato salad out of rotting spuds on multiple occasions & has mostly been a wizard in trades

Regarding the Bulls landing Vooch over Boston, the Orlando fans that I’ve spoken with have said that it was because the Orlando FO is allegedly super high on WCJ & viewed him as the best asset of the deal

[HouseOfLight]

I think what the elite teams do more than anything is attract free agents. Look at LAL- they didn't develop Randle, Ball, or Russell. They're all gone from a team that is built around two free agent superstars (essentially). Same with MIA- they got Jimmy Butler, and now Oladipo. They did make a wise/lucky draft pick in Bam. They didn't do much a job with Justice Winslow.

I'm not sure what teams you would even call elite anymore in the nba, outside of LAL.

Oof. Not even close lol. That isn’t how that works. Is this a serious assertion?

Is that a serious question that mine was not a serious assertion? How did LAL get to be champions- acquired Lebron and AD, not by trying to develop Russell, Randle, or Ball. How did MIA get to the Finals? By picking up Jimmy Butler. And now they've added Oladipo. Same thing in BRK, although it's yet to be proven how far they can go. But traded/signed Durant, Harden, Kyrie. Not waiting on draft picks to develop.

Of course there are exceptions- MIL with Giannis, although they have not even made it to the finals yet. BOS has done well with their young corp, but they did add veterans Kemba and Hayward to complement them, and it looks like they'll have to add some more if they want to get back to the level they were at.

I'm talking about the last few years, and what things look like moving forward. GS of course built a dynasty through the draft, but that is not something I see another team doing anytime soon, unless that team is Philly, but I don't like their chances. MIA won two titles built around FA's, and CLE won their title getting back Lebron.

So outside of a few teams, it's all about being able to attract top 5, top 10 players to your team. It certainly helps if you can also develop a few pieces of your own, but that alone rarely looks like it will win titles again.

That initial response was actually meant for another comment in another thread, RGM is running like absolutely molasses-thick s*** right now & is tweaking out like crazy

But....the top FOs in the NBA over the past 15 years have been San Antonio, Miami, Oakland, OKC, Boston, Utah, Clippers, Denver, Toronto. San Antonio & Miami are obviously in a tier all their own & are by far and away the most consistently elite front offices

IE: you’ll never see any of these teams going through “rebuilds” nor tanking. They’re always in the mix & are always staying competitive. No idea how the Lakers would be in there seeing as they sucked for a decade & were constantly in the lottery. They had one good year (last year) wherein they won a glorified summer league tourney, and they mortgaged their entire future for that one good year. We’ll see what happens in the future, but they were the polar opposite of elite for over a decade. I don’t see how that puts them in the top tier with those other franchises that have avoided rebuilding for over a decade. The lakers FO isn’t even the same people as it was a few years back

[ThisGuyFawkes]

What do you think is in the Chipotle bag, burrito or bowl? I'm betting a bowl.

He's a growing boy, needs them carbs. I'd guess burrito.

[kodo]

I like the deal. I am okay with taking a break from tanking and seeing out the rest of Zach Lavine's prime. Lets go all-in for the next 5-7 years and talk about tanking/rebuilding once Zach is on the decline.

I’d wager Chicago never tanks again. I don’t see it ever happening, not now. No reason to. The elite franchises don’t tank nor rebuild, they’re always competitive because they develop talent correctly. Plain & simple. Even in 5/7 years down the road, Arturas & co will have guys ready to contribute. That’s how the elites operate. There is no tanking nor rebuilding, ever. San Antonio, Denver, Miami, Utah, Boston, etc. The only way I see Chicago selecting in the lottery again is if they somehow acquire a lotto pick

Yup. I think in 10-15 years people are gonna laugh at "the process" /tank stuff. Like a well timed tank because of an unfortunate injury... Okay. But this multi year stuff, nah.

I still think rolling the dice in the draft can be a viable team building strategy, but not the way Chicago was doing it. Which was just relying on their one 1st rounder every year. There's no strategy here, just trying to be lucky.

Presti is doing it the right way, 34 picks for the next 7 years, 17 first round picks. He can blow multiple draft calls and it's still likely he'll draft some future stars.

But with Chicago never making moves to acquire more picks, I don't see why we'd more successful drafting than any other team.

[HomoSapien]

I have to give credit where it is do.

Check out this post from Senior Mod "HomoSapien" on Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:59 pm. Just over a month ago.

It was in the topic: "Let's Shift The Discussion: What Does A Team Built Around Zach LaVine Look Like" On page 12.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2041002&start=220

"I've been mentioning Vuc for several seasons now. I think he's one of the most underrated players in the NBA and is a victim to the undervaluing of centers. Has a guy averaging 24 and 12 ever been less talked about? Orlando really should trade him and blow up that team, because they are going nowhere fast and are also getting older. I know trading Lauri was mentioned but I'd actually offer Carter and Porter for Vuc and Aminu (salary filler).

Carter and Vuc won't be able to successfully play together anyway, and there's no point in burying Carter to the bench. I also think there's a shot of Vuc opening up things for Lauri with his passing ability. His elite rebounding also helps hide Lauri's issues on the boards."

Wow, that was pretty much spot on! Congrats for having the foresight that this might be possible "HomoSapien".

Thanks for the shout-out, man! This may be the first time ever the Bulls have done a move that I've been advocating for, so I'm about as happy as a fan can be. My guess is that Siakam is the guy they target next, with Kawhi being a longshot possibility if LAC stumbles in the playoffs.

[HomoSapien]

I have to give credit where it is do.

Check out this post from Senior Mod "HomoSapien" on Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:59 pm. Just over a month ago.

It was in the topic: "Let's Shift The Discussion: What Does A Team Built Around Zach LaVine Look Like"

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2041002&start=220

"I've been mentioning Vuc for several seasons now. I think he's one of the most underrated players in the NBA and is a victim to the undervaluing of centers. Has a guy averaging 24 and 12 ever been less talked about? Orlando really should trade him and blow up that team, because they are going nowhere fast and are also getting older. I know trading Lauri was mentioned but I'd actually offer Carter and Porter for Vuc and Aminu (salary filler).

Carter and Vuc won't be able to successfully play together anyway, and there's no point in burying Carter to the bench. I also think there's a shot of Vuc opening up things for Lauri with his passing ability. His elite rebounding also helps hide Lauri's issues on the boards."

Wow, that was pretty much spot on! Congrats for having the foresight that this might be possible "HomoSapien".

So now we know that AK posts here under the handle HomoSapien.

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I'm not done.

[2018C3]

I'm not done.

Not only did you propose this trade, you also started the tread titled:

"Let's Shift The Discussion: What Does A Team Built Around Zach LaVine Look Like? "

And that's exactly the direction that was taken. About a month ago I made a post that said something I think like, "I am ready to build around Lavine, and prior to this year I was not sure". I found your post while I was looking for it.

So I am also happy with the turn of events. A year ago I wasn't sure if Lavine was just going to be another J.R Smith, or a guy worth keeping. His play this year has really convinced me that this was the right move. I'm excited to see the recent changes.