LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2

[LoveDaBoo]

there is only 1 thing i care about in the boozer vs aldridge debate

who better helps us get past miami

all those other numbers are useless. for the record though, there is not a gm on the planet, not in china, argentina nowhere, that will attempt to explain how boozer is better than aldridge. that will only happen here in bulls fans land


its simple for me. heat single covered boozer and he disappears.

if miami single covers aldridge, flat out torture down low. he will eat bosh, birdman and whoever else down there food.

dont get it twisted, i understand that if boozer wanted to it can be the same for him. problem is half the time he does not want to. for whatever reason.

Yeah, but we're not talking about swapping them 1 for 1. I think everyone'd agree that LMA would be much better in Boozer's role. But LMA will cost us other players, and the difference may not be great enough to make up for the losses.

[kingkirk]

Before i get crucified for being a defender of the FO or for loving our own plays too much, or possibly not wanting to upgrade talent, this is why we're not doing this deal.

Right now, we're quite close to a title. With a healthy Rose, we're a top 5-6 team in this league, and i would expect us to be the 2nd team out East behind Miami.

Right now, as it stands, we have very good players at every single position we have, with each guy having more than capable skills.

Rose, Butler, Deng, Boozer & Noah is a terrific starting 5. Its balanced, has strong defense and has a proven formula (minus Butler, who will only enhance it).

Trading for Aldridge, whilst we already have a capable, though much maligned PF, doesn't make sense when you make a complete whole at the center spot.

Boozer has his issues, but we have no capable back up at center to insert into the starting lineup, and nor did we draft one.

If we were moving a weaknesses from one postion to another i.e. PF to C, then i could see the case for trading Noah, but right now, and for the first time in Rose's career, we have no weak spot in the starting lineup like we have previously with either Bogans or Rip going through the 2 spot.

Making the PF spot that bit stronger (whilst also committing a lot more $ already invested to it), doesn't make sense when you make a giant whole at the center spot, a position which is huge in our success, which is heavily based on rebounding and defense.

There is an opportunity cost in trading for Aldridge, and that's the part i have an issue with.

[LoveDaBoo]

Before i get crucified for being a defender of the FO or for loving our own plays too much, or possibly not wanting to upgrade talent, this is why we're not doing this deal.

Right now, we're quite close to a title. With a healthy Rose, we're a top 5-6 team in this league, and i would expect us to be the 2nd team out East behind Miami.

Right now, as it stands, we have very good players at every single position we have, with each guy having more than capable skills.

Rose, Butler, Deng, Boozer & Noah is a terrific starting 5. Its balanced, has strong defense and has a proven formula (minus Butler, who will only enhance it).

Trading for Aldridge, whilst we already have a capable, though much maligned PF, doesn't make sense when you make a complete whole at the center spot.

Boozer has his issues, but we have no capable back up at center to insert into the starting lineup, and nor did we draft one.

If we were moving a weaknesses from one postion to another i.e. PF to C, then i could see the case for trading Noah, but right now, and for the first time in Rose's career, we have no weak spot in the starting lineup like we have previously with either Bogans or Rip going through the 2 spot.

Making the PF spot that bit stronger (whilst also committing a lot more $ already invested to it), doesn't make sense when you make a giant whole at the center spot, a position which is huge in our success, which is heavily based on rebounding and defense.

There is an opportunity cost in trading for Aldridge, and that's the part i have an issue with.

TL:DR -We should be a very good team, and balanced across the 5 positions; upgrading one position isn't worth creating a hole at another.

[LawSon18]

Aldridge is marginally better than Boozer and a little younger.

Come on yall.

I love my team but our fans are ridiculous. Jesus.

[jc23]

The guy on the Portland board with the sources seems to think this is a legit thing. In the end i see Aldridge getting traded but not to Chicago. I wonder if its not even about playing for the Bulls, but he is using us as a destination to shake things up (i mean its happened before).

[RedBulls23]

The guy on the Portland board with the sources seems to think this is a legit thing. In the end i see Aldridge getting traded but not to Chicago. I wonder if its not even about playing for the Bulls, but he is using us as a destination to shake things up (i mean its happened before).

What that Aldridge wants to be traded or that Portland won't do it for less than Noah?

[Ralphb07]

TB is legit and overall pretty cool. The Portland bored is lucky to have him. We've been going back and forth the past few days with what we're hearing and it's cool because we are hearing the same exact things, but at the same time I am getting what the Blazers are thinking and he is getting what the Bulls are thinking.

This thing is far from over

[RedBulls23]

TB is legit and overall pretty cool. The Portland bored is lucky to have him. We've been going back and forth the past few days with what we're hearing and it's cool because we are hearing the same exact things, but at the same time I am getting what the Blazers are thinking and he is getting what the Bulls are thinking.

This thing is far from over

Thanks Ralph.

So in your opinion do you see a deal getting done without us having to give up Noah and Jimmy?

[Ralphb07]

TB is legit and overall pretty cool. The Portland bored is lucky to have him. We've been going back and forth the past few days with what we're hearing and it's cool because we are hearing the same exact things, but at the same time I am getting what the Blazers are thinking and he is getting what the Bulls are thinking.

This thing is far from over

Thanks Ralph.

So in your opinion do you see a deal getting done without us having to give up Noah and Jimmy?

The Bulls IMO won't do Noah and Jimmy for LMA and Portland even knows Noah and Charlotte pick isn't going. The Bulls don't want to do Noah straight up for him, so they aren't going to add anything.

I know he wants Chicago but there are other teams as well. In the end, we never seem to get a deal like this done, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. How many times as Bulls fans have we been burned, way too many.

I see us getting outbid by another team. That is not off of any information, just my personal opinion.

[red222]

TB is legit and overall pretty cool. The Portland bored is lucky to have him. We've been going back and forth the past few days with what we're hearing and it's cool because we are hearing the same exact things, but at the same time I am getting what the Blazers are thinking and he is getting what the Bulls are thinking.

This thing is far from over

Thanks Ralph.

So in your opinion do you see a deal getting done without us having to give up Noah and Jimmy?

The Bulls IMO won't do Noah and Jimmy for LMA and Portland even knows Noah and Charlotte pick isn't going. The Bulls don't want to do Noah straight up for him, so they aren't going to add anything.

I know he wants Chicago but there are other teams as well. In the end, we never seem to get a deal like this done, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. How many times as Bulls fans have we been burned, way too many.

I see us getting outbid by another team. That is not off of any information, just my personal opinion.

A tradition like no other

[RedBulls23]

The Bulls IMO won't do Noah and Jimmy for LMA and Portland even knows Noah and Charlotte pick isn't going. The Bulls don't want to do Noah straight up for him, so they aren't going to add anything.

I know he wants Chicago but there are other teams as well. In the end, we never seem to get a deal like this done, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. How many times as Bulls fans have we been burned, way too many.

I see us getting outbid by another team. That is not off of any information, just my personal opinion.

Sigh...yeah I had a feeling you were going to say that.

Though it's hard not to get caught up in the rumors.

[OldSchoolNoBull]

TB is legit and overall pretty cool. The Portland bored is lucky to have him. We've been going back and forth the past few days with what we're hearing and it's cool because we are hearing the same exact things, but at the same time I am getting what the Blazers are thinking and he is getting what the Bulls are thinking.

This thing is far from over

Thanks Ralph.

So in your opinion do you see a deal getting done without us having to give up Noah and Jimmy?

The Bulls IMO won't do Noah and Jimmy for LMA and Portland even knows Noah and Charlotte pick isn't going. The Bulls don't want to do Noah straight up for him, so they aren't going to add anything.

I know he wants Chicago but there are other teams as well. In the end, we never seem to get a deal like this done, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. How many times as Bulls fans have we been burned, way too many.

I see us getting outbid by another team. That is not off of any information, just my personal opinion.

Yeah, but all those other times, none of those players ever had Chicago at the top of the list.

[red222]

Lets stay positive the flexibility for 2018 is the key

[Polynice4Pippen]

TB is legit and overall pretty cool. The Portland bored is lucky to have him. We've been going back and forth the past few days with what we're hearing and it's cool because we are hearing the same exact things, but at the same time I am getting what the Blazers are thinking and he is getting what the Bulls are thinking.

This thing is far from over

Thanks Ralph.

So in your opinion do you see a deal getting done without us having to give up Noah and Jimmy?

The Bulls IMO won't do Noah and Jimmy for LMA and Portland even knows Noah and Charlotte pick isn't going. The Bulls don't want to do Noah straight up for him, so they aren't going to add anything.

I know he wants Chicago but there are other teams as well. In the end, we never seem to get a deal like this done, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. How many times as Bulls fans have we been burned, way too many.

I see us getting outbid by another team. That is not off of any information, just my personal opinion.

Great stuff as usual, Ralph. I definitely wouldn't include Noah in a trade for Aldridge. But I'd have no problem with Butler being on the board (we'd hopefully just extend Deng) or the Charlotte pick. Maybe the Charlotte pick is the "final offer" so to speak that Gar/Pax are holding onto as long as possible. I agree with them about keeping Noah out of the trade. You roll out a core of Rose/Aldridge/Noah with either Deng or Butler at SF, then find a SG after amnestying Boozer and you can win a title. At least they're continuing to talk.

[ryan44]

Lets stay positive the flexibility for 2018 is the key

Only if flexibility in 2018 doesn't compromise the plan for 2024.

[Jimmy Forums]

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[red222]

Lets stay positive the flexibility for 2018 is the key

Only if flexibility in 2018 doesn't compromise the plan for 2024.

People may say this post may sound like moaning and groaning, as a bulls fan I have no right to complain because we haven't had it as hard as other teams. To those people that have that thought **** you. It has been 15 years since we have won anything and every year we get sold a bill of goods that they are trying to win a title. The words character, teamwork, more than enough to quote Mr. Thibs, and flexibility are said ad nauseam yet we can never seem to get over the hump. By the time we actually find the right deal our window will have closed either due to Rose leaving or the competition in both conferences being significantly better. So I ask when will their words match their actions???

The perfect comparison to this front office is a guy that says they can fight the best fighter in their weight class but chickens out like a bitch. They write checks their ass can't cash.


Flexibility watch 2018

/End Rant

[Saphir]

The Bulls IMO won't do Noah and Jimmy for LMA and Portland even knows Noah and Charlotte pick isn't going. The Bulls don't want to do Noah straight up for him, so they aren't going to add anything.

I know he wants Chicago but there are other teams as well. In the end, we never seem to get a deal like this done, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. How many times as Bulls fans have we been burned, way too many.

I see us getting outbid by another team. That is not off of any information, just my personal opinion.

As mentioned before, Noah for Aldridge is essentially a lateral move. In a vacuum, I wouldn't do it. Primarily because a Boozer/Aldridge frontcourt is a complete disaster waiting to happen.

If you're going to trade Noah, you have to find a way to trade Boozer for a solid frontcourt partner for Aldridge. And then you have to wonder if its any better than Boozer/Noah, which is trickier than you may think.

[pylb]

Aldridge wants to play PF next to a Center so he won't be playing next to Carlos anyway.

[OldSchoolNoBull]

Yeah, I don't think the FO has any intention of LMA and Boozer playing together. If we get LMA, Boozer is either amnestied or traded.